October 18, 20241 yr 46 minutes ago, Farlis said: From what I understand MiniFCU is better. It actually has the same amount of optical sensors as the real one and therefore manipulating the dials is true to the real world counterpart. The WinWing FCU does not have this. It's just that the MiniFCU is not to size but instead shrunk to 80%. And they continuously seem to underestimate demand, as it regularly sells out and then you have to wait months until they produce enough new ones for it to be in stock again. Well I had both (not from hear saying) used both and for the record there is no differences in use in the sim sold my miniFCU (EFIS L/R) ordered and awaiting payment and delivery notice. André
October 18, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Farlis said: From what I understand MiniFCU is better. It actually has the same amount of optical sensors as the real one and therefore manipulating the dials is true to the real world counterpart. The WinWing FCU does not have this. It's just that the MiniFCU is not to size but instead shrunk to 80%. And they continuously seem to underestimate demand, as it regularly sells out and then you have to wait months until they produce enough new ones for it to be in stock again. I have both. Designs are very different but build quality feels comparable. They're both great imo but I prefer the WinWings version, mainly for the bigger size and because the form factor (a thin-ish panel) suits my setup better. If one of them has more verisimilitude than the other from the point of view of "clicks-per-1000" or whatever, it's imperceptible to me. Edited October 18, 20241 yr by tfm 14900ks, RTX4090, 64Gb@6000-30-36-36-T2, Samsung 990Pro 2Tb , Dell G3223Q 32" 4k Gsync + 27" secondary monitor. Thrustmaster Airbus Edition throttles etc, TPR pedals, MiniCockpit FCU, WinWings FCU, WinWings Orion 2 F15E, WinWings A320 sticks.
October 18, 20241 yr I'm really pleased with the WinWing FCU and also have the EFIS on order - should arrive Monday. It was completely plug and play with the Fenix A320. The only minor worry I have is the durability of the pull knobs - I've heard some stories of the springs going in them over time. Tom Wright, UK PPL(A) SEP + Night Rating + IMC/IR(R) Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM | 16GB RTX 4080 Super | 2x 2TB Samsung 990 PRO M.2 | Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Sidestick + Quadrant | Logitech G Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals | WinCTRL Airbus FCU + EFIS + MCDU
October 18, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Tom Wright said: The only minor worry I have is the durability of the pull knobs - I've heard some stories of the springs going in them over time. That's concerning. The WinWing FCU has only been around since March this year. Was thinking of changing to WinWing as miniCockpit has gone quiet on their EFIS & other modules, and is regularly sold out of their FCU. AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
October 18, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, F737MAX said: That's concerning. The WinWing FCU has only been around since March this year. Was thinking of changing to WinWing as miniCockpit has gone quiet on their EFIS & other modules, and is regularly sold out of their FCU. miniFCU has issues to, both good products and time will tell... MiniFCU is great when you have small space, but what I like from the winwing is the 1:1 ratio Time will tell how it will holdup in flightsim usage, but that goes for both products... André
October 18, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, virtualstuff said: MiniFCU is great when you have small space Not sure I agree with that. The miniFCU might be only 80% of the real size in width and height, but it's a proper chunky boy in the depth dimension. The WinWing has a shallow profile and has the added benefit of being 'full sized'. I'd like to swap over to WinWing due to better availability of new modules. But with springs failing on dials after just 6 months isn't convincing me when the miniFCU is still holding up nicely. AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
October 18, 20241 yr Author Pulled the trigger on the WinWing, as I think the Mobi/flightsim.to integration will be helpful for me with the planes I fly. (btw, as noted the miniFCU is still sold out). I'll give an update on how long it takes to receive and impressions on setting up. Edited October 18, 20241 yr by caneman
October 18, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, F737MAX said: Not sure I agree with that. The miniFCU might be only 80% of the real size in width and height, but it's a proper chunky boy in the depth dimension. The WinWing has a shallow profile and has the added benefit of being 'full sized'. I'd like to swap over to WinWing due to better availability of new modules. But with springs failing on dials after just 6 months isn't convincing me when the miniFCU is still holding up nicely. Well I have gone the winwing route as I said above in my reply and miniFCU has it's own problems with units sent back... and the depth of the miniFCU wasn't a problem on my desk... (it was all mini 🤣) Waiting now for L/R EFIS to complete that part... But if you have not much desk space then I still think the miniFCU is good alternative. Edited October 18, 20241 yr by virtualstuff André
October 26, 20241 yr Author So, just a quick follow-up as promised. - Received my WinWing FCU Unit1. Arrived 6 business days after ordering. Packaging was very good and the unit is a nice size and quality. Just plugged in the UBS and it was ready to go. Used a bit of double sided Velcro tape and it is now sitting atop my Alpha yoke. Treated right, don't see any reason why this unit shouldn't last for quite a while. - Did a quick download of the SimApp to make sure the firmware was up to date (then turned it off), and downloaded MobiFlight. - Spent about 30 minutes playing with MobiFlight and watched a couple of videos to get the hang of it. - Within 45 minutes I had a bunch of profiles for planes I like to fly from Flightsim.to, and even started to do a bit of custom programming myself. Loading the profiles is super simple. No offense to those who enjoy Spad.Next, but I'll never go back. I own a Mulitpanel (if anyone wants one for a song, let me know) and always felt like you needed advanced programming/coding skills to use Spad.Next. Huge complex learning curve and it was very hit or miss as to whether it would work or not. MobiFlight seems so far to be just as useful (if not more) for programming peripherals - far more easy to use and a much much better UI. So not a spokesperson here, but if you were on the fence and considering either the WinWing Unit or Mobiflight I can highly recommend. Edited October 26, 20241 yr by caneman
October 26, 20241 yr 36 minutes ago, caneman said: No offense to those who enjoy Spad.Next, but I'll never go back. I own a Mulitpanel (if anyone wants one for a song, let me know) and always felt like you needed advanced programming/coding skills to use Spad.Next. Huge complex learning curve and it was very hit or miss as to whether it would work or not. MobiFlight seems so far to be just as useful (if not more) for programming peripherals - far more easy to use and a much much better UI. So not a spokesperson here, but if you were on the fence and considering either the WinWing Unit or Mobiflight I can highly recommend. learning curve on spad.next is high yes. But a tremendous community discord. Once you get the hang of it (IMHO), it is far more powerful. I've also not found it hit or miss. If the programming is correct, it works. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
October 26, 20241 yr Author For someone considering Spad, that's exactly where I'd send them - over to the discord channel. 😆 It's like a giant IT convention. It would not surprise me if the majority of those folks spent most of their time programming and trying to code Spad, than flying. I'd also tell a noob to watch a few videos on LVARS, BVARS, H:Events and see what they think. Not simple by any stretch. But, I will agree with you. If you can put in the time and effort to learn it (and have the aptitude) it can be a powerful tool. I did find a few planes that with the multipanel and Spad, just never worked (my "hit and miss"). And one other nice feature. MobiFlight is free, Spad is a subscription. To each his own and glad we have choices!
October 27, 20241 yr WOW , there is a profile for the MaddogX. Didnt think about this. Gonna try that out Great stuff Michael Moe Michael Moe
October 27, 20241 yr Author Yes on Flightsim.to there are profiles for the Maddog, both for the FCU and MiniFCU. Just search MobiFlight from the home page and you’ll find profiles for many of the popular 3rd party airliners. Also includes easy instructions on how to download, setup and run. Not hard at all.
November 2, 20241 yr Sometimes i need to stop/start the MaddogX profile to work proper. Is this normal? Thanks Michael Moe Michael Moe
November 4, 20241 yr Author Michael, On the very bottom of the MobiFlight menu, there are three click spots (modules, sim status and aircraft). Afetr you loaded the Maddog profile for your aircraft, click on the aircraft click spot and then click "link current configuration". You can then click "auto-load config". Hopefully once you start MobiFlight, that should prevent you from having to restart to get the Maddog profile working.
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