5 hours ago, pete_auau said:

monthly for unlimited its 9.05,  yearly  its 81.64  so its cheaper if  you  go the yearly option alot  cheaper  than  600   that was  mentioned   previously so thats 2  less  cartons  of  beer i can buy per  year 🙂

I pay 10.77 € monthly. 😞

8 hours ago, stratone said:

2. In regard to Aivlasoft - might be you miss a point in the UI to display the flightpath with SID/STAR ?

I really don't know what's wrong.  I double-checked AIRAC cycle is the same for starters and as you suggested rebuilt the dbase.  When the SB import proceeds in Aivla it does not include the SID/STAR, let alone does not display it on the flight path. To make matters worse if I choose the airport runway, up displays available procedures but the ones used by SB for departure and arrivals are MISSING!  I don't know what to make of it maybe Bob has some insights.

At this juncture TBH I see no role for using charts/plates it just doesn't fit for how I use the sim, plus I don't know what to make of Aivlasoft.  LNM provides most everything Aivlasoft adds w/ really no overhead, no need for server running, etc.

Thanks all for your insights it turns out mainly because I do what I do, fly mostly scripted routes all of this information is present elsewhere, outside of charts:  weather, route overview, winds, and even elevation data which is good enough for scripted use.

I'll wait to see if Bob has insights (i.e., if his imports show SID/STAR on the flight path and if not will uninstall Aivlasoft)

Charts have always confused the Eff out of me.

I've got the Navigraph Ultimate subscription, but I tend to use the App as a moving map. I use Sim Brief when I have to, (PMDG and Fenix), but use the MS flight planner whenever I can get away with it. I used to take my flight simming far more "seriously" in the past, but nowadays I just like to get in the air as soon as possible and watch the scenery and clouds pass by. 🙂

Well, I just cancelled my Navigraph Ultimate subscription. The charts are nice and fun and they add some realism but I just don't need them. After participating in this discussion I came to realize that I hardly use the charts. Specially since I am more into aircraft with 'glass' now. And I never flew planes without glass that would require the use of charts anyway. So I flew a week without starting up Navigraph Charts and I didn't miss it AT ALL. So for me flying without them is fine. Of course it's quite personal and subjective.

I even flew without the Navigraph data for a while and noticed that the SimBrief plans didn't give my any problems in MSFS )with NavBlue data)... In the end, because I still have two months worth of data, I reinstalled the Navigraph data but I am still in doubt if I will even take a Navigraph navdata only subscription... In the past (with other sims) you HAD to have something like addon navdata but since MSFS gets updated navadate quite frequently it's not as mandatory.

I think that once my sub ends I will keep the latest AIRAC installed and active and then I will see how well that goes. I don't really need to be current all the time. Afaik I can keep on using that AIRAC on SimBrief too. And then I will see if I will get into 'problems' at a certain moment or not. No need to spend money every month or year for stuff I don't really need...!