18 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

So is the Fenix correct or not? I'm confused.

According to A330Driver, the Toliss is correct. I don't know.

But it's clear the guy who responded having watched videos of engine starts was talking about full stabilization, while A330Driver was most definitely talking about starter engagement to disengagement, given that it takes about 30 secs until disengagement. So concluding him to be wrong was a bit premature.

@abrams_tank et al, thanks for all suggestions re: RL A320 youtubers. Personally I prefer 320 Simpilot as I like his style the most. 

About Into The Blue - he's not a type rated A320 driver? But he's a RL pilot, no? I really like his reviews and insights. 

25 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

@abrams_tank et al, thanks for all suggestions re: RL A320 youtubers. Personally I prefer 320 Simpilot as I like his style the most. 

About Into The Blue - he's not a type rated A320 driver? But he's a RL pilot, no? I really like his reviews and insights. 

I thought IntoTheBlue was a type rated A320 pilot? I see he had a tutorial series on the A320 and he wrote "Real Airbus Pilot" in the Youtube video title: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ7AgnDTA7A

My recollection was that he was type rated on the A320, but I could be wrong. Maybe he is type rated on another Airbus and not the A320.  Perhaps somebody who has a better memory than me or who actually follows him more frequently, can confirm if he is type rated on the A320.

Edited March 4, 20242 yr by abrams_tank

1 hour ago, Claudius_ said:

Stearmandriver is a good and expert guy, but I had some discussion with him at the PMDG forum (and here, if I recall correctly), and yes, for him the Caesar's wife must be above suspicion. The problem is just with the influencers, affiliated or not, they want appear just like authorities. So, I like to read and listen to some people not involved in flight sims.

If there are other real life A320 type rated pilots at Avsim, I would also consider their review of the Fenix A320 after Block 2. Unfortunately, I don't know of a well known A320 pilot who posts here frequently at Avsim, who has spoken about the Fenix A320 Block 2 yet.

Edited March 4, 20242 yr by abrams_tank

1 hour ago, lwt1971 said:

Can never go wrong by paying attention to IRL pilots' opinions & reviews, especially when they're also experienced simmers, and even more especially if they are captains/FOs on the specific birds in question. In the case of the V1 Simulations, Blackbox711, 320 Sim Pilot they are all three, and also quite unbiased and straight to the point (per the countless reviews they've done across various sims and aircraft add-ons). Folks like Into the Blue Simulations I also like though no IRL experience on the 320 particularly. Apart from their reviews they also provide lots of useful insights and commentary that teaches us non-IRL-pilot simmers loads 🙂

These were the main points/quotes from above pilots I posted in the main Fenix thread:

• Blackbox711 (general first review): https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/642692-fenix-a320-block-2-is-released/page/14/?tab=comments#comment-5072299
• V1 Simulations (detailed look, failure/abnormal scenarios): https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/642692-fenix-a320-block-2-is-released/page/29/?tab=comments#comment-5073199
• 320 Sim Pilot (first look from cold start to take-off): https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/642692-fenix-a320-block-2-is-released/page/39/?tab=comments#comment-5073829
• A330 Driver (prev known as 737NG Driver.. particularly interesting since he didn't like the older Fenix's flight dynamics): https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/642692-fenix-a320-block-2-is-released/page/33/?tab=comments#comment-5073439

 

For everyones's information, here is the actual video and timestamp of Blackbox711's review, after his first flight of the Fenix A320, Block 2: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2076257361?t=04h40m37s. I believe he did further flights with it, so I don't know if his opinion changed after further flights.

Edited March 4, 20242 yr by abrams_tank

I saw the V1-Simulations video from the other day, where he's landing at KFLL, around 2:09:00 into the video, and he sounds really happy. You can see his sidestick and tiller setup in the corner. I definitely cherish such moments from rw pilots who fly the model being simulated. 

For the non rw pilot vloggers I tend to like Q8 pilot.

I'm thinking of some non race car mundane driving simulator, go to work, pick up groceries, take the kids to soccer practice. An occasional crazy driver cutting you off. Probably quite a few people on Avsim are rw drivers. Probably everyone would agree pc driving isn't the same as rw driving, just how close it gets would be a point of argument. But really cool to see this Fenix A320 seemingly making significant strides closer to reality, however close that might be.

 

37 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

I thought IntoTheBlue was a type rated A320 pilot? I see he had a tutorial series on the A320 and he wrote "Real Airbus Pilot" in the Youtube video title: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ7AgnDTA7A

That's what I assumed as well. But got confused by this: 

1 hour ago, lwt1971 said:

Folks like Into the Blue Simulations I also like though no IRL experience on the 320 particularly.

14 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

That's what I assumed as well. But got confused by this: 

Ah, I could well be wrong about Into-the-Blue and the A320 🙂
 

Edited March 4, 20242 yr by lwt1971

10 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Ah, I could well be wrong about Into-the-Blue and the A320 🙂
 

I tried to figure this out, but still not sure which Airbus he flies. In the Fenix review more than a year ago he mentions: "for those of you who aren't aware I do actually fly the Airbus in the real world".

3 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I tried to figure this out, but still not sure which Airbus he flies. In the Fenix review more than a year ago he mentions: "for those of you who aren't aware I do actually fly the Airbus in the real world".

Interesting. So if IntoTheBlue doesn't fly the A320 in real life (but does fly another Airbus), his review is probably as useful as A330 Driver's review. Still useful, but not as useful as an actual type rated A320 pilot.

Edited March 4, 20242 yr by abrams_tank

In the comments of his Fenix B2 review video (entitled - "Block 2 so how does it fly - hint: not sh*t any more"), "A330 driver" is now having a massive pop at "V1", saying he has no principles for not saying that Fenix Block 1 was sh*t when it so obviously is, and that he is a meme.   This from an arrogant nugget who has never flown a A320 in the real world.    He's also calling everyone who disagrees with him in any way, a f-a-n  b-o-y.

Honestly, I don't know why anyone gives this guy the time of day.

54 minutes ago, JYW said:

Honestly, I don't know why anyone gives this guy the time of day.

Not being a huge fan of that kind of attitude/behaviour, I'll go ahead and unsubscribe from his channel. Thanks for the heads up!

My favourite however is live-streaming V2 as we speak:

 

Edited March 4, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett

5 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

My favourite however is live-streaming V2 as we speak:

320SimPilot somehow manages to be knowledgeable, entertaining, honest and self deprecating at the same time. If hes not sure of something, he will say so. No bluff and bluster. Ive learned a huge amount from watching his videos and live streams.

1 hour ago, JYW said:

In the comments of his Fenix B2 review video (entitled - "Block 2 so how does it fly - hint: not sh*t any more"), "A330 driver" is now having a massive pop at "V1", saying he has no principles for not saying that Fenix Block 1 was sh*t when it so obviously is, and that he is a meme.   This from an arrogant nugget who has never flown a A320 in the real world.    He's also calling everyone who disagrees with him in any way, a f-a-n  b-o-y.

Honestly, I don't know why anyone gives this guy the time of day.

I do because at the end of the day the delivery of the message may not have been the most appropriate but something needed to be done and he wasnt afraid to say what needed to be said. Do i agree with everything he says .. no but i don't show up for the drama, I show up to learn things and procedures and regardless of whether he is type rated or not every ATP posess core competencies and people have brains and senses to observe and deduce that something is not giving the expected repeatable output under consistent repeatable inputs and conditions. 

Now someone like myself who has much thinner skin would have gotten offended, and responded unkindly. The devs at Fenix saw the commentary (among other valid complaints and issues), took up the challenge and here we are with product and handling improvements. So no hes not specifically A320 type rated .. Yes his attitude and directness of conversation may not be the best but the very things he was complaining about got fixed. We are all better for it.

I'm guessing this is unpopular opinion on these boards but hopefully we are still free to express a contrarian view.

Just my 2c

 

Edited March 4, 20242 yr by Maxis

6 minutes ago, Vel said:

320SimPilot somehow manages to be knowledgeable, entertaining, honest and self deprecating at the same time. If hes not sure of something, he will say so. No bluff and bluster. Ive learned a huge amount from watching his videos and live streams.

Ive learned from Gavin , A320 sim pilot and 737ng pilot ..

With the exception of Gavin they are all ATP's so the knowledge is there regardless. Just a matter of delivery preference.