21 hours ago, sd_flyer said:

Please help me to understand how the relevant to the original topic?

LOL...

On 9/23/2024 at 5:09 PM, tmholopa said:

i t seems that the world buildings and photogrammetry isnt updated and how about textures, are they lagging behind. I think msfs2024 is not going to get much new simmers, they want something new and that aint flightmodel and flying scrubs. I mean normal gamers, sunglasses aint enuff i think.

Eh?!

On 9/23/2024 at 5:09 PM, tmholopa said:

i t seems that the world buildings and photogrammetry isnt updated and how about textures, are they lagging behind. I think msfs2024 is not going to get much new simmers, they want something new and that aint flightmodel and flying scrubs. I mean normal gamers, sunglasses aint enuff i think.

................................................Eh?!

On 9/23/2024 at 12:09 PM, tmholopa said:

i t seems that the world buildings and photogrammetry isnt updated and how about textures, are they lagging behind. I think msfs2024 is not going to get much new simmers, they want something new and that aint flightmodel and flying scrubs. I mean normal gamers, sunglasses aint enuff i think.

Can someone translate this for me?

Presumably @tmholopa posted in the wrong thread? 🙂 

Not the best of reviews. Thats a shame.

AirFoil Labs, who have two Study Level add-ons in XP (a C172 and KA 350), released an addon for v2020 about a year ago...?

Didn't ever seem to get any traction and the reviews were meh, IIRC.

JRollon, who collaborated with SimCoders to bring an extremely Hi Fi Marchetti SF260 to X-Plane, was bringing it to MSFS al.ost from the get-go. He published videos of it flying in MSFS a couple years ago.

since then, nada.

Seems like only a few devs have been willing AND able to make the jump.

And yet justflight and thrandra seemed to do ok converting the other FS to XP.

Perhaps  its a one way street, although of cause I’m forgetting inibuilds 

16 minutes ago, jon b said:

And yet justflight and thrandra seemed to do ok converting the other FS to XP.

Perhaps  its a one way street, although of cause I’m forgetting inibuilds 

Yeah, it's a complicated situation for everyone.

Thranda used to do conversions for Carenado, but there was some sort of falling out between them. Seemed to be about production pace vs quality, etc.

Thranda have said that they actually lost money on the JF BAe 146 conversion.

And JF have said that the XP market isn't great for them.

Some XP devs have done very well in MSFS, both in terms of quality and revenue. IniBuilds and Flying Iron Sims come to mind. Both are highly regarded in their verticals.

Cowan Sims (helicopters) has jumped, but their helos simply aren't as good as they were in XP. To the point I probably won't buy another of theirs.

Whereas Taogs and Fly Inside have done rather well coming at it fresh from "nowhere".

Devs essentially have to learn an entirely new programming language to hop from one sim to another (regardless of which to where).

And most are reluctant to do so, and perhaps can't make the jump? MilViz and PMDG both failed at bringing their add-ons to X-Plane...

I’m both sad to see some of the legacy cottage industry style developers faltering in various was ,and yet excited by the incredible stuff the new comers are bringing to the table.

Our hobby is practically unrecognisable from where we were in 2019, (mind you the same could be said for the world as a whole I suppose)

12 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Sí, es una situación complicada para todos.

Thranda solía hacer conversiones para Carenado, pero hubo algún tipo de desacuerdo entre ellos. Parecía que se debía al ritmo de producción versus la calidad, etc.

Thranda ha dicho que en realidad perdió dinero con la conversión del JF BAe 146.

Y JF ha dicho que el mercado de XP no es bueno para ellos.

Algunos desarrolladores de XP lo han hecho muy bien en MSFS, tanto en términos de calidad como de ingresos. Me vengo a la mente IniBuilds y Flying Iron Sims. Ambos son muy valorados en sus respectivos sectores.

Cowan Sims (helicópteros) ha dado el salto, pero sus helicópteros simplemente no son tan buenos como lo eran en XP. Hasta el punto de que probablemente no volveré a comprar uno de ellos.

Mientras que Taogs y Fly Inside lo han hecho bastante bien, llegando desde "la nada".

Los desarrolladores básicamente tienen que aprender un lenguaje de programación completamente nuevo para pasar de un simulador a otro (sin importar cuál o dónde).

Y la mayoría se muestra reacciona a hacerlo y quizás no pueda dar el salto. Tanto MilViz como PMDG fracasaron en su intento de incorporar sus complementos a X-Plane...

PMDG has problems where they go from what I see, it is a studio that should consider new ways of working. On the DC6 it has taken years to correct critical errors for many of us and reading the problems that people have with the 737 since they practically launched it....

Edited September 25, 20241 yr by Aglos77