Request: Don't bash devs who are making products for v6

[Skywolf 992]

Hey guys and gals,

I am very disappointed at few negatoilets who are bashing @Damian Clark and even Chaseplane for making products for P3Dv6.  Honest criticism is fine and good, but bashing people on their prices is dumb.  First of all, if you are bashing someone on pricing, then chances are that you have never been an entrepreneur, or even owned a company.  I have a SMB, and I get agitated when someone ask about medical fees.  The time and resources that these guys have spent is a lot, on top they have to come in here and get bashed up on few dollars.  What you pay gets you Support.  You are paying for support also.  

If you can't afford few dollars of software, then you should look at all other sims, we have X-plane, MSFS2020, FSX, Aerowinx, Aerofly2, mobile etc.  There are other hobbies you know (all of them are expensive than flightsim, lol...just go on dates, that gets expensive)

I am grateful that few devs are making a product for v6 and look forward to their success and innovation.

For all the devs just F$$$ the negatoilets.

I am losing interest coming on Avsim due to numerous posts by negatoilets; and Tom did a lot to make this website a key resource to flight simulation industry.

Be kind, grateful and have fun.

 

Edited July 19, 2023 by Skywolf

[YukonPete 590]

Agree, It's like the same people who think they are entitled to free upgrades of an add-on for the next version of a simulator forever!

[CW46 101]

The only reason I would even consider V6 is because these guys have made Chaseplane and Active Sky available. If it means purchasing again so be it, every one has to make a living and the products in my view are worth it. PS - I not complaining about my Navigraph subscription either, if that keeps the developers in business and supporting the different sims then that is good for everyone.

Edited July 20, 2023 by CW46
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[newtie 537]

1 hour ago, Skywolf said:

Hey guys and gals,

I am very disappointed at few negatoilets who are bashing @Damian Clark and even Chaseplane for making products for P3Dv6.  Honest criticism is fine and good, but bashing people on their prices is dumb.  First of all, if you are bashing someone on pricing, then chances are that you have never been an entrepreneur, or even owned a company.  I have a SMB, and I get agitated when someone ask about medical fees.  The time and resources that these guys have spent is a lot, on top they have to come in here and get bashed up on few dollars.  What you pay gets you Support.  You are paying for support also.  

If you can't afford few dollars of software, then you should look at all other sims, we have X-plane, MSFS2020, FSX, Aerowinx, Aerofly2, mobile etc.  There are other hobbies you know (all of them are expensive than flightsim, lol...just go on dates, that gets expensive)

I am grateful that few devs are making a product for v6 and look forward to their success and innovation.

For all the devs just F$$$ the negatoilets.

I am losing interest coming on Avsim due to numerous posts by negatoilets; and Tom did a lot to make this website a key resource to flight simulation industry.

Be kind, grateful and have fun.

 

Agreed. Not sure what the problem is regarding the CP price. It’s a half tank of gas in my four cylinder truck, or, eight small bags of Frito Lay Scoops chips. Both of which are consumed quickly. CP lasts much longer.

[aguiar 22]

15 hours ago, Skywolf said:

Hey guys and gals,

I am very disappointed at few negatoilets who are bashing @Damian Clark and even Chaseplane for making products for P3Dv6.  Honest criticism is fine and good, but bashing people on their prices is dumb.  First of all, if you are bashing someone on pricing, then chances are that you have never been an entrepreneur, or even owned a company.  I have a SMB, and I get agitated when someone ask about medical fees.  The time and resources that these guys have spent is a lot, on top they have to come in here and get bashed up on few dollars.  What you pay gets you Support.  You are paying for support also.  

If you can't afford few dollars of software, then you should look at all other sims, we have X-plane, MSFS2020, FSX, Aerowinx, Aerofly2, mobile etc.  There are other hobbies you know (all of them are expensive than flightsim, lol...just go on dates, that gets expensive)

I am grateful that few devs are making a product for v6 and look forward to their success and innovation.

For all the devs just F$$$ the negatoilets.

I am losing interest coming on Avsim due to numerous posts by negatoilets; and Tom did a lot to make this website a key resource to flight simulation industry.

Be kind, grateful and have fun.

 

Agreed. I'm grategul that they spend their time developing add ons we can use

[DWadsworth 13]

Agreed to all the above.  One thing to keep in mind is that many of these vendors have provided free updates for years.  I see no reason for them not to charge a reasonable (in my mind) price at this time.  

[carlanthony24 577]

Maybe same people who moaned they were not going to move products to V6 and would instead focus on MSFS

[dave2013 1,138]

21 hours ago, Skywolf said:

I am very disappointed at few negatoilets who are bashing

What is a "negatoilet?  Never heard this bizarre term. I hope that it is not an insult.  You portray yourself as a virtuous and kind person, so I simply cannot believe that you would insult others who may not agree with your views.

Dave

 

Edited July 20, 2023 by dave2013

[Skywolf 992]

1 minute ago, dave2013 said:

What is a "negatoilet?  Never heard this bizarre term. I hope that it is not an insult.  You portray yourself as a virtuous and kind person, so I simply cannot believe that you would insult others who may not agree with your views.

Dave

 

Negative attitude person 

Urban Dictionary: negatoilets

Some of these negative posters are thrashing devs and pushing the envelope.  As an entrepreneur, I was disappointed by this, excessive negative action isn't healthy for anyone. You can see even Hifi's Damian posting his last post etc (I hope he comes back to avsim).

Constructive feedback is good but going on and on on a negative tangent just makes the other person leave.

Avsim used to be so positive, what gives these days.  It is this website which really got me into the hobby.  We have lot of great people on here who are helpful, I don't want them to leave in disgust/disappointment. 

  

 

[Bob Scott 7,724]

OK, this has gone far enough.  Name-calling, even in a general sense (e.g. negatoilets) is not something we condone here.  So we'll close this one now.