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mmcmah
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I just had a gorgeous flight from KJFK to KEWR, going over Central Park and heading south over Manhattan to to connect with the visual approach to runway 29 at KEWR.

One thing I noticed is that as soon as I loaded in (using FPS Tolerance, which I do prefer over FPS Sensitivity), the TLOD started increasing because I had not started PSXT. Since it takes a while for PSXT to load up and search all that it searches before starting to inject traffic, the TLOD had risen a fair bit (from 100 to 505) before the FPS drain of traffic being injected caused it to come back down.

I don't think anything negative about AutoFPS about that - it quickly started correcting the TLOD to get the FPS under control and the whole time traffic was climbing and new planes were being injected, the TLOD was stabilizing, exactly as hoped for and expected. Once the traffic stabilized, so did the TLOD/FPS. Perfect performance as it allowed me to take off at a higher TLOD (>200) than I would have if I had been using IFR mode (my IFR TlOD Min is 100 for places like NYC). As I wasn't trying to hammer the system, but rather fly out in a normal flight, I was very impressed.

As I flew over Manhattan at about 3000 AGL, my TLOD never dropped below 500 and I had no stutters. By the time I joined up the short visual final to runway 29 at KEWR, my TLOD was down to 373 (due to my setting the FPS target about halfway between my max and my min desired FPS for my system - which I have internally decided on at 70 and 40 respectively). By the time I landed, the TLOD was still above 300.

Everything performed exactly as hoped for. I would go as far as to say, like butter. Very impressed and definitely loving the return of FPS Tolerance along with the easy switch to IFR if I think it will be a really problematic scenery. This last experience has me thinking I'll use VFR with FPS Tolerance more frequently unless I'm landing at a very complex scenery (my KEWR is the sim default). Landing, as @Cpt_Piett has pointed out, is the trickiest time for the VFR options.

Here is my log, just for reference:

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2024-03-21 11:10:04.459 [INF] [ ServiceController:ServiceLoop    ] Initial LODs PC 200 / 400 and VR 100 / 400
2024-03-21 11:10:04.459 [INF] [ ServiceController:ServiceLoop    ] Initial cloud quality PC High / VR Medium
2024-03-21 11:10:04.459 [INF] [ ServiceController:ServiceLoop    ] Setting OLOD @ Base on ground 500
2024-03-21 11:10:24.278 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 70 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 200 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: -0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:10:33.273 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 68 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 280 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: -0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:10:42.284 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 59 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 370 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: -0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:10:55.276 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 66 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 375 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: -0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:11:04.296 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 60 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 455 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: -0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:11:13.298 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 495 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: -0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:11:22.300 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 520 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: -0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:11:31.301 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 53 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 555 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:11:40.300 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 51 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 510 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:11:49.289 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 50 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 455 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:11:58.291 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 57 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 420 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:12:07.293 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 465 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:12:16.298 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 490 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:12:25.293 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 505 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:12:34.297 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 51 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 475 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:12:43.314 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 49 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 405 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:12:52.316 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 345 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:13:01.306 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 375 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:13:10.307 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 49 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 335 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:13:19.319 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 48 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 250 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:13:28.310 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 180 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:13:52.327 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 60 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 185 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 0 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:14:01.330 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 225 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: -1 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:14:12.326 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 230 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: -1 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:14:21.324 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 238 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 1 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:14:30.326 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 53 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 222 OLOD: 500 AGL: 4 FPM: -1 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:14:39.321 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 52 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 214 OLOD: 500 AGL: 46 FPM: 478 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:14:48.321 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 51 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 209 OLOD: 500 AGL: 193 FPM: 1108 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:14:57.326 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 53 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 195 OLOD: 500 AGL: 456 FPM: 2209 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:15:06.331 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 58 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 199 OLOD: 500 AGL: 775 FPM: 1365 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:15:15.330 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 63 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 263 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1029 FPM: 2072 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:15:24.338 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 58 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 328 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1321 FPM: 1797 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:15:33.343 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 57 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 368 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1601 FPM: 1781 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:15:42.339 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 398 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1861 FPM: 1726 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:15:51.342 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 57 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 433 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1983 FPM: 899 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:16:00.341 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 443 OLOD: 490 AGL: 2185 FPM: 1296 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:16:09.338 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 453 OLOD: 480 AGL: 2350 FPM: 1247 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:16:18.353 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 463 OLOD: 467 AGL: 2554 FPM: 1279 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:16:27.357 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 473 OLOD: 461 AGL: 2659 FPM: 439 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:16:36.357 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 483 OLOD: 454 AGL: 2780 FPM: 869 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:16:45.356 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 483 OLOD: 451 AGL: 2831 FPM: 191 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:16:54.365 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 493 OLOD: 445 AGL: 2941 FPM: 947 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:17:03.362 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 493 OLOD: 439 AGL: 2981 FPM: 700 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:17:12.360 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 503 OLOD: 435 AGL: 3072 FPM: 84 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:17:21.365 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 53 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 478 OLOD: 441 AGL: 2989 FPM: -61 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:17:30.351 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 468 OLOD: 438 AGL: 3024 FPM: -157 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:17:39.359 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 503 OLOD: 438 AGL: 3014 FPM: -85 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:17:48.353 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 508 OLOD: 441 AGL: 2983 FPM: 10 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:17:57.361 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 508 OLOD: 438 AGL: 3006 FPM: 186 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:18:06.359 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 513 OLOD: 438 AGL: 3044 FPM: 162 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:18:15.363 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 518 OLOD: 438 AGL: 3078 FPM: 29 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:18:24.365 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 473 OLOD: 437 AGL: 3053 FPM: -54 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:18:33.358 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 498 OLOD: 432 AGL: 3125 FPM: -1 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:18:42.350 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 478 OLOD: 434 AGL: 3110 FPM: 112 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:18:51.364 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 448 OLOD: 437 AGL: 3039 FPM: -46 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:19:00.376 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 463 OLOD: 433 AGL: 3112 FPM: -119 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:19:09.380 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 483 OLOD: 435 AGL: 3069 FPM: -19 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:19:18.368 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 478 OLOD: 435 AGL: 3085 FPM: 140 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:19:27.370 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 438 OLOD: 433 AGL: 3125 FPM: -667 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:19:36.373 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 443 OLOD: 435 AGL: 3089 FPM: 79 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:19:45.372 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 418 OLOD: 432 AGL: 3154 FPM: 385 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:19:54.370 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 418 OLOD: 428 AGL: 3204 FPM: 34 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:20:03.371 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 433 OLOD: 432 AGL: 3108 FPM: -1010 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:20:12.371 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 438 OLOD: 450 AGL: 2904 FPM: -1221 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:20:21.367 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 398 OLOD: 446 AGL: 2907 FPM: 49 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:20:30.371 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 403 OLOD: 450 AGL: 2829 FPM: -635 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:20:39.379 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 428 OLOD: 453 AGL: 2772 FPM: -134 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:20:48.367 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 453 OLOD: 456 AGL: 2726 FPM: -791 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:20:57.368 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 478 OLOD: 472 AGL: 2431 FPM: -2401 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:21:06.379 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 478 OLOD: 492 AGL: 2115 FPM: -1685 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:21:15.376 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 483 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1823 FPM: -2627 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:21:24.376 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 52 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 453 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1642 FPM: -518 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:21:33.389 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 53 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 408 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1585 FPM: -66 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:21:42.384 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 53 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 363 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1586 FPM: -290 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:21:51.384 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 323 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1534 FPM: 394 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:22:00.396 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 348 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1467 FPM: -122 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:22:09.387 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 373 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1543 FPM: -730 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:22:18.390 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 403 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1439 FPM: -555 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:22:27.397 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 363 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1308 FPM: -817 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:22:36.389 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 403 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1233 FPM: -425 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:22:45.387 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 373 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1202 FPM: -147 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:22:54.385 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 373 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1227 FPM: 317 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:23:03.392 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 398 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1280 FPM: 142 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:23:12.389 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 398 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1348 FPM: 75 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:23:21.386 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 398 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1309 FPM: -254 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:23:30.387 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 378 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1251 FPM: 270 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:23:39.382 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 333 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1281 FPM: -393 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:23:48.383 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 353 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1205 FPM: -880 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:23:57.395 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 383 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1068 FPM: -532 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:24:06.393 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 373 OLOD: 500 AGL: 1003 FPM: -652 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:24:15.386 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 335 OLOD: 500 AGL: 839 FPM: -1069 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:24:24.384 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 57 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 367 OLOD: 500 AGL: 694 FPM: -298 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:24:33.383 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 384 OLOD: 500 AGL: 702 FPM: -265 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:24:42.390 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 357 OLOD: 500 AGL: 617 FPM: -286 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:24:51.388 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 333 OLOD: 500 AGL: 652 FPM: -334 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:25:00.397 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 56 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 351 OLOD: 500 AGL: 653 FPM: -125 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:25:09.391 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 363 OLOD: 500 AGL: 602 FPM: -264 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:25:18.388 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 345 OLOD: 500 AGL: 604 FPM: -130 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:25:27.384 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 330 OLOD: 500 AGL: 534 FPM: -500 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:25:36.384 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 344 OLOD: 500 AGL: 483 FPM: -393 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:25:45.387 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 344 OLOD: 500 AGL: 437 FPM: -295 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:25:54.397 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 344 OLOD: 500 AGL: 406 FPM: -147 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:26:03.397 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 344 OLOD: 500 AGL: 335 FPM: -228 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:26:12.385 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 344 OLOD: 500 AGL: 343 FPM: -53 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:26:21.391 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 344 OLOD: 500 AGL: 328 FPM: -175 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:26:30.389 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 54 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 328 OLOD: 500 AGL: 293 FPM: -293 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:26:39.395 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 324 OLOD: 500 AGL: 246 FPM: -259 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:26:48.397 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 55 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 324 OLOD: 500 AGL: 208 FPM: -199 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:26:57.395 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 53 FGAct: True Pri: FPS TLOD: 316 OLOD: 500 AGL: 155 FPM: -379 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:27:06.410 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 51 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 308 OLOD: 500 AGL: 95 FPM: -336 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:27:15.406 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 50 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 308 OLOD: 500 AGL: 57 FPM: -269 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:27:24.407 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 50 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 308 OLOD: 500 AGL: 13 FPM: -202 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:27:33.399 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 49 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 308 OLOD: 500 AGL: 4 FPM: -94 Clouds: High
2024-03-21 11:27:42.404 [INF] [ MainWindow:UpdateLiveValues      ] FPS: 49 FGAct: True Pri: TLOD TLOD: 290 OLOD: 500 AGL: 3 FPM: 2 Clouds: High

Note, this was with 4.2.5-test. @Reset XPDR, I tried alternatinng between FPS Tolerance and FPS Sensitityv with this latest version as well as the one I had used last night and FPS Sensitivity worked as you expected it. It did not raise the TLOD on the ground. It left it wherever it was, even if FPS Tolerance had already increased it above the default value, it just stayed at that value unlt taking off.

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mmcmah    409

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1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said:

EDIT: Just re-watched my Montpellier video. What's really interesting is that stutters reduces significantly below AGL 100ft which corresponds with this (readme): 

Yes, I have noted that previously. It's what I call my vicious cycle of FPS drop/TLOD change/Stutter all reinforcing each other and causing the cycle to repeat. It's why I think FPS Tolerance does a better job, because it makes less frequent adjustments to the TLOD.

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15 minutes ago, mmcmah said:

Everything performed exactly as hoped for. I would go as far as to say, like butter. Very impressed and definitely loving the return of FPS Tolerance along with the easy switch to IFR if I think it will be a really problematic scenery. This last experience has me thinking I'll use VFR with FPS Tolerance more frequently unless I'm landing at a very complex scenery (my KEWR is the sim default). Landing, as @Cpt_Piett has pointed out, is the trickiest time for the VFR options.

Switching between IFR/VFR is very easy, making it a (potentially) no-brainer to start in VFR in a low-density area, and switch to IFR before approaching a high-density area. Or vice versa of course. The caveat (IMO) is that some fine-tuning is needed to avoid massive stutters a few seconds before touchdown (or just after takeoff).

As these tests/analysis are very time-consuming, I’ve only been able to test using sensitivity mode. After a break I’ll do some flying in VFR tolerance mode. 

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6 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Switching between IFR/VFR is very easy, making it a (potentially) no-brainer to start in VFR in a low-density area, and switch to IFR before approaching a high-density area. Or vice versa of course. The caveat (IMO) is that some fine-tuning is needed to avoid massive stutters a few seconds before touchdown (or just after takeoff).

As these tests/analysis are very time-consuming, I’ve only been able to test using sensitivity mode. After a break I’ll do some flying in VFR tolerance mode. 

That's a good point, being able to switch between them. Doing that, though, would be better if VFR to IFR switching took the currently active TLOD level as a starting point, rather than starting at the TLOD Min value. I mentioned this some pages back, and I think it's currently intended to start from TLOD Min and work its way up.

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15 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Switching between IFR/VFR is very easy, making it a (potentially) no-brainer to start in VFR in a low-density area, and switch to IFR before approaching a high-density area. Or vice versa of course. The caveat (IMO) is that some fine-tuning is needed to avoid massive stutters a few seconds before touchdown (or just after takeoff).

As these tests/analysis are very time-consuming, I’ve only been able to test using sensitivity mode. After a break I’ll do some flying in VFR tolerance mode. 

I really appreciate all your good testing. Myself I only have time during the weekends so all your findings are very welcome.

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30 minutes ago, GSalden said:

I really appreciate all your good testing. Myself I only have time during the weekends so all your findings are very welcome.

Thanks for saying that, much appreciated!

After looking at the video even more closely, I’ll almost be so bold as to conclude that the problematic phase is only from AGL 500ft to 50ft on approach, and 50ft to 500ft on departure. Outside of that, everything is fine.

During these problematic phases, not only do nasty frame time spikes occur, but also FPS falls well below target. 

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7 hours ago, hvw said:

Might it be a good idea to start a new thread on the testing and progress of this great app? Now one, at least I, cannot tell the forest for the trees 🙂 

 

Thanks,
Hans

Most discussion in this topic relates mainly to resolving stutters being experienced with the released 0.4.2 version. The test version I have created relates directly to that and just happens to include a few minor enhancements with it, which I have summarised here just one page ago:

12 hours ago, Reset XPDR said:

Summary of cumulative notable changes in 0.4.2.5-test since the 0.4.2 formal release:

  • Reduced TLOD changes in VFR mode on a sliding scale from 1000 ft to the ground to reduce potential stuttering at low altitudes.
  • Auto pause will now engage when either active pause or settings menu is brought up in flight.
  • User-selectable TLOD automation method, giving the choice between the new FPS sensitivity (smaller changes more often) and the old FPS Tolerance (larger changes less often) to resolve smoothness issue.
  • App will now remember last window position on startup. Can be disabled in config file.
  • Expanded Target FPS to also save a different value for IFR and VFR for each display mode.
  • Fixed major issue where certain combinations of TLOD Min, Max and Cloud Recovery TLOD could result in an app crash and failure of the app to start again until the config file was deleted.
  • Various minor bug fixes and logic improvements.
  • Logging updated to reflect changed functionality.

IMO it is not different enough to warrant starting a whole new discussion topic, particularly since the discussion between the two versions is so interrelated. That's pretty much it for this test version, which will be releasing shortly.

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I am still seeing a lot of testing of VFR mode in IFR-like situations and with huge TLOD ranges being discussed, which of course is going to stress and break it. VFR mode, as I have made it, is intended to be used when you are well away from complex scenery areas in your little Cessna 172 or maybe a Kodiak 100 out around some regional airports or sparsely populated mountainous scenery.  Please keep that in mind when testing it out.

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You know me. I just want to test the limits to see what works and not 🙂 No harm intended. During my recent fly-ins to relatively low-density areas (LFBZ, LEBB, LESO), I chose IFR mode before the approach. Works great. 

I added this to the video description:

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Note: I'm testing VFR mode way outside the intended usage area here. A word from the developer (Reset XPDR): "VFR mode, as I have made it, is intended to be used when you are well away from complex scenery areas in your little Cessna 172 or maybe a Kodiak 100 out around some regional airports or sparsely populated mountainous scenery. Please keep that in mind when testing it out."

EDIT: Just thought of something. I'll try setting IFR mode TLOD Base to 500 (previously 1000) to see what happens. Also, I've reduced FPS tolerance to 3%. Currently en route EHAM. Still not sure which one is most beneficial - tolerance vs sensitivity. 

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EDIT: Having been on quite the round trip around Europe, flying into Heathrow, Schiphol, Brussels, and now en route Orly (all payware airports), I've learned some lessons which I think others can benefit from as well. 

I have a high-end system. Currently flying in IFR expert mode w/ AI traffic. On approach into all these airports (very high-dense scenery), my hardware couldn't cope with my target FPS. In fact it fell well below, despite AutoFPS reducing all settings to minimum (TLOD 50, clouds medium). 

It's just worth noting. These are some of the most demanding locations in the sim. These situations are heavily CPU-limited as the mainthread can't keep up with the GPU frame times. So for those that want the best visual quality when flying into these areas often - having a top of the line CPU is a necessity. Having a FG-capable GPU certainly helps, but as I've mentioned before, it won't save the day when native FPS falls below 30. 

Also, I read a lot of complaints about "molten", "post-apocalyptic" PG-buildings. This is IMO unavoidable if one wants to fly into the mega-hubs with reasonable FPS. Can't have your cake etc. Of course sometime PG goes molten as the connection to MSFS servers is too bad. 

Just my 5 cents. 

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I tried the test version and when i load the took and MSFS simconnect and session are red. It was working in previous versions of this tool. Most likely cause? User error. 

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1 hour ago, RobJC said:

I tried the test version and when i load the took and MSFS simconnect and session are red. It was working in previous versions of this tool. Most likely cause? User error. 

Nothing has changed in the simconnect and session code for weeks. Sometimes the connections glitch like this and you just need to restart the app and/or MSFS to get it working.

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All's quiet on the Western front here today so either testers have given up in disgust 😄 or 0.4.2.5-test is performing acceptably. I'm going to assume the latter, so in preparation for formal release I have updated the readme file with the few additions and changes this release will make to 0.4.2. I have tagged them as (v0.4.2.5) so if someone can take a quick look at them by searching through the readme here for that tag and tell me if I have explained things well enough, I would much appreciate it.

I have also made the second section of the readme an official FAQ and I have added the following question which I am getting frequently as it turns out 😁:

I am getting major stuttering, freezes or CTDs in MSFS using this app. What can I do to stop them?

  • By far the most common reason is users have enabled expert settings and have modified the default settings to be way beyond what their system is capable of, even without running the app.
  • As such, the first step to resolve is to restore the app's default settings, which you can do by using the installer to uninstall (remove option) and reinstall, which will recreate your config file.
  • Rerun the app and try non-expert mode with IFR flight type and Auto Target FPS checked.
  • If this doesn't resolve it, try enabling expert options and reducing the FPS Sensitivity setting to 2, to allow smaller TLOD changes.
  • (v0.4.2.5) If still not resolved, try the FPS Tolerance mode, which was the automation method in the original release version that had larger TLOD changes but they occurred less often, with a setting of 5.
  • Finally, if still not resolved, raise an issue here on github and I will do my best to help you, provided you have completed all of the aforementioned steps first.

Please let me know if this answer covers the issue well enough.

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All good on my end! Couldn’t break 0.4.2.5 either, and now 7 or 8 of your Leo’s are staring at me from my desktop, probably thinking: “just give up the torture tests and be happy flying!”. Just completed a grand tour of Europe visiting lots of major hubs as well as some smaller ones. The build is robust, you win 😅

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11 minutes ago, Reset XPDR said:

All's quiet on the Western front here today so either testers have given up in disgust 😄 or 0.4.2.5-test is performing acceptably. I'm going to assume the latter, so in preparation for formal release I have updated the readme file with the few additions and changes this release will make to 0.4.2. I have tagged them as (v0.4.2.5) so if someone can take a quick look at them by searching through the readme here for that tag and tell me if I have explained things well enough, I would much appreciate it.

I have also made the second section of the readme an official FAQ and I have added the following question which I am getting frequently as it turns out 😁:

I am getting major stuttering, freezes or CTDs in MSFS using this app. What can I do to stop them?

  • By far the most common reason is users have enabled expert settings and have modified the default settings to be way beyond what their system is capable of, even without running the app.
  • As such, the first step to resolve is to restore default settings, which you can do by exiting the app completely and delete your config file in the app's root directory ie. %appdata%\MSFS2020_AutoFPS\MSFS2020_AutoFPS.config (NOT the one in the bin directory).
  • Rerun the app and try non-expert mode with IFR flight type and Auto Target FPS checked.
  • If this doesn't resolve it, try enabling expert options and reducing the FPS Sensitivity setting to 2, to allow smaller TLOD changes.
  • (v0.4.2.5) If still not resolved, try the FPS Tolerance mode, which was the automation method in the original release version that had larger TLOD changes but they occurred less often, with a setting of 5.
  • Finally, if still not resolved, raise an issue here on github and I will do my best to help you, provided you have completed all of the aforementioned steps first.

Please let me know if this answer covers the issue well enough.

BTW, I was going to leave this release as is, but I do have a reset settings to default button idea on my wishlist that I could implement if people think it would be a much better method than having the user searching for the config file to delete. Let me know what you think.

0.4.2.5-test is working very well. I think you have taken so much input and tweaked so many things that there are myriad options that will make someone's experience be what they want.

MSFS unfortunately has so many permutations of variables that affect the system load (scenery type, PG, weather, time of day, aircraft, etc.) and everyone's system is so different, that the only way for people to use the "Easy button" would be for you to have a default configuration (I do like the loading defaults option) that will work with 99% of situations because it's so mild in terms of boosting performance.

You have given us the rope, and some, like Cpt_Piett and myself have chosen to use it to its fullest extent by pushing our systems more than they should be. The brilliance of the app is that it has different levels of automation (Auto FPS, FPS Sensitivity and FPS Tolerance) as well as so many useful settings in the Expert panel, that all you have to do is play around with it in your system and situation. I really like the addition as well of the VFR/IFR configuration settings differentiation, as I find that I sometimes needed to remember to switch some parameters when alternating between the modes.

I think you've done a great job with the readme, but you also know people don't usually RTFM...

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So far, app is working great for me, I flew 3 flights yesterday and it's having a great impact. Was flying the CRJ, and saw occasional stutters (hung for 5s or so) - unsure if this was due to changing LODs or just the *sigh* CRJ

Did run into what I think was this app causing a hang loading MSFS twice today though. Once on loading the airplane, which I figured was probably just the airplane, and then when I restarted it froze twice while loading the main menu. The second time, once I exited AutoFPS, it took about 5 seconds to start loading again after being hung for about 10 mins. 

May be a one-off and it's certainly not something I've tried to replicate yet since it just happened but thought I would report

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