So if I understand correctly 

Compatible Products - Just straight 2020 versions, no new 2024 features

Enhanced Products - 2020 products but enhanced with new 2024 features

Premium Products - Either a significant update or completely rebuilt from the ground up

Edited November 8, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

20 minutes ago, SP2472 said:

Glad IniBuilds spilled the beans, now if other developers would do so...

Btw, this includes Microsoft...info on Airplanes but nothing on Enhanced Airports except JFK and Aspen.

Darryl

We've seen footage of some of the other handcrafted airports either in the trailers or from the Grand Canyon fotoage. For example St. Barths actually has proper ground markings now, Lake Taho has proper ground markings, new static vehicle models and possibly revised parking spots.

There were also glimpses at a new Innsbruck from Gaya in the Grand Canyon presentation, which appears to be the payware one they announced a couple years ago but went silent on.

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8 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

So if I understand correctly 

Compatible Products - Just straight 2020 versions, no new 2024 features

Enhanced Products - 2020 products but enhanced with new 2024 features

Premium Products - Either a significant update or completely rebuilt from the ground up

That's how i understood it.

Can we have a sticky thread like 2024 dev infos or so  in this forum with a link to this thread?

have all the infos about the different devs and their 2024 update and price policy would be handy.

 

A300:  I'm totally ok paying for more features since it's one of my favorite planes.  But I'm super hoping they have more than some of the features they listed.  

Not sure about you guys, but I have pretty close to zero interest in:

-Exterior interactions

-Covers

-Pax seat navigation graphs. 

-career mode.  

 

Enhanced graphics are welcome though.  It would be super disappointing if they call it premium, yet fail to embrace the new 2024 working windshield wipers.  

4 minutes ago, micstatic said:

A300:  I'm totally ok paying for more features since it's one of my favorite planes.  But I'm super hoping they have more than some of the features they listed.  

Not sure about you guys, but I have pretty close to zero interest in:

-Exterior interactions

-Covers

-Pax seat navigation graphs. 

-career mode.  

 

Enhanced graphics are welcome though.  It would be super disappointing if they call it premium, yet fail to embrace the new 2024 working windshield wipers.  

Same. If it’s a better FM as a result of the FM changes, that would be enough for me to shell out the $10. Or significantly better art (but there’s not much to improve…)

Current feature list isn’t compelling. 

13 minutes ago, micstatic said:

But I'm super hoping they have more than some of the features they listed. 

It says in the post there's more than just that. They just didn't list everything, I imagine that list will come when it releases.

 

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We will also be releasing an iniBuilds A300-600R Airliner Premium version for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024. This will have a host of new features targeted at new MSFS 2024 features such as exterior interactions, covers, navigation graphs for passenger seating positions, career mode capability for marketplace, a new flight model aimed at MSFS 2024, dirt, wear and tear, new effects and many more improvements and fixes. 

  

7 minutes ago, mspencer said:

Same. If it’s a better FM as a result of the FM changes, that would be enough for me to shell out the $10. Or significantly better art (but there’s not much to improve…)

Current feature list isn’t compelling. 

A new flight model is mentioned in the post, that also isn't the full list of features/improvements.

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Interesting to see this released, didn’t Microsoft say anything purchased in the Marketplace would work for free in 2024?

I would take from that statement that if the airport works in 2020 you should be able to port it over to 2024 yourself, or do I have that wrong?

I feel like I’m going to have an addon thinning out if everything requires an upgrade fee.  There’s a lot of stuff I bought for 2020 on a whim that I don’t use much so I’ll have to consider that carefully.

2 minutes ago, regis9 said:

Interesting to see this released, didn’t Microsoft say anything purchased in the Marketplace would work for free in 2024?

I would take from that statement that if the airport works in 2020 you should be able to port it over to 2024 yourself, or do I have that wrong?

I feel like I’m going to have an addon thinning out if everything requires an upgrade fee.  There’s a lot of stuff I bought for 2020 on a whim that I don’t use much so I’ll have to consider that carefully.

Very true on all accounts.  It's also going to be tough to police and track what devs are actually substantially updating their scenery vs those who claim they are just to get a fee.  

13 minutes ago, regis9 said:

Interesting to see this released, didn’t Microsoft say anything purchased in the Marketplace would work for free in 2024?

I would take from that statement that if the airport works in 2020 you should be able to port it over to 2024 yourself, or do I have that wrong?

Yes, and that hasn't changed. 

Edited November 8, 20241 yr by Tuskin38

13 minutes ago, micstatic said:

Very true on all accounts.  It's also going to be tough to police and track what devs are actually substantially updating their scenery vs those who claim they are just to get a fee.  

Raul from FSReborn made a post on how they can't just do that with the new SDK

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/3rd-party-new-2024-plane-fully-priced-plane-instead-of-upgraded-plane/662859/73?u=tuskin38

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12 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Raul from FSReborn made a post on how they can't just do that with the new SDK

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/3rd-party-new-2024-plane-fully-priced-plane-instead-of-upgraded-plane/662859/73?u=tuskin38

This only speaks about aircraft, not scenery

Ultimately, if you don't trust a developer not to scam you, perhaps you shouldn't buy their products. 

One thing for sure, i wont be paying to have any unfinished 2020 aircraft ie still not being able to use Lnav or Vnav, otherwise i can see months nice shiny outsides, yet the word not allowed thing still cannot navigate properly... You know who they are.

I guess I’m confused then.  I see ini announcing a stream of compatible airports, does that mean they’re not all automatically compatible?  Or is the difference that Microsoft idle forcing those on the marketplace to sell versions that are forward compatible?  I think Ini sells airports on the marketplace?  I get having to pay for extra features / new versions, it’s porting the 2020 versions that’s confusing me