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Sim Skunk Works SIAI 260 SF Incoming

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So, it looks ok. Just not amazing. Ah well. 

 

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  • I would buy it but A2A PA24 spoiled it

  • Ron Attwood
    Ron Attwood

    When you've been bitten by a dog...twice, you stay away from it. For me the F104G and the G91. Still got the scars. 🙄

  • Inventing Spirit
    Inventing Spirit

    I can't see the connection between the sim and a bad addon. I have their G-91 and F-104 and I would describe their flight characteristics also as bad. Flying the procedures as described in the ma

11 hours ago, btacon said:

(2). The pilot models (default Asobo) are too small inside (they need to be resized by the dev) also no way to hide pilots inside the cockpit. 

I'm wondering if this is correct.

I thought the default pilot models were having correct size. In such a case, isn't it the plane exterior model that is too big ?

From what I have read on another forum, the plane looks too big, especially when parked next to a default aircraft.

Edited by Daube
Reformulating my remarks

double post, sorry 😕

Edited by Daube

Hm, I thought it would be first day buy, but the review makes me wait a bit.

SSW make good airplanes, but their support is really bad. I love the F-104 and the TF-104, but like Ron, I dumped the G-91....

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Regards

Gunter Schneider

14 minutes ago, Viking01 said:

Hm, I thought it would be first day buy, but the review makes me wait a bit.

SSW make good airplanes, but their support is really bad. I love the F-104 and the TF-104, but like Ron, I dumped the G-91....

Yes.  I paid what I consider to be a lot of money for the G-91 and F-104, so if they are not going to support them properly, I absolutely cannot see the point in putting any more money in their pockets.  And this scaling / size issue seems to be quite a basic error.  Do they think people would not notice? :laugh:

Like you, I would love a 260 in my sim, but it won't be this one.

Edited by bobcat999

Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio.

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Been waiting for this release for a long while, the realair release was my first FSX addon AC many years ago.  Amazing aircraft, but unfortunately this release seems it's not yet ready for prime time.

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Purchased this one yesterday and did initial flight testing today. The flight model is pretty bad. From what I can tell, the creators did not use the Asobo/MS SDK to create the flight model. Many switches in the cockpit do not function. 

The flight model can be fixed but not without a good bit of work. 

https://uchisworld.wordpress.com/2023/08/12/cannot-recommend-this-purchase/

 

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  • 5 months later...

Couldn't resist the sale price and bought this last black friday.  In VR it is a beauty to behold both inside and out, but that's the only thing positive about it.  As an AC known for its use in precision acrobatic formation flying, I find this sim's flight characteristics like trying to walk a german shepard that's spotted a squirrel, plus its graphics cost me about 10 fps compared the likes of the Just Flight PA-28 Arrow.  As we used to say, this sim is now shelf-ware.

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6 hours ago, TheFamilyMan said:

As we used to say, this sim is now shelf-ware.

I can't see the connection between the sim and a bad addon.

I have their G-91 and F-104 and I would describe their flight characteristics also as bad. Flying the procedures as described in the manual causes an inescapable crash.

But that has nothing to do with the sim.

Edited by fsiscool

7 hours ago, TheFamilyMan said:

Couldn't resist the sale price and bought this last black friday.  In VR it is a beauty to behold both inside and out, but that's the only thing positive about it.  As an AC known for its use in precision acrobatic formation flying, I find this sim's flight characteristics like trying to walk a german shepard that's spotted a squirrel, plus its graphics cost me about 10 fps compared the likes of the Just Flight PA-28 Arrow.  As we used to say, this sim is now shelf-ware.

YouTube reviews are your friend! 
I like the 260 so I nearly bought this as well, but I looked for some feedback on the internet while having a cup of tea and a biscuit. 
The feedback wasn't the best, and in fact, seemed quite negative, so I decided to leave it.

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Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio.

Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's.  Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.

7 hours ago, fsiscool said:

But that has nothing to do with the sim.

Sorry about my loose "sim" reference.  MSFS is wonderful/excellent/etc., the sim SF-260 experience can't be described using polite language.

Yeah, should've know better.  But dang, it's VC rocks in VR (and the AC literally does too when in flight).

Edited by TheFamilyMan

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1 hour ago, TheFamilyMan said:

Sorry about my loose "sim" reference.  MSFS is wonderful/excellent/etc., the sim SF-260 experience can't be described using polite language.

Yeah, should've know better.  But dang, it's VC rocks in VR (and the AC literally does too when in flight).

We can only hope they gradually improve it.  They do improvements and updates, but quite slowly.  I had an update to the F-104 just recently, and that is quite old.

Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio.

Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's.  Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.

  • 1 year later...

Did anyone buy the version compatible with 2024?

I did, and I cannot get the plane to fly because there is no way to remove the pitot cover, not during the walk-around, and it does not disappear when spawing on a runway.

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Regards

Gunter Schneider

21 hours ago, Viking01 said:

Did anyone buy the version compatible with 2024?

I did, and I cannot get the plane to fly because there is no way to remove the pitot cover, not during the walk-around, and it does not disappear when spawing on a runway.

This problem got me at the first flight.

It can be removed during the walkround with the mouse or Xbox Controller after starting the flight at a stand.

Good luck

Thanks, I did not have enough luck. The mouse does not grab it, it never changes from the usual arrow and so the cover cannot be selected. Very strange!

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Regards

Gunter Schneider

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