November 8, 20241 yr I'm still very curious on how "old" MSFS airports will work with 2024... I have a bunch of them, can i just use them, will they need updates? This sort of questions. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
November 8, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said: I'm still very curious on how "old" MSFS airports will work with 2024... I have a bunch of them, can i just use them, will they need updates? This sort of questions. They should work, that is what Microsoft promised as can still be read on their announcement page. But... there could be issues caused by the underlying mesh being different or the transition to the default terrain can be horrible. Since addons don't have seasons they might not fit the season of the surrounding area. Some of these problems were also apparent after releases of a new WU. I guess that's were the "compatible" category could come in: just making sure that the airport matches the underlying mesh etc. Flightsim rig: CPU: AMD 5900x | Mobo: MSI X570 MEG Unify | RAM: 32GB G.Skill Trident Z Neo | GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3090 | Storage: M.2 (2 & 4 TB) | PSU: Corsair RM850x | Case: Fractal Define 7 XL Display: Acer Predator x34 3440x1440 | Speakers: Logitech Z906 Controllers: Fulcrum One Yoke | MFG Crosswind v2 pedals | Honeycomb Bravo Quadrant |Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant | Stream Deck XL & Plus | TrackIR 5 Tobii eye tracking
November 8, 20241 yr 47 minutes ago, regis9 said: it’s porting the 2020 versions that’s confusing me Back in July, iniBuilds said: Quote We have decided that most of our library will be updated free of charge; this will be all products released in 2024 and most in 2023 but there are a select few products that will have entirely new versions made from scratch. Rest assured all current owners will receive a discount on the new versions (which will be significantly better than their predecessors). Per the image on their forum post, EGHI, LPPD, and EGSS were all released in 2023, EGGW and LOWI were released in 2024. These 5 airports have all been designated as free / 'ported' updates. LEIB (pre-2023) and KPSP (2023) are designated as cheap paid updates. I wrote about their full scenery list and when they were each released here. So, iniBuilds were true to form in the follow-up to their forum post from July. Edited November 8, 20241 yr by F737MAX AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
November 8, 20241 yr Author 1 hour ago, regis9 said: I guess I’m confused then. I see ini announcing a stream of compatible airports, does that mean they’re not all automatically compatible? Or is the difference that Microsoft idle forcing those on the marketplace to sell versions that are forward compatible? I think Ini sells airports on the marketplace? I get having to pay for extra features / new versions, it’s porting the 2020 versions that’s confusing me Compatible ones are airports/aircraft that have a bit extra updates to make sure they work 100% properly. That ini have confirmed are working
November 8, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, mspencer said: Wish I could delete block quotes on my phone... 5 hours ago, Tuskin38 said: https://forum.inibuilds.com/topic/23967-inibuilds-product-strategy-plans-for-microsoft-flight-simulator-2024/ No free upgrades for 2024. upgrade fee for 2020 owners, upgrade price depends on the product That's not entirely correct. They're offering varying levels: a straight compatibility port will be free (e.g., the v2020 A300). But if you want the new flight model and other v2024 features, it's a 30% upgrade fee. Which isn't too bad as long as they deliver the extensive list of additional functionality.
November 8, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, UAL4life said: And you can expect this behavior from 99% of developers. I kinda hope so. I don't really want to pay compatibility fees for everything I already own... BUT if the upgrade includes all the new features of v2024, then it's reasonable.
November 8, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, regis9 said: Interesting to see this released, didn’t Microsoft say anything purchased in the Marketplace would work for free in 2024? I would take from that statement that if the airport works in 2020 you should be able to port it over to 2024 yourself, or do I have that wrong? I feel like I’m going to have an addon thinning out if everything requires an upgrade fee. There’s a lot of stuff I bought for 2020 on a whim that I don’t use much so I’ll have to consider that carefully. I think you're right on all counts. MS said everything should work as is (presuming the developer followed proper practices)... BUT to get ALL the new features will require new code, at significant man hours to the devs. I hope most devs follow iB's example of tiered compatibility.
November 8, 20241 yr Author 37 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said: That's not entirely correct. Yes it is. Upgrades cost, compatibility doesn’t.
November 8, 20241 yr No go for me, at all... Good luck! Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
November 8, 20241 yr 4 hours ago, regis9 said: I feel like I’m going to have an addon thinning out if everything requires an upgrade fee. There’s a lot of stuff I bought for 2020 on a whim that I don’t use much so I’ll have to consider that carefully. Yea, I have a bunch of airports that I purchased thinking I would fly there but never have, or have once or twice in 2 years. I won't pay anything further to upgrade these and am happy let them go. Even some of the aircraft I have I would likely not pay more for again. I actually appreciate the opportunity to review all the addons, I will be much more careful in my purchasing choices in 2024. MSFS 2024. Primary Planes: Black Square TBM850, Duke, Baron, Caravan; A2A Comanche; FSReborn Phenom; Fexix A321; PMDG 737-7, 777: Utilities: Active Sky (Passive Mode); BATC, FSLTL.
November 9, 20241 yr Wondering what edition Nadi NFFN and Queenstown NZQN be-just compatible editions I'm guessing. Pumped for ini's take on YBBN-with some airside interior detailing missing from ORBX's one. Edited November 9, 20241 yr by amsfsx02501 MacBook Neo: A18 Pro with 6-core processor and 5-core graphics 8GB Unified Memory, macOS Tahoe, X-Plane 12 (12.40). Mac mini: M4 chip with 10 core processor, 10 core graphics, 16 GB Unified Memory, 256GB SSD, macOS Tahoe, X-Plane 12 (12.40), X-Plane 11 (11.55). Lenovo Legion 5 16IRX9: Intel Core i9-14900HX, 32GB DDR5-4800 RAM, 1TB Micron NVMe SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB GPU and Intel UHD Graphics 16EU iGPU, Windows 11 Home, MSFS 2024 and 2020, X-Plane 12 (12.40), X-Plane 11 (11.55) and Lenovo LOQ 15 15IAX9: Intel Core i5-12450HX, 24GB DDR5-4800 RAM, 1TB Solidigm NVMe SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2050 4GB GPU and Intel UHD Graphics 16EU iGPU, Windows 11 Home, MSFS 2024 and 2020, XX-Plane 12 (12.40), X-Plane 11 (11.55). Alienware m15 R7: Intel Core i7-12700H, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Ti 8GB, Windows 11 Home, MSFS 2024 and 2020, X-Plane 12 (12.40), X-Plane 11 (11.55).
November 9, 20241 yr Author From the Discord So the compatible ones have been worked on to be usable in 2024. Not just moved over to 2024 Edited November 9, 20241 yr by Tuskin38
November 9, 20241 yr 5 hours ago, Tuskin38 said: Raul from FSReborn made a post on how they can't just do that with the new SDK https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/3rd-party-new-2024-plane-fully-priced-plane-instead-of-upgraded-plane/662859/73?u=tuskin38 As always Raul calls it straight up. My MSFS 2020 repaints: Flightsim.to - Profile of HStreet Working on MSFS 2024 versions.
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