Projection Configuration in XP12 cost $1,000.00

[Mike_CFII_MEL 837]

Hi,

In order to use XP12's projection configuration setup you'll have to pony up a grand, ouch! Is that $1,000.00 per X-Plane pro copy?

[mSparks 2,130]

yes.

But VR is far superior anyway.....

[StuSpeed 15]

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$1k in 3rd party addons
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X-Plane pro x3

Not being glib as I'm planning a similarly ambitious project.  Other projection software is very expensive.  The cost of the last 3rd I'd consider money well spent. 

[turbomax 3,350]

9 hours ago, mSparks said:

But VR is far superior anyway.....

I agree for home use. projectors are used in professional training cockpits and motion platforms.

[hs118 732]

10 hours ago, mSparks said:

yes.

But VR is far superior anyway.....

Not sure you have seen @Mike_CFII_MEL's setup. VR may be superior for you but I'm with Mike and his cockpit.

Edited November 16, 2023 by hs118

[Malaromane 460]

If you want to do warping and blending of projectors, I would think that Immersive Display Pro from Elise-ng would be a cheaper alternative (but still expensive) that would work for all of your sims rather than just X-Plane:
https://fly.elise-ng.net/immersive-display-pro/

[mSparks 2,130]

1 hour ago, hs118 said:

Not sure you have seen @Mike_CFII_MEL's setup. VR may be superior for you but I'm with Mike and his cockpit.

 

[Ianrivaldosmith 5,318]

1 hour ago, hs118 said:

Not sure you have seen @Mike_CFII_MEL's setup. VR may be superior for you but I'm with Mike and his cockpit.

Likewise. Vr is good immersion in short bursts yeah, but it’s still 5-10 years away from where it needs to be for simming. I’ve had all the top end headsets and returned them all. 

[mSparks 2,130]

23 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Likewise. Vr is good immersion in short bursts yeah, but it’s still 5-10 years away from where it needs to be for simming. I’ve had all the top end headsets and returned them all. 

even 3x 4K projectors is only going to get you like 640x480 resolution "at the window" because so much is wasted (and no rain on the glass).

Even a low end headset will beat that.

for his setup, other than VR, high end displays mounted in the window is the next best option, projectors would be a downgrade from what he has now.

Best option is "probably" going to be the apple vision that launches next year.

Edited November 16, 2023 by mSparks

[hs118 732]

1 hour ago, mSparks said:

 

sure. been waiting for it. not there yet for us lowly home users.

[Mike_CFII_MEL 837]

5 hours ago, hs118 said:

Not sure you have seen @Mike_CFII_MEL's setup. VR may be superior for you but I'm with Mike and his cockpit.

Hi,

Yep, VR doesn't come close to being superior compared to riding in a full flight deck. As far as fighter pilot training, they wear helmets that use eye tracking so for them V/R is good solution, but not for commercial tube liner training. That's why they have very expensive Level-D trainers and no VR setups.

Edited November 16, 2023 by Mike_CFII_MEL

[Bulva 98]

The biggest advantage of VR is that one day you can fly a B737 and the next day you can board a C172. 😉 

[Ianrivaldosmith 5,318]

3 minutes ago, Bulva said:

The biggest advantage of VR is that one day you can fly a B737 and the next day you can board a C172. 😉 

And the biggest disadvantage is feeling like you're scuba diving whilst looking at  a low res world. 

[Mike_CFII_MEL 837]

18 minutes ago, Bulva said:

The biggest advantage of VR is that one day you can fly a B737 and the next day you can board a C172. 😉 

Hi,

For me I think VR is good for fighter and Heli pilots if one doesn't have the hardware. I'm also not obligated to turn on my flight deck to run a flight, I can turn on my desk top computer and fly whatever I like. But, I don't... I spend 100% of my time in the NG.

Edited November 16, 2023 by Mike_CFII_MEL

[Mike_CFII_MEL 837]

13 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

And the biggest disadvantage is feeling like you're scuba diving whilst looking at  a low res world. 

Hi,

The resolution didn't bother me as much as the headset getting heavy after a while and the sweat that develops. I would not want t do a 2-1/2 hour ride wearing one of these. Plus if I have to get up and use the can or get a drink, I have to take the stuff off, can be a bit of a pain.

Edited November 16, 2023 by Mike_CFII_MEL