9 hours ago, St Mawgan said:

1.05 now available -

Get it direct from the forum as always. 

Huh - no email notification sent. 

Many thanks for the tip - I know what I'm doing later on!

48 minutes ago, regis9 said:

I'm interested to hear from those that bought this how you're liking it now?  I was interested in it but the early reviews didn't sounds great.

Also wondering it it includes the standard Canadian livery?

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/6484116

Thanks

Absolutely LOVE it. Worth every penny. Would buy again.

FWIW, I have the IRIS Sims B/C version, as well as the AoA & FliteAdvantage versions in X-Plane.

IMHO this one is the best by a good margin, followed by the AoA. I think the AoA one needs a bit of work on the flight model - maybe too slick...? It's good, and if you're X-Plane only, worth it.

IRIS B is fun for the glass cockpit aspect, but if you hop out of that and into the BBS A model, you can really "feel" the difference in handling. You have to respect the BBS version or it will kill you 😉

16 hours ago, regis9 said:

Also wondering it it includes the standard Canadian livery?

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/6484116

Thanks

I flew the update last night and it does indeed include that livery!

Thanks for the info!  Will have to pick this one up, maybe after the incoming T-33 though 😀

Has anyone who owns this addon been able to properly trim the T6 laterally on the roll axis?  I have aileron trim sensitivity dialed all the way down via the tablet interface, and all of my control hardware is properly calibrated with center null zones to eliminate any possibility of control spiking on my end.  Proper technique with trimming the real T-6A is to first trim rudder, then elevator, and finally aileron if any roll moment to either side is still present after the rudder ball has been trimmed off in the center.  With the Blackbird T-6, however, I can't ever properly trim ailerons to keep the aircraft flying straight; trimming ailerons only lessens the roll moment in level flight but never eliminates it.  Again, I have the rudder trimmed off perfectly in level flight and I'm trying to use aileron trim to neutralize all remaining roll moment, but I can't no matter what I try. 

The only thing I can really do is use aileron trim to dampen out as much remaining roll moment after the rudder is trimmed as possible, then go back to using rudder trim to put the T-6 into a slight skid to eliminate residual roll moment.  On the real T-6 aircraft, the pilot should be able to trim off all roll moment with aileron trim after the rudder has been properly trimmed, but I find this quite impossible to accomplish with the Blackbird T-6.

My overall impression in that the way Blackbird have modeled aileron trim is too coarse, even with the tablet sensitivity slider set all the way to the left. 

Thanks to all who can offer any insight or advice!  

 

To answer my own question above about aileron trim sensitivity on the Blackbird T6A:  The only solution I've found is to unbind roll trim controller buttons altogether in the Blackbird T6 cockpit tablet setup page, but keep the roll trim sensitivity slider set all the way to the next.  Next, using Lorby AAO, bind Lorby's built-in 'high precision aileron trim set' parameter to left and right trim buttons on your controller device.  This will essentially increase the sensitivity resolution of your assigned controller trim buttons and allow very very small, precise aileron trim adjustment. 

Again, even though if no roll trim buttons are going to be assigned via Blackbird's Tablet Setup Page, Blackbird's roll trim sensitivity slider appears to still govern some sensitivity output to roll trim buttons assigned independently of the tablet, so the Tablet Roll Trim slider must still be set fully to the left, even with Lorby AAO assigned aileron trim buttons as described in the above paragraph. 

Without implementing Lorby AAO as described, I personally find it impossible to trim out roll moment in straight and level flight with the Blackbird T6 using any other method other than forcing the T6 into a skid with the rudder, which is both unrealistic and aerodynamically very inefficient (incurs a high drag penalty which reduces airspeed and significantly increases fuel burn). 

Finally, I'm extremely disappointed by Blackbird Simulation's lack of attention to what are small, easily fixable bugs like this with the T6A.  Even a moderately thorough beta testing process before release would have quickly identified the problem with aileron trim sensitivity and allowed developers to easily fix the issue.  I would furthermore counsel anyone considering buying a Blackbird Simulations product to wait several months after initial product release after customers themselves have had time to find all of the product bugs and list them on various forums, and then observe whether or not Blackbird ultimately fix the identified issues.  When customers bring up things like flight modeling behavior on the official Blackbird forum, they are far more likely to be blamed for using the wrong piloting technique rather than being taken seriously that something is possibly wrong with the flight dynamics instead.  This seems to be increasingly common with more and more MSFS2020 developers anymore. 

 

 

 

Edited October 17, 20241 yr by JillStanton

I think it's a great addon. Fly's very well for me and I can trim it out quite nicely. Easily the best Blackbird/Milviz aircraft. 

3 hours ago, St Mawgan said:

I think it's a great addon. Fly's very well for me and I can trim it out quite nicely. Easily the best Blackbird/Milviz aircraft. 

Really? You can easily trim off the rudder ball in the center, then use aileron trim to dampen out remaining roll moment?  If so, do you mind my asking what controller setup you have?  

1 hour ago, JillStanton said:

Really? You can easily trim off the rudder ball in the center, then use aileron trim to dampen out remaining roll moment?  If so, do you mind my asking what controller setup you have?  

Just my Hotas Warthog stick and throttle. Set up in MSFS, no external applications. I admit trim is a bit coarse but I can still bring her straight and level enough. 

3 hours ago, St Mawgan said:

Just my Hotas Warthog stick and throttle. Set up in MSFS, no external applications. I admit trim is a bit coarse but I can still bring her straight and level enough. 

Quite honestly, after more testing, not even Lorby's high precision aileron trim setting I mentioned will properly mitigate the Blackbird T-6 roll tendency in straight and level flight.  I'm sure this is subject to interpretation among different simmers, but if the aircraft can't be trimmed properly on all axes, precision instrument flight is just not possible without an autopilot or yaw damper implemented (which the real T-6 of course has neither). 

I can't recommend anyone purchasing the Blackbird T-6 unless you are willing to simply overlook issues like this.  Just my opinion. 

 

 

Edited October 17, 20241 yr by JillStanton

Sorry for your loss then. This is one of the most rewarding aircraft to fly in MSFS for me, with a bit of practise.  

4 hours ago, St Mawgan said:

Sorry for your loss then. This is one of the most rewarding aircraft to fly in MSFS for me, with a bit of practise.  

I'll get over one day.  😏  I'm willing to bet that you're using rudder trim incorrectly to compensate for whatever the root cause of roll instability is though on the Blackbird T6.  Look at the rudder ball on your turn coordinator and it's very likely to be skewed out of center significantly when you consider the aircraft trimmed properly and flying straight and level.  What you've done is put the T6 into a forced slip condition to compensate for the roll instability in straight and level cruise flight.  The rudder ball should be perfectly centered in the turn coordinator and aileron trim used to compensate for any remaining roll moment, but this is impossible with the Blackbird T6. 

I think most users would be better off never touching aileron trim and just forcing a slip condition with rudder alone, even though this isn't realistic. 

 

Edited October 17, 20241 yr by JillStanton

Ok boss. 

Does anyone know why this aircraft is posted as unavailable on the Blackbird website ? I’m curious if it’s a scenario like the T38C withdrawal or something else.

According to Discord it will be back but I don't know when. 

I've just installed it for the first time in MSFS2024 as it is fully functional in v1.5.0 and I'm loving it again. You can get the latest version on Discord or their forums if you bought it from them before.