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I wonder why the LevelD forum is so secret?

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You can't even read about what is going on. Are they trying to hide the problems with their product? Seems like it.

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Psst.... over here..I am willing to spy for you. :) Do you have a specific question or concern?The overall assessment of the LevelD aircraft is consistently the number 1 or 2 commercial jet in the history of the FS flight simulator franchise. It is a Flight One wrapper meaning you can buy the airplane, join the forum, get all the facts you need and return it; all in less than 30 days. :)Bob..

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It's to encourage people to buy their product and not use a pirate version.I purchased the Level D 767 for FSX and I can say that I am very happy with it and that I have experienced no problems! It's a complex aircraft so your FPS will drop slightly. I run without autogen or AI traffic and get 20 to 30 fps on my 2 yr old AMD3500. Very happy!It's a mature product and the best airliner sim available for FSX. The only thing that would come close to the Level D 767 is the PMDG 747 X but thats not available for FSX yet.

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It's just the developers way of not providing any support to pirates. They have nothing to hide. The aircraft is a winner.If there were outstanding issues not being actively addressed by Level-D, you would think those issues would be posted on these and other forums. When you buy the aircraft, you don't sign an NDA.Nothing clandestine or mysterious over there other than trying to protect their investment.Regards,Jim Karn

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They're doing it right, like Eaglesoft, and lock their forums to paying customers to prevent some of the pointless fanboi/hater threads.Prime example and victim is FeelThere where the devs have long given up making sense and coping with the volume of irrelevant posts and have shut down the forums altogether (or made it read-only).Pat

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If there were problems with the plane you would be hearing about it. Do you see ANY posts about the 767 here? How about for some of the other vendors?People just buy it and fly it. And if they have a question, they go to the forum. Simple as that. .Thomas[a href=http://www.flyingscool.com] http://www.flyingscool.com/images/Signature.jpg [/a]I like using VC's :-)N15802 KASH '73 Piper Cherokee Challenger 180

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Let me start by saying I have the highest regard for LevelD and their software. Excellent quality. I flew the 767 PIC in both FS2000 and 2002. I had fully intended to fly the new 767 in FS9- until I discovered no "read only" access to their forum. Perhaps my style is different- I like to research and have a good understanding of a complex product before purchase. Studying the manual and following the Q's & A's in the forum is an important part of simming for me. I like to be familiar with & able to fly the bird decently when it comes out of the box. Forum give and take is a great way to learn the quirks/problems and uniqueness of both the airplane, the software and also the interface with one's computer. I'm happy to let others ask the questions but I do want to hear the answers! So- LevelD, I've sounded off- you missed me as a customer for this round. Let me READ the forums for a few months on the next round and I'll be back!!Alex Reid CYYJ

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>How did pirates get into this discussion?I think some people mentioned pirates as a possible reason why Level D only allow registered users access to their forum. Whether that is right or wrong, I don't know, but I'm sure nobody was doing anything else than trying to answer the original poster's question.Best regards!

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Same here, I won't buy any product I can't research first, especially with the new multiplayer/shared cockpit function in FSX. So far the majority of planes do not work, and I am not willing to spend my money to take a chance that a plane will work.I can understand their paranoia about 'pirates', but from where I sit, closing forums to all but paying customers is a good way to lose customers, not increase them. Bad marketing decision from where I sit, my money goes elsewhere.

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It's nice to read about a product in a support forum before purchasing. It definitely shows how good the product is and how good the support is. Makes perfect sense.

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If you invest some time to use the SEARCH function in the forums here as well as clicking on "Review" > "Aircraft Review" in here or simply by going to google.com and searching for "Level-D review" you will find dozens of independent review and customer comment and will soon find out that the Level-D 767 is one of the finest offerings in flight simulation, but I guess that is a too complex task for someone trying to purchase and fly a highly-detailed and complex airliner./irony off ;)It is no different than looking at the offical Level-D forums where the forums are actually used to provide technical support and are not flooded by countless requests for recommendations. Sad, but true.*shrug*Pat

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Personally I put very little stock in reviews, as most I have read are either bias or ignorant. My decisions are based on user feedback and the problems they have found, not someone using a free version and pushing a product.

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A simple search of the subject line of the forums in here with "Level-D" reveals 105 topics with user feedback.Took me 30 seconds.

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The 'General Discussion' forum is avaialble to all. The tech support forums are for licesnsed buyers only.If you have a general question, feel free to ask there. Don't see any problem with that myself......oh and yes, the 767 is superb.

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Bobp has already said that you *can* in fact read the forums - one is open, and the rest you can see for 30 days with Flight1's money-back guarantee.It's maybe interesting that a number of us have taken the time to say "buy" when we have no connection with LDS - you may decide that our commitment to the addon should encourage you at least to demo it, given the money-back deal.And if not... then to be honest, I'd say it's you that missed out, this round - and I think 99% of other 767-ers would agree.There are a couple of issues experienced by a minority of users, evident from the forums, to be fair. Some panel initialisation problems etc. I think it would be fair to say that accessing the forums wouldn't remotely help decide whether you'd get these problems on your system, but the devs are helping out regularly there. And again, the money-back deal is there if there's an issue.

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Nothing comes close.Period.I use FSX and Vista.The forum support is excellent.I bought the plane relying from info I got elsewhere-other than the registered member forums and have had no regrets.Jay

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See BobP's comment above - the thing is sold in a Flight 1 wrapper with a 30 day love it or get your money back guarantee... How can you lose?DJ

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Here on AVSIM they have reviewed the Level-D.The most recent review is now on "todays Headlines". Click on the "reset" at the top of the forum page to see it.Still, if you have a question(s) about the Level-D you could post it here.I have flown it for a long time now (FS9/FSX versions). I also fly the DreamFleet Baron (I asked about it first on this forum), Flight1's 727. I enjoy them all.But, the LD763 is the best state of the art IMO.LD has an outstanding forum for technical support, downloads etc and if you purchase the FS9 version I believe the FX upgrade is very reasonable .. if the deal is still on .. you would have to check.You can ask general questions on the General forum at LD. No waiting a week for an answer either.Ask them about a return policy (Flight1) if you do not like it!So far I have never returned a Flight1 product.So, I hope you will get the LD763 ... you'll love the ride!> Let me start by saying I have the highest regard for LevelD>and their software. Excellent quality. I flew the 767 PIC in>both FS2000 and 2002. I had fully intended to fly the new 767>in FS9- until I discovered no "read only" access to their>forum. > Perhaps my style is different- I like to research and have a>good understanding of a complex product before purchase.>Studying the manual and following the Q's & A's in the forum>is an important part of simming for me. I like to be familiar>with & able to fly the bird decently when it comes out of the>box. > Forum give and take is a great way to learn the>quirks/problems and uniqueness of both the airplane, the>software and also the interface with one's computer. I'm happy>to let others ask the questions but I do want to hear the>answers!> So- LevelD, I've sounded off- you missed me as a customer for>this round. Let me READ the forums for a few months on the>next round and I'll be back!!>Alex Reid CYYJ

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30 day no questions asked money back gurantee should be enough to satisfy most people.You buy it, try it. And if you don't like it, delete it and get your money back. :)

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McCrash,Go to Level-D forum (General tab) and ask them your pre-purchase questions. You do not have to register there to get some answers.AVSIM reviews = 5 stars for Level-D!Or, post a some specific questions here.Do you have TrackIR for use with the Level-D's virtual cockpit?

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I agree, it does not take very much time or effort on the internet to come to the conclusion that Level-D and their products are some of the most highly thought of and respected for FS9 and FSX.There are extraordinarily few products that meet or exceed the overall level of quality, detail and complexity integrated into a Level-D product.Ron

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>You can't even read about what is going on. Are they trying>to hide the problems with their product? Seems like it.It's plain and simple the best "add-on" ever released for FS9 and FSX at this point in time...Nothing comes even close except the Maddog 2006 (which goes even further system wise but lacking a VC) and PMDG 747 (close behind those two but a lousy customer attitude and they are slowwww :-lol )As for FSX we have two complex aircraft Level-D 767 and Maddog 2006 regarding jetsCheers, Andr

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