Hello Guys !

Short Version: Wanted to check the more 'in depth' menus/settings in G1000 and realized many are STILL missing. Is this normal, are there alternatives ?  Am I overlooking something ?

 

Example: 'GPS Status': Not accessible.

I wanted to go deeper into MSFS2020 G1000 Settings - Checking Simulated Satellite Coverage - 'GPS Status' - for example.

( These Settings can be reached by: )

- FMS Controls ( Larger Knob ) in MFD:

    > 'Map, WPT, Aux, FPL, NRST.' :

        > 'Aux' alone has 8 'Sub Menus'

              > 'Trip Planning', 'Utility', 'GPS Status', 'System Setup', 'XM Radio', 'System Status', 'Connext Setup', 'Databases'.

 

- Even with Working Titles G1000 installed: Only ONE Option in AUX Menu - 'System Status' - is working.

Is this 'normal' - so few of these 'sub' menu entries being not available ?

Are we stuck with this limited version of the G1000 in MSFS for now ?

Are there actual 'complete' versions of the G1000 for MSFS anyone here might be aware of ?

 

I know there is a G3000 Version in MSFS featuring some of these additional Menus:

 Tested 'FlighFX SF50 Vision Jet G2' : 'GPS Status' is simulated there.

 

Haven't gone into more detailed settings on the G1000 in years and doing so now realizing and very surprised that MSFS being out for almost half a decade still has one of the most used glass cockpit avionics in still such an incomplete state ?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 13, 20241 yr by Tommy_1

You are correct.🍺 I'll go further in saying the engine page in the default Diamonds (to name a few) is missing.  That's a big one considering the real world checks that have to be done. No aircraft with a G1000 should be missing the engine page.  WT made the option configurable where some third party aircraft have it.  Not sure who's this on for the default birds.🧐

Thank you for the reply - so I am not alone on this.

I wasn't even aware the Real-World G1000 in the Diamonds has a dedicated Engine Page !

 

6 hours ago, Dillon said:

I'll go further in saying the engine page in the default Diamonds (to name a few) is missing. That's a big one considering the real world checks that have to be done.

as a real flyer of DA40s with G1000, what is actually missing?
Engine parameters are there
Electrical is there
Fuel/oil/coolants are there

Yes menus are not 100% correct, but all indications for safely operating the plane are there?

It's just that it has the older style G1000 layout with the different submenus - Default, System, Fuel ("LEAN" in MSFS DA40NG) instead of the single "Engine"-page which consolidates the aforementioned pages found in a DA40 G1000 NXI.

 

Edited August 13, 20241 yr by SAS443

24 minutes ago, SAS443 said:

as a real flyer of DA40s with G1000, what is actually missing?

In the DA40NG my son has been flying we have an engine page that's accessed to complete the checklist.  It's just like the updated Cirrus which has it now in MSFS. Yes, you can get around it for basic checks but if the real bird has the page so should the WT version.😐

 

Edited August 13, 20241 yr by Dillon

14 minutes ago, Dillon said:

In the DA40NG my son has been flying we have an engine page that's accessed to complete the checklist.  It's just like the updated Cirrus which has it now in MSFS. Yes, you can get around it for basic checks but if the real bird has the page so should the WT version.😐

 

Not all DA40 owners bothers with those chklist.ace-files (thats the name of Garmins checklist files), and I've flown planes with them and without them.

Just find a pdf Checklist, geez....

 

 

Edited August 13, 20241 yr by SAS443

Thankfully WT have priorities and have the right priorities.

They could have developers spend a year or more on fully building out all G1000 pages.

Or they could have put that on the back burner and focused 100% on the new In Sim Route Planner, Fuel and Payload calcs And Charts.

That was the right choice.

I have no idea what WT's priorities are but there is nothing against asking for more features even if that means that other peoples whishes are delayed.

I hardly fly jet liners so I dont care what kind of stuff is developed for them, I do understand however that I'm not always first in line

14 hours ago, SAS443 said:

Not all DA40 owners bothers with those chklist.ace-files (thats the name of Garmins checklist files), and I've flown planes with them and without them.

Just find a pdf Checklist, geez....

I was going to let this go as I actually agree with what you said here until the last 'geez' part.😐  Every page in the Garmin suite for an aircraft is there for a reason.  It's just like saying, 'You don't need to put the fuel cap back on your car after getting gas because the gas wouldn't leak out anyway when you drive down the road'.  What kind of logic is that as a pilot? Checklists are there for a reason.  When you go to the run-up area you should check everything the manufacture tells you to check (in the way they tell you how to check it).  Do you know how many accidents and deaths have happened because of pilots cutting corners?  That's crazy as a pilot you would suggest something like that in the real world.  We are just simming here but the goal (to some not on XBOX) is to simulate the real aircraft and it's systems.

That being said WT did amazing work with their Garmin implementation in MSFS. No one is taking anything from them and we all owe them a debt of gratitude to do this kind of work for no extra charge (even before MS brought them officially on board).  I'll go further in saying they've opened the code for third party developers to add pages they would like in their models (COWS DA42 is an example of this).  WT even went so far as to add more pages to the update Cirrus SR22T. WT has been amazing on the Garmin front. The original poster made a valid observation with some aircraft which is no slam on WT in which I agree with.  No offense should be taken requiring a response like this.😶  

@Dillon

Just use a paper checklist. It is provided by the manufacturer. And also what I suggested.

Edited August 14, 20241 yr by SAS443

5 hours ago, SAS443 said:

@Dillon

Just use a paper checklist. It is provided by the manufacturer. And also what I suggested.

What do VR fliers do? For us electronic checklists are the better option.

 

Or we could just say: What do we need checklists for? Failures are not simulated anyway, so why just don't we treat this as driving a car, hop in a fly away and forget about checklists? 😉

12 hours ago, Farlis said:

What do VR fliers do? For us electronic checklists are the better option.

This was never about VR.

This was about uninformed opinion that  the engine page is "missing", which it isn't.

42 minutes ago, SAS443 said:

This was never about VR.

This was about uninformed opinion that  the engine page is "missing", which it isn't.

The full engine page is indeed missing from default aircraft and the VR point is very much valid.🧐

4 hours ago, Dillon said:

and the VR point is very much valid.

Apparently real G1000's without checklists do exist, so it is 100% realistic to use an alternative like checklists from the sim menu (for which the aircraft dev is in charge to provide) which even work in VR.

So the 'Working Title' G1000 is currently the 'most complete' working G1000 in MSFS ?

I understand WT prioritized key aspects that make it ( more ) functional.

But is it really that hard and/or time-consuming to create a completely simulated G1000 in MSFS ?

Anyways - Hopes up for 'MSFS2024' to maybe feature an actually complete G1000 :)