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PMDG m737 Reverse thrust

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3 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Just tried your suggestion, and it works perfectly in the B 737. I can now vary the amount of reverse thrust while holding the button down... Thanks.  

I just changed from toggle to hold and it does work much better.

Now, it works the same in both the 320 and the 737s.

Wish I had seen this sooner.

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7 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Just tried your suggestion, and it works perfectly in the B 737. I can now vary the amount of reverse thrust while holding the button down... Thanks.  

This is a case of me giving the wrong description, but the process works anyway! Lucky is always better than good.

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7 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Just tried your suggestion, and it works perfectly in the B 737. I can now vary the amount of reverse thrust while holding the button down... Thanks.  

This is a case of me giving the wrong description, but the process works anyway! Lucky is always better than good.

John Wiesenfeld KPBI | FAA PPL/SEL/IFR in a galaxy long ago and far away | VATSIM PILOT P2

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On 2/12/2023 at 11:41 AM, jrw4 said:

n the Boeing, it's necessary to pull up on the reverse thrust lever and then move the throttles forward,

ok   but  the  link  i  gave  above  your  post  the  pilots  didn't  push  the  throttles  fwd  at all,  all  they  did  was  to  use  max  reverse  thrust

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Also good to mention that currently in MSFS there is barely any use for reverse thrust anyway. The sim does not simulate wet and other factors that might affect braking action. 

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3 hours ago, roi1862 said:

Also good to mention that currently in MSFS there is barely any use for reverse thrust anyway. The sim does not simulate wet and other factors that might affect braking action. 

Short runway or long landing. 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Short runway or long landing. 

Almost no affect. I can stop the plane in pouring rain using brakes(not even full pressure) alone in about 3000 ft of runway. Reverse wont affect it at all. Try yourself. 

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4 hours ago, pete_auau said:

ok   but  the  link  i  gave  above  your  post  the  pilots  didn't  push  the  throttles  fwd  at all,  all  they  did  was  to  use  max  reverse  thrust

Have a look at the figure in the link I posted in response to your earlier post. It seems to show how the reserve levers controls the reverse thrust. To any IRL Boeing pilots: HELP!!!

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1 hour ago, jrw4 said:

Have a look at the figure in the link I posted in response to your earlier post. It seems to show how the reserve levers controls the reverse thrust. To any IRL Boeing pilots: HELP!!!

The reverse levers control the amount of reverse thrust, the more they are pulled back, the more reverse you get. 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, roi1862 said:

Almost no affect. I can stop the plane in pouring rain using brakes(not even full pressure) alone in about 3000 ft of runway. Reverse wont affect it at all. Try yourself. 

I don't think you are correct, but I am flying the 737 this morning, so I am not going to use any brakes, and see if I can stop the aircraft with just reverse thrust. I am guessing that I can. 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I don't think you are correct, but I am flying the 737 this morning, so I am not going to use any brakes, and see if I can stop the aircraft with just reverse thrust. I am guessing that I can. 

Which will be incorrect behavior as well. According to landing distance calculator, reverse thrust has close to 0 effect on dry runways. It has most effect on wet/icy runways. You can also check it on your Fenix EFB.

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6 minutes ago, roi1862 said:

Which will be incorrect behavior as well. According to landing distance calculator, reverse thrust has close to 0 effect on dry runways. It has most effect on wet/icy runways. You can also check it on your Fenix EFB.

Well if you are correct, using no brakes and just reverse thrust, I should go right off the end of the runway.  We will see in a few minutes. 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

Well if you are correct, using no brakes and just reverse thrust, I should go right off the end of the runway.  We will see in a few minutes. 

Yes. I am not an airliner pilot or a flight engineer but from reading articles about it, reverse thrust is most effective on wet runway and higher speeds. it looses it effectiveness pretty quick below 100kt

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Darn, first CTD in a year and a half, on approach to KBOS.....

 

 

 

16 minutes ago, roi1862 said:

Yes. I am not an airliner pilot or a flight engineer but from reading articles about it, reverse thrust is most effective on wet runway and higher speeds. it looses it effectiveness pretty quick below 100kt

This is correct. Reverse thrust has only limited braking effect itself (a couple of 100 feet less at maximum), what really matters is its pushing down effect which pushes the wheels on the ground and therefore improves traction on wet/icy runways - and therefore significantly improves the effect of the wheel brakes in these conditions.
It is also correct that this has basically no effect in MSFS, because there are no wet/icy runway conditions, runways are only visually wet.

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