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I have noticed that with DLSS on, my Fenix displays are pretty blurry.  I get good performance though and i don't get any outside shimmering in the distance or on airport objects.  With TAA on, I get sharp Fenix cockpit displays, good performance, but awful shimmering on airport objects and things in the distance.  Has Asobo said anything that will be done in the future to address any of this?  I have always used TAA, but the last 2 flights switched to DLSS and thought it looked better outside the plane.  I am on DX11 if that makes any difference.


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I use DLSS with DLAA, it helps slightly with the blurring. I agree, I see shimmering with TAA.

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Just now, Midnight Music said:

I use DLSS with DLAA, it helps slightly with the blurring. I agree, I see shimmering with TAA.

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Dumb question, how do you use DLSS with DLAA?  I only see one or the other in the settings


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48 minutes ago, Zimmerbz said:

Dumb question, how do you use DLSS with DLAA?  I only see one or the other in the settings

Never use the AA mode DLAA, that's an outdated post-processing AA (like FXAA). Use the AA mode DLSS with DLSS mode DLAA, which is something completely different (DLSS deep learning anti aliasing without the DLSS upscaling, so a quite big performance impact compared to TAA).

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15 minutes ago, touchdown84 said:

Never use the AA mode DLAA, that's an outdated post-processing AA (like FXAA). Use the AA mode DLSS with DLSS mode DLAA, which is something completely different (DLSS deep learning anti aliasing without the DLSS upscaling, so a quite big performance impact compared to TAA).

I don't think i have an option for DLSS with DLSS mode DLAA.  Is that in the sim or in Nvidia settings?  


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There is nothing in TAA that should result in shimmering -- unless you're over-sharpening the image. I use TAA at 4K with the in-sim sharpening option set to 70. The cockpit and ground scenery look perfect, with no blurring and no shimmering at all. Above 70, shimmering begins, and the higher you set the sharpening option above 70, the more shimmering you'll see.

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9 minutes ago, Zimmerbz said:

I don't think i have an option for DLSS with DLSS mode DLAA.  Is that in the sim or in Nvidia settings?  

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6 hours ago, touchdown84 said:

Never use the AA mode DLAA, that's an outdated post-processing AA (like FXAA). Use the AA mode DLSS with DLSS mode DLAA, which is something completely different (DLSS deep learning anti aliasing without the DLSS upscaling, so a quite big performance impact compared to TAA).

On my system the negative performance impact when using DLAA is enormous. And therefore DLAA is unusable. It was also unusable when I had a 3070 and Ryzen 5600 instead of now having 4070 and Ryzen 58003DX. DLAA has never been usable for me. Stutters, less than 1/2 the fps. Terrible. But DLSS Quality is smooth as glass and fps 75 to 105.

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Dx11 and TAA here... Even in dx12 with fsr3 fg I never liked DLSS.

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TAA for quality, DLSS if your GPU is the bottleneck.

DLSS / DLAA is deep learning AA at native resolution and does not bring any performance benefit.

Displays and water from low altitude will look bad in both cases and there is no remedy.

It's just a subpar implementation in this game, as well as DX12. 


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From the last Asobo Q&A it seems they forgot to put the fix they found for blurry cockpit screen with DLSS… hope that’s true and it makes to SU15

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DLSS is a mess. TAA all the way, the higher quality is very noticeable.

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I don't know...

I don't see any difference between DLSS / Quality, DLSS / DLAA and DLAA alone. None of them look 'blurry'. Maybe I don't know what to look for. This is in 4K. I have an RTX 4070 Ti Super. I'm glad, that they fixed the blurry fonts/displays with DLSS, though. Looks SO good.

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5 minutes ago, anden145 said:

I don't know...

I don't see any difference between DLSS / Quality, DLSS / DLAA and DLAA alone. None of them look 'blurry'. Maybe I don't know what to look for. This is in 4K. I have an RTX 4070 Ti Super. I'm glad, that they fixed the blurry fonts/displays with DLSS, though. Looks SO good.

Well that's strange.  They haven't fixed it yet.  

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8 minutes ago, anden145 said:

I don't know...

I don't see any difference between DLSS / Quality, DLSS / DLAA and DLAA alone. None of them look 'blurry'. Maybe I don't know what to look for. This is in 4K. I have an RTX 4070 Ti Super. I'm glad, that they fixed the blurry fonts/displays with DLSS, though. Looks SO good.

Same here. I think 4K is the key. 

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