March 25, 20233 yr Hello, I’m having an issue today that I haven’t seen before. Enabling any AI traffic (AIG or FSLTL) causes my FPS to nosedive. I’m currently enroute in the MD-88, not really near any large cities, and with no AI traffic I have a about 35 fps (without frame generation) and with AI traffic I have 5-7fps. I’ve completed other flights in SU12 without this issue. Any ideas? Obviously AI traffic takes a bit of resources but I’ve never seen anything this drastic. Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
March 25, 20233 yr Happening to me as well ... Was about to post in the AIG thread because i just updated their models but i guess its not them ? I dont know but frankly the sim is all of a sudden unplayable. Never had this issue before ever. I dont have FSLTL installed my only install is AIG and i ran their model update this morning. I use the TC and not online traffic. Edited March 25, 20233 yr by Maxis AMD Ryzen 9800X3D/ Asus ROG Strix B650E F Gaming WiFi / Asrock Taichi 9070XT / 32GB G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo DDR5 6000 / 2x ADATA XPG 8200 Pro NVME / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 / Seasonic Vertex 1000w PSU / Lian Li LanCool II Mesh Performance / Asus VG34VQL3A / Topping E70 Velvet DAC & L70 Amp /Sennheiser HD660s2 Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke + TCA Sidestick + TFRP Rudders
March 25, 20233 yr Not having this problem but something has apparently changed. I am operating from Nassau today and I see many more airliners taking off and landing than usual. I don’t have any addon, just the default traffic. Nice. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
March 25, 20233 yr Author Thanks, yeah I ran the model update this morning too, that would be the only thing that has changed since my last issue free flight. Does FSLTL use AIG models as fallback or anything? Maybe that’s the connection? I didn’t do a restart after updating AIG so I’ll try that after my current flight and see if that helps. Edited March 25, 20233 yr by regis9 Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
March 25, 20233 yr 10 minutes ago, regis9 said: Thanks, yeah I ran the model update this morning too, that would be the only thing that has changed since my last issue free flight. Does FSLTL use AIG models as fallback or anything? Maybe that’s the connection? I didn’t do a restart after updating AIG so I’ll try that after my current flight and see if that helps. If you have AIG installed in the community folder, FSLTL will automaticlaly use them as fallback. However the new AIG models only released a couple of hours ago and will only be installed if you manually run verify setup, so unless you did that I don't believe it's AIG the cause. The maddog had two updates yesterday, did you download them? I'd go down that route. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
March 25, 20233 yr 41 minutes ago, Maxis said: Happening to me as well ... Was about to post in the AIG thread because i just updated their models but i guess its not them ? I dont know but frankly the sim is all of a sudden unplayable. Never had this issue before ever. I dont have FSLTL installed my only install is AIG and i ran their model update this morning. I use the TC and not online traffic. There's a bug with contrails from the new AIG models, according to Discord. This can kill your FPS. They are working on a hotfix and apparently already found the faulty contrail file. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
March 25, 20233 yr 17 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said: There's a bug with contrails from the new AIG models, according to Discord. This can kill your FPS. They are working on a hotfix and apparently already found the faulty contrail file. it is not a bug, it just seems that the FPS impact is havier on some systems compared to others......
March 25, 20233 yr 9 minutes ago, Kaiii3 said: it is not a bug, it just seems that the FPS impact is havier on some systems compared to others...... Are contrails for AI planes really worth any FPS impact? Even 10% is a huge impact for a contrail and probably no one would find that a good trade-off. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
March 25, 20233 yr 36 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said: Are contrails for AI planes really worth any FPS impact? there are many users that have requested contrails....
March 25, 20233 yr Author 1 hour ago, Fiorentoni said: If you have AIG installed in the community folder, FSLTL will automaticlaly use them as fallback. However the new AIG models only released a couple of hours ago and will only be installed if you manually run verify setup, so unless you did that I don't believe it's AIG the cause. The maddog had two updates yesterday, did you download them? I'd go down that route. Thanks, I did run verify setup so I'd have the new models. I'll try updating the Maddog (not sure of the FPS connection between that and AI traffic but weirder things have happened), restart, and test with a few aircraft to see what I can figure out. Good thing it's Saturday 🙂 Dave Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU
March 25, 20233 yr I updated the AIG models earlier today, and now my FPS are tanked as well, using them with PSXT and Real Traffic. If I remove them from the Community folder, FPS is back up to normal. Any idea how long this hotfix will take to roll out?
March 25, 20233 yr 18 minutes ago, mikeklimek said: I updated the AIG models earlier today, and now my FPS are tanked as well, using them with PSXT and Real Traffic. If I remove them from the Community folder, FPS is back up to normal. Any idea how long this hotfix will take to roll out? tomorrow 😉
March 25, 20233 yr Yes, from 32 to 10 at KLAX with PSXT/RT combo 9950X3D, X870E ROG CROSSHAIR HERO, Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000, ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16GB, 9100 PRO 4TB Samsung ,990 PRO 4TB Samsung, AX1600i 1600 Watt 80 Plus Titanium ATX, ASUS 360 ARGB EXTREME 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling Kit.
March 25, 20233 yr Just now, G-YMML1 said: Yes, from 32 to 10 at KLAX with PSXT/RT combo 30FPS for me at LAX while tesing.... wonder why it is so different at each system
March 25, 20233 yr 7 minutes ago, Kaiii3 said: 30FPS for me at LAX while tesing.... wonder why it is so different at each system IniBuilds KLAX 9950X3D, X870E ROG CROSSHAIR HERO, Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000, ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16GB, 9100 PRO 4TB Samsung ,990 PRO 4TB Samsung, AX1600i 1600 Watt 80 Plus Titanium ATX, ASUS 360 ARGB EXTREME 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling Kit.
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