January 18, 20251 yr I have an PC surge protector my PC and monitor are plugged into. Probably 1 out every 30 flights my surge protector will trip causing me to shut everything down. This mostly with MSFS 2024 but sometimes 2020 as well. I have the sensitivity down as far as it will go. Do anyone have a surge protector that is good but not quite as sensitive? Thanks.
January 18, 20251 yr I had the same problem but it was not tripping, just alarming. I did some research and even exchanged my just bought UPS for a more robust one. It too alarmed but far less frequently. What was alarming? The surge protector? No, it was the battery backup seeing the large wattage traveling through its veins during certain portions of MSFS 2024. For me it was the loading screen. How did I fix my alarms? I DONT use the battery backup, just the surge protector. My UPS has two sets of receptacles. One marked battery, the other not. See if yours is similar and try unplugging from a battery powered plug and using the surge side. It worked for me and it might for you too. YMMV and TANSTAAFL. Good luck, -B
January 18, 20251 yr If the surge protector is tripping due to the load from the PC, there is something wrong . I have never had a surge protector trip, unless the power went out..
January 18, 20251 yr I would not trust that surge protector, not over my PC/Monitor anyways if you have some spare money get rid of it and replace it. Maybe helpful to tell what brand/quality the SP is. Edited January 18, 20251 yr by JBDB-MD80
January 18, 20251 yr Hi, I'm using the Schneider Electric / APC surge arrester series on all my high-value equipment (PC, heat pump, TV/Hifi). Here in Europe, these are reasonable priced and i have no issues with them (but I never had to put to the test neither...). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27kZ9NZEdkA
January 18, 20251 yr Author 37 minutes ago, btacon said: I had the same problem but it was not tripping, just alarming. I did some research and even exchanged my just bought UPS for a more robust one. It too alarmed but far less frequently. What was alarming? The surge protector? No, it was the battery backup seeing the large wattage traveling through its veins during certain portions of MSFS 2024. For me it was the loading screen. How did I fix my alarms? I DONT use the battery backup, just the surge protector. My UPS has two sets of receptacles. One marked battery, the other not. See if yours is similar and try unplugging from a battery powered plug and using the surge side. It worked for me and it might for you too. YMMV and TANSTAAFL. Good luck, -B Great suggestion. I do have battery and non battery, I will switch and see what happens. 15 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said: I would not trust that surge protector, not over my PC/Monitor anyways if you have some spare money get rid of it and replace it. Maybe helpful to tell what brand/quality the SP is. It is a APC BVN. It is virtually brand new.
January 18, 20251 yr Author 7 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: I have always used APC both at home and we use them at work. Never an issue. Yeah, this is my second one and I do like them except for this matter. Hopefully your suggestion will work. Thank you.
January 18, 20251 yr 5 minutes ago, lehbird said: Great suggestion. I do have battery and non battery, I will switch and see what happens. It is a APC BVN. It is virtually brand new. My situation was similar. Went from an APC 600VA/300W, constant alarming. Immediate return and replaced with Amazon Basics 1550 VA/550W, seldom alarms but still occasionally. I decided I could invest close to $300.00 to get an APC with adequate battery backup VA/W OR I could just use the surge protector as I don’t need high availability and I don’t use my PC in inclement WX. The choice is always yours. YMMV. TANSTAAFL -B
January 18, 20251 yr 28 minutes ago, lehbird said: Great suggestion. I do have battery and non battery, I will switch and see what happens. It is a APC BVN. It is virtually brand new. OK, so what you have is an uninterruptable power supply (UPS), not a surge protector. And more than the UPS series (BVN) it's important to know the rated power delivery is in both VA and watts. What is most likely happening is your computer is exceeding the rated power delivery of the UPS, and the circuit protection is kicking in. This is not an issue of voltage "sensitivity"--the UPS will trip when it experiences a current overload, as it is designed to do. If that's the case, you need a UPS with a higher load rating. MSFS 2024, in particular, can heavily load your GPU, and many modern GPUs can draw in the neighborhood of 300-400W by themselves when loaded up. The APC BVN650 is only rated at 350W, so if that's the UPS you're using, and you have an nVidia 3000 or 4000-series GPU, it's not too a far stretch at all to draw enough power to overload the UPS. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
January 18, 20251 yr Author 2 minutes ago, Bob Scott said: OK, so what you have is an uninterruptable power supply (UPS), not a surge protector. And more than the UPS series (BVN) it's important to know the rated power delivery is in both VA and watts. What is most likely happening is your computer is exceeding the rated power delivery of the UPS, and the circuit protection is kicking in. This is not an issue of voltage "sensitivity"--the UPS will trip when it experiences a current overload, as it is designed to do. If that's the case, you need a UPS with a higher load rating. MSFS 2024, in particular, can heavily load your GPU, and many modern GPUs can draw in the neighborhood of 300-400W by themselves when loaded up. The APC BVN650 is only rated at 350W, so if that's the UPS you're using, and you have an nVidia 3000 or 4000-series GPU, it's not too a far stretch at all to draw enough power to overload the UPS. Thanks for the information Bob. By the text of my post, you can tell I am no electrical Engineer. All I can say though is that it bills itself as a surge protector and the outlets are labeled as "Surge Protected Outlets".
January 18, 20251 yr 5 minutes ago, lehbird said: Thanks for the information Bob. By the text of my post, you can tell I am no electrical Engineer. All I can say though is that it bills itself as a surge protector and the outlets are labeled as "Surge Protected Outlets". Post your system specs CPU, GPU and power supply that can help with some problems.
January 18, 20251 yr Author 14 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said: Post your system specs CPU, GPU and power supply that can help with some problems. Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900KF, 3200 Mhz, 24 Core(s) VC: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER Windows 11
January 18, 20251 yr 48 minutes ago, lehbird said: Thanks for the information Bob. By the text of my post, you can tell I am no electrical Engineer. All I can say though is that it bills itself as a surge protector and the outlets are labeled as "Surge Protected Outlets". It does that, but that is not it's main purpose. If the UPS is designed for 800 watts, and you hook 1200 watts of load into it, it will trip off.
January 18, 20251 yr Author 9 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: It does that, but that is not it's main purpose. If the UPS is designed for 800 watts, and you hook 1200 watts of load into it, it will trip off. Sorry Bob, I was responding to Bob Scott who said it is "Not a surge Protector".
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