I have just watched a 'wing view' video of a real life A320 landing in Edinburgh during a storm. The plane is rocking left to right, and vice versa and you can see the ailerons moving to correct the planes approach.

When, I try and replicate this on either my PMDG 737-800 or Fenix A320, and select a 'wing view'  I do not get any aileron movement - sometimes I think I see a very very small movement, but nothing like I recall from real life, or from the video I have just watched.

Is this a limitation of MSFS 2020?

 

Edited - For completeness, I should add that when I check my controls on the ground, and move my rudder left or right, the ailerons do move when I view externally. Similarly, if I am flying the plane manually and turn left or right the ailerons move as expected. It is when the plane is in automatic pilot mode that the ailerons do not move when the plane says turns left or right, or is in turbulence.

Edited January 24, 20242 yr by SquadronLeader

I'm confused! Do you have flight recorder data from real A320 and exact weather condition that you can import to MSFS? If not then how do you expect to see exactly the same control deflection in a wing view?

No, I am not importing the exact conditions into MSFS. I guess what I am trying to say, is that whenever the plane turns, I see no aileron deflection on either wing. If I am in turbulence, I see no aileron deflection - in fact whatever conditions I am flying in - I see no aileron deflection.

I am trying to establish if other flight simmers experience the same issue, whether it is a limitation of MSFS, or am I just not doing something right?

Yepp, same here with the PMDG 737. There is barely any visible aileron/spoileron movement.

 

In a real airliner in a normal turn, especially at high cruise speeds in non-turbulent conditions, you will see very little (if any) obvious aileron movement in a turn. The amount of aileron defection required to initiate a bank is very, very small at high true airspeeds.

At slow speeds, fully configured for landing, in bumpy air, movement is much more visible - especially if the aircraft has roll spoilers or flaperons. 

Yes, once you're at cruise speeds in something like a 737 (565mph?), the control deflections will be tiny 'nudges'.  Maybe try putting the AP in very early on climbout (set "AP realistic engagement" to OFF in the PMDG's settings).   At a speed of say <170kts.  Then go to your wing view and see if the control deflections are more noticeable?

Maybe this is what you saw on youtube... 🤣

 

This is not the video I referred to in my original post on this thread - but is a similar one. You can just see the ailerons which are moving or 'nudging'  -  this is what I would expect to see when in the wing view of the PMDG 747/800 or the Fenix A320 - but  I do not see any of this moving or 'nudging' whatever the weather conditions when on autopilot.

https://fb.watch/pNRrkUR6Hg/?

 

1 hour ago, SquadronLeader said:

This is not the video I referred to in my original post on this thread - but is a similar one. You can just see the ailerons which are moving or 'nudging'  -  this is what I would expect to see when in the wing view of the PMDG 747/800 or the Fenix A320 - but  I do not see any of this moving or 'nudging' whatever the weather conditions when on autopilot.

https://fb.watch/pNRrkUR6Hg/?

 

If you think somethings wrong, go to the relevant dev, and ask. Far more likely to get the answer you want there. personally i watched 737-9 and A320's real vids on You Tube last night, and even at low speed it was very hard to see any movement. 

I don't see that much of a deflection rate here too:

EXTREME TURBULENT LANDING INTO MANCHESTER! (youtube.com)

Horror Landeanflug Landung Crosswind Seitenwind Salzburg Sturm durchstarten (youtube.com)

Overall MFS 2020 does a quite decent job at replicating the effects of gusting / turbulent conditions on the aircraft, while in flight. On the ground and due to the present and acknowledged and under development limitations of the ground physics and of the blend between ground and flight models, it's a bit more tricky and at times maybe unrealistic, but while in flight it looks ok to me.

1 hour ago, jcomm said:

I don't see that much of a deflection rate here too:

EXTREME TURBULENT LANDING INTO MANCHESTER! (youtube.com)

Horror Landeanflug Landung Crosswind Seitenwind Salzburg Sturm durchstarten (youtube.com)

Overall MFS 2020 does a quite decent job at replicating the effects of gusting / turbulent conditions on the aircraft, while in flight. On the ground and due to the present and acknowledged and under development limitations of the ground physics and of the blend between ground and flight models, it's a bit more tricky and at times maybe unrealistic, but while in flight it looks ok to me.

Those videos are exactly what I would expect to see, the ailerons moving/nudging to keep the plane level - as best it can depending on the prevailing weather.

The fact that I am not seeing any such moving/nudging under any weather condition (within MSFS 2020) whilst the plane is in the air and controlled by the autopilot - suggests to me that this is a limitation of MSFS.