quick q: any idead why these guys turn off, and how to turn them back on?

 

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Update: I think the battery had died? it’s showing 0 amps. Would that cause those instruments to fail? If so, why isn’t the battery charging, both alternators are on and working (as you can see the other instruments are on). Very strange.

Add me as another one interested to know.

I've seen this occur but I've had the 414 for only 3 or 4 days and haven't learned enough to say why they go blank, but I don't think it's related to battery showing 0 amps. It appears the battery will show 0 amps (load is on ALT's) IF an engine is running, ALT switch is on for the operating engine with high enough rpm for ALT to generate sufficient current. In your image certainly engine speed is such that ALT's are generating sufficient current to operate all systems.

There’s a couple recently updates for C-414:

Current version 4.1.2 

24 minutes ago, somiller said:

Add me as another one interested to know.

I've seen this occur but I've had the 414 for only 3 or 4 days and haven't learned enough to say why they go blank, but I don't think it's related to battery showing 0 amps. It appears the battery will show 0 amps (load is on ALT's) IF an engine is running, ALT switch is on for the operating engine with high enough rpm for ALT to generate sufficient current. In your image certainly engine speed is such that ALT's are generating sufficient current to operate all systems.

good to know. however i ran a test and flipped both alternators off (with battery switch still on) and all of the instruments died then. flipping the battery on or off had no effect. so I think it's tied in with a broader electrical system issue

Update: also the flaps' electrical system isn't working. having to land flaps up

 

Edited April 17, 20233 yr by dresoccer4

3 minutes ago, polosim said:

There’s a couple recently updates for C-414:

Current version 4.1.2 

i'm flying on a fresh install i downloaded yesterday

1 hour ago, dresoccer4 said:

fresh install i downloaded yesterday

I, see… Hmmm .. a couple of quick ideas:

1- Did you check all circuit breaker are IN ? They’re reworked electrical system including CB in recent hotfix.

2- Do you have installed freeware Heavy-Division/B78XH? Before there was a conflict between these two add on, which was supposedly already resolved. But you never know.

1 minute ago, polosim said:

I, see… Hmmm .. a couple of quick ideas:

1- Did you check all circuit breaker are IN ? They’re reworked electrical system including CB in recent hotfix.

2- Do you have installed freeware Heavy-Division/B78XH? Before there was a conflict between these two add on, which was supposedly already resolved. But you never know.

1) negative did NOT check circuit breakers, didn't know they were modeled. i'll check next flight if this happens again

2) negative, no other addons

2 minutes ago, dresoccer4 said:

1) negative did NOT check circuit breakers, didn't know they were modeled. i'll check next flight if this happens again

2) negative, no other addons

A C414 update called 4.1.3 Beta Hotfix will be available from the FSW store in about 30 min, and from SimMarket probably tomorrow. This has fixed some electrical issues, such as for the clock. Also, the update includes some new controls binding info such as for the master battery and the avionics switches. 

Al

12 minutes ago, ark said:

This has fixed some electrical issues, such as for the clock. Also, the update includes some new controls binding info such as for the master battery and the avionics switches.

Mystery resolved, thanks for head’s up. 🙂

 

On 4/17/2023 at 11:48 AM, dresoccer4 said:

Would that cause those instruments to fail? If so, why isn’t the battery charging, both alternators are on and working

Hotfix 4.1.3 is out, but I think your issues were more related to the changes made in hotfix 4.1. 2, specifically those related to CB's.

 

Changelog:

v4.1.3
- New hardware binding code. See Hardware Binding.XML
- Clock was fixed to work with the updated battery logic
v4.1.2:
- The sound.xml is now updated to work with the new electrical system and so the electrical gyro will not play with all systems off
- The battery and Avionics switches are now circuit bus breaker switches and they not only pull the breaker but the variable so this way all of our logic continues to work
- Checklist updated for the reason of update #2 but also we noticed some code no longer worked correctly after so many sim versions and we updated the code to fix those errors as well
- The TDS GTN750's power state is now fixed based on the update #2 in our list

Did turn coordinator get treatment as well?

2 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

Did turn coordinator get treatment as well?

By turn coordinator above I assume you are referring to the action of the ball in indicating a slip or skid.  Below is a copy of my response to you in another recent thread in which you raised this issue. I guess you didn't see my post since you didn't respond. https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/632988-c414aw-chancellor-update-410/page/5/#comments  BTW, I'm just a FSW volunteer beta tester, but would like to see if something could be done to improve the C414 in this regard. If there is a GA plane in the sim in which the ball action is realistic, l'd like to take a look at the relevant code if possible.

Al

The C414 uses default sim code (variables) for the ball action. FSW has looked into this but there does not seem much can be done to improve things. I looked at the C172 classic and the DA-40, and the ball in those aircraft hardly moves when you make a turn without using the rudder. I would like to investigate a bit more. In which sim aircraft have you found the ball action to be good and what you would call reasonably realistic?

Edited April 19, 20233 yr by ark

50 minutes ago, ark said:

By turn coordinator above I assume you are referring to the action of the ball in indicating a slip or skid.  Below is a copy of my response to you in another recent thread in which you raised this issue. I guess you didn't see my post since you didn't respond. https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/632988-c414aw-chancellor-update-410/page/5/#comments  BTW, I'm just a FSW volunteer beta tester, but would like to see if something could be done to improve the C414 in this regard. If there is a GA plane in the sim in which the ball action is realistic, l'd like to take a look at the relevant code if possible.

Al

The C414 uses default sim code (variables) for the ball action. FSW has looked into this but there does not seem much can be done to improve things. I looked at the C172 classic and the DA-40, and the ball in those aircraft hardly moves when you make a turn without using the rudder. I would like to investigate a bit more. In which sim aircraft have you found the ball action to be good and what you would call reasonably realistic?

Thanks ! It's really odd because couple versions before it was working perfectly fine! Basically I understand it's SU12 bug?

On 4/19/2023 at 6:52 AM, sd_flyer said:

I understand it's SU12 bug?

So this happens on ALL MSFS aircraft? It may be just me and sd_flyer that only see this on the 414. First time I've seen this on any aircraft that I've used...So far.

1 minute ago, Ron Attwood said:

So this happens on ALL MSFS aircraft? It may be just me and sd_flyer that only see this on the 414. First time I've seen this on any aircraft that I've used...So far.

I don't see it in other aircraft either. I asked on discord and developer said that he didn't change TC code. So assumption is it's SU12 issue. 

P.S. I parked 414 until they fix issue.