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from 3 series to 4 series is it really worth it ?

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Why not get the 13700k or 7xxxX3D first and see how that works with a 3080. If you find it's not a massive difference then borrow or steal from some of rich folks here and get the 4090 too. 

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Just now, St Mawgan said:

Why not get the 13700k or 7xxxX3D first and see how that works with a 3080. If you find it's not a massive difference then borrow or steal from some of rich folks here and get the 4090 too. 

sounds like a plan

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12 minutes ago, odourboy said:

Are you happy with the performance of your current GPU? That's your answer. 

yes basically 

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I already pull the trigger a few days ago and bought a MSI 4090 Suprim X... the 3080ti is not bad (around 60 fps with light planes), but my tv/monitor have a refresh of 120hz, and I want those 120 fps.... LOL... I have to justify somehow my new gpu...

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17 minutes ago, Bob Scott said:

It's a nice to have, not a must-have, but it really is NICE to have...sorta like a Corvette, a set of Ping clubs, or a Ski Nautique 200 are all nice to have if you are into cars, golf, or boats and can comfortably afford it.

That's been my take it's for me essentially a luxury solution.  I'm satisfied completely w/ performance now, and generally avoid upgrades but every 4-5y or so buying best in class at the time and holding to get lots of use out of it, then will retire it to another use and right now I don't need that the prior downgrade still works.  I see others aiming for fully loading airports with a full complement of static and dynamic traffic but I actually prefer a less crowded environment, so AI traffic more me is more limited and seems to me just right.  

But for sure 4090's brute force solution to frame rate increase makes perfect since and in some sense it's a bit amazing it's taken this long to get to the idea of hardware based frame generation as a solution.   I wonder if it's more of a firmware solution or did the architecture change substantially?   Anyway, great stuff if you want it or need it.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

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13 minutes ago, sonny147 said:

my car an AUDI not a corvette

you mean AUDI as in Quattro? real, not fake frames:

 

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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😃

3 minutes ago, Dexter1979 said:

I already pull the trigger a few days ago and bought a MSI 4090 Suprim X... the 3080ti is not bad (around 60 fps with light planes), but my tv/monitor have a refresh of 120hz, and I want those 120 fps.... LOL... I have to justify somehow my new gpu...

18 minutes ago, odourboy said:

Are you happy with the performance of your current GPU? That's your answer. 

yes basically 

ROG Crossair Hero X670e , 9900X, TUF 4090 , X4 NVME's. OS  2TB 980 Pro , MSFS  2TB WD Black , Kington Fury 64GB ram ( 6000) Corsair RM1000 PSU, Artic Freezer iii 360 AIO  . Phanteks P600s Case ,TCL QM8B 50" 120 Hz  TV,second 24 inch screen for charts you tube etc, and 11" touch screen for the EFB. Warthog Stick and TCA Captains throttle ( full pack)  Velocity 1 Rudder Pedals , extreme3D for the Tiller,Streamdeck XL x2 / Streamdeck +/Streamdeck mini because i like pressing buttons 

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wished I never had asked now LOL ! , wallet time  

this hobby costs more than the family ( well almost )

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9 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

Why not get the 13700k or 7xxxX3D first

because that's not the highest fps approach. the other way around makes more sense.

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

As an owner of an RTX 4090, my advice is a bit disingenuous.  😉

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Just now, sonny147 said:

wished I never had asked now LOL !

you knew it, and you want it.

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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7 minutes ago, turbomax said:

you knew it, and you want it.

you know me so well !, maybe ship or train sim lol

ROG Crossair Hero X670e , 9900X, TUF 4090 , X4 NVME's. OS  2TB 980 Pro , MSFS  2TB WD Black , Kington Fury 64GB ram ( 6000) Corsair RM1000 PSU, Artic Freezer iii 360 AIO  . Phanteks P600s Case ,TCL QM8B 50" 120 Hz  TV,second 24 inch screen for charts you tube etc, and 11" touch screen for the EFB. Warthog Stick and TCA Captains throttle ( full pack)  Velocity 1 Rudder Pedals , extreme3D for the Tiller,Streamdeck XL x2 / Streamdeck +/Streamdeck mini because i like pressing buttons 

16 minutes ago, sonny147 said:

if I don't see see substantial gains i mean it 

if you don't see x2 fps then something is wrong with your card or you didn't activate FrameGeneration. twice the fps increase always, if you like it or not. just watch ObsidianAnt's video, a youtube says more than 1.000 posts.

"Are you happy with the performance of your current GPU?"

yes, but ...

now I am even happier.

the question to ask: did any 4090 owner return his 4090? I did, but only to get another one at 200 $ less. 😊

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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well i hope 3080 12 gb prices on ebay are holding up then !

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ObsidianAnt's, he does space ships doesnt he in VR ?

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