Is there any history of LM breaking addons after updating P3D? I am afraid with no support for their P3D addons from PMDG, if this happens again, I''ll be screwed, like many others.

2 minutes ago, V_Pilot said:

I heard they removed their P3D addons because keeping them sold on their website cost them more than they were selling. But this might not also be true. I think this is all in their business model. I think they are legacy addons now.

I read that too and remained sceptical. It made no sense. They remain excellent aircraft and support is still available on their forums.

1 minute ago, V_Pilot said:

Is there any history of LM breaking addons after updating P3D? I am afraid with no support for their P3D addons from PMDG, if this happens again, I''ll be screwed, like many others.

If you stay with v5 then no. If you buy v6 then yes, there’s a risk things may not work as they’re designed for v5. LM won’t be releasing any more updates for v5. That ship has sailed.

12 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Then why are you here talking about a “dead” sim? The OP talked about P3Dv5.  He expressed no interest in buying MSFS.

Ray, why you attack me for giving my opinion ? - you are Moderator here, so you should be open minded person.

2 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

If you stay with v5 then no.

This is great news!

I like how P3Dv5 looks (with Orbx and REX, at least). I like PMDG's graphics for 777-747, though you can definitely see how they perfected it with 748 expansion. If nothing changes and stops these addons from working, then I assume you can safely say, that you have simulation experience for life.

1 minute ago, Beardyman said:

Ray, why you attack me for giving my opinion ? - you are Moderator here, so you should be open minded person.

I’m not “attacking” you. This is the P3D forum. If the OP was interested in MSFS he would have posted in that forum.

This applies to anyone recommending another sim. The OP has not asked about any other sims. Any such posts will be hidden as off topic.

4 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

If the OP was interested in MSFS he would have posted in that forum.

OP is asking/wondering if buying P3D5 still makes any sense, so i understand that he is considering other options.

 

9 minutes ago, Beardyman said:

OP is asking/wondering if buying P3D5 still makes any sense, so i understand that he is considering other options.

 

I own MSFS2020 and XP11/12 and have a ton of addons for both.

2 hours ago, spilok said:

If P3d is practically dead, then I love flying this dead sim every single day

And that is great ! I also still have P3D5 but use it less and less.

By saying it is 'dead sim' i meant that there is no active development ongoing - no service packs, and new planes and airports are almost not coming anymore.

I fly primarily in p3dv5 and enjoy it for the most part.  Sure the graphics aren’t as great as msfs, but the payware planes I fly are fantastic. Really great selection out there for P3dv5.

As mentioned previously, it is a costly investment to get P3d to the level that I’d want it to be.  

@V_Pilot, are you not tempted by FS Labs Concorde?

23 miles a minute flying 11 miles up? Overtaking Boeing and Airbus aircraft at Mach 1.15. Faster than their ground speed. 😁

11 hours ago, V_Pilot said:

I believe that the PMDGs for P3D were of higher quality than they are now in MSFS, although they are also of very high quality in MSFS.

1. Are PMDG 747 and 777 really so good that I should spend about $300 considering that I'm willing to go for it?

2. Is it worth entering Prepar3D v5 now in the run-up to 2025?

The decision, of course, is mine, but I will be grateful for your opinions.

They are not, as a matter of fact, the 777 you will buy for far more money in P3D is far less capable and modern than the one available in MSFS.  There would be no point in buying that for P3D if you already own and use MSFS.  
 

1.   IMO, no they are not.  If you are really dying for a 747-400 than it is the only choice, but it no longer receives updates and is quite old. 
 

3.   Absolutely it is not.  MSFS is four years old and about to be replaced.  P3D is even older and you will spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars to make it look not as good, the weather won’t be as good, the support for V5 is done, and the sim is not being updated.   If you want the 777, the one for MSFS is spectacular.   With the money you save not buying things that come stock (or better) in MSFS, you could purchase a good amount of high detail airports to fly in and out of.  
 

That’s my opinion on your question. 

P3Dv3 was still on the old bit system right where black screen of death could happen by running out of memory or something right?

21 minutes ago, ATRguy said:

If you want the 777, the one for MSFS is spectacular.

Perhaps you could point the OP to a site that shows comparative screenshots proving your claim.

19 minutes ago, Ident said:

P3Dv3 was still on the old bit system right where black screen of death could happen by running out of memory or something right?

It was 32-bit so had a limit of 4Gb VAS. In reality it became unstable around 3.8. Yes, push settings too far and it would crash.

No such problems with v4 to v6.

24 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Perhaps you could point the OP to a site that shows comparative screenshots proving your claim.

It was 32-bit so had a limit of 4Gb VAS. In reality it became unstable around 3.8. Yes, push settings too far and it would crash.

No such problems with v4 to v6.

More than happy to, Ray.  I'll also add that the 777 for MSFS has the capability for actual RF legs, LPV approaches, and models visual wear on the tires and brakes, and other things like that.  

The first shot is me right now, doing the walkaround in a very sloppy Vancouver for a flight to Mexico City.  You'll notice the wheels are different levels of dirt and grime, and that's dynamic based on brake usage and the age of the wheelset.  If you zoom in, you'll also see the brake level pin on the rear wheel, that's also dynamic showing you the brake wear, just like real life.  All I've added on here is GSX and FSimStudios' CYVR scenery.  I'll be flying into MMMX on the RNP 05R, which you can't do in the P3D 777.

The second one is the flight deck on a flight to Cape Town.  Default scenery.  I'm 100% sure Africa has never looked like this in any other sim.  I'm sure you'll notice the improvement in the flight deck detail, the textuing, the clickable pen, etc.  I wish I had a convenient night picture of the flight deck because the lighting is amazing.  

Anyways, that's my opinion, that in this day and age, unless you've already invested a lot of money into P3D, it's not worth starting.

Edited November 16, 20241 yr by ATRguy