14 minutes ago, peloto said:

This post can be deleted, sorry. Would be good that possibility by our own.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

3 hours ago, strider1 said:

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Oh, enlighten us, with your only valid opinion and supreme sapience and experience, and VR dogma settings and visual quality, that all must enjoy and have fixed in options and preferences. Thanks.

Curious about the refresh rates of the PCL:  120 vs 90 vs 72 vs 60.  60 on the G2 is an instant headache and I can't imagine that it'd be that much different on the PCL, at least for me.  Is 90 the sweet spot?  I imagine with that rate that with MSFS running at a solid fps limit of 45 the PCL would yield very good smoothness.  At 120 using a 60 fps limit should even be better, but getting a solid 60 in MSFS might require too many other compromises to make it worthwhile.   Any PCL owners care to share their experiences with the refresh rates, thanks.

Edited November 13, 20241 yr by TheFamilyMan

On 11/13/2024 at 6:22 AM, TheFamilyMan said:

Curious about the refresh rates of the PCL:  120 vs 90 vs 72 vs 60.  60 on the G2 is an instant headache and I can't imagine that it'd be that much different on the PCL, at least for me.  Is 90 the sweet spot?  I imagine with that rate that with MSFS running at a solid fps limit of 45 the PCL would yield very good smoothness.  At 120 using a 60 fps limit should even be better, but getting a solid 60 in MSFS might require too many other compromises to make it worthwhile.   Any PCL owners care to share their experiences with the refresh rates, thanks.

Yes - for me, and I would rate my rig as medium for what I currently run on it, 90 is definitely the sweet spot.  Above 90 is stutter-fest, but surprisingly 72, while OK, is nowhere near as smooth as 90. 

I have used many of the tips and tricks that that @Dillon outlined on his other threads, and I think he found the same too which is probably where I got the idea to try it?

Bear in mind, of course, that everything affects everything - so it could be just a result of what other settings and load I'm running with.

Edited November 14, 20241 yr by AJZip

Nice that Pimax has a setting for the 1/2 refresh rate application FPS limit.  That is actually an important setting for achieving consistent smoothness, you can read why this is so here and here .  One detail that that you mentioned is that you shouldn't use "prefer frame rate of over latency".  This enables VR turbo mode, which more or less disables the enforcement of the application's fixed framerate alignment to the HMD's refresh frequency.  This may increase FPS somewhat but opens the door to judder (according to mbucchia's excellent post).  I'm surprised that the VR Flight Sim Guy shows using this setting (or maybe that's been recanted by a later post).

Dang, I am so looking forward to upgrading my G2 to a PCL when all my HW upgrade gears align next year.

Edited November 15, 20241 yr by TheFamilyMan

57 minutes ago, TheFamilyMan said:

Dang, I am so looking forward to upgrading my G2 to a PCL when all my HW upgrade gears align next year.  

I too am looking forward to getting a dedicated VR setup using the PCL as I was a heavy VR user prior with the G2 and RiftS.  Even more now that MSFS is being considered to fully embrace the PCL and it wont be all this patch work stuff to have the two play together. Helos in Gliders in VR are a great way enjoy VR and a limited amount of hardware controllers. 

I don't think I'll be a able to swing a hardware AND VR upgrade (as a responsible adult with kids LOL) in 2025.  But maybe a the CL is possible... hardware 2026 or 27 is a potential