Any word from those on Discord? I miss having Reverser axis’ on my jet transports.

Ta- C

Edited April 29, 20251 yr by cavaricooper

Isn't the hold for reverse toggle basically provides that already? 
On my bravo throttle I can lift the reverser levers and use the full run of the throttle axis as the reverser axis basically.

Works well for turboprops and jets.

I have separate Reverser Axis' and would love to be able to actually use them.

55 minutes ago, Georgleboui said:

Isn't the hold for reverse toggle basically provides that already? 
On my bravo throttle I can lift the reverser levers and use the full run of the throttle axis as the reverser axis basically.

Works well for turboprops and jets.

Unfortunately, the reversers do not have the correct functionality. Airplanes don't have buttons to activate reversers. We should also have reverse axes for those who have this type of controller available on their throttle quadrant. What you have on your Bravo controller are buttons that activate reversers directly from idle to max, not an axis. In actual airplanes, the reversers, when activated, can be gradually modulated from idle reverse to maximum reverse. This is another issue where ASOBO fails to grasp how it operates and isolates many individuals.

7 minutes ago, LRBS said:

Unfortunately, the reversers do not have the correct functionality. Airplanes don't have buttons to activate reversers. We should also have reverse axes for those who have this type of controller available on their throttle quadrant. What you have on your Bravo controller are buttons that activate reversers directly from idle to max, not an axis. In actual airplanes, the reversers, when activated, can be gradually modulated from idle reverse to maximum reverse. This is another issue where ASOBO fails to grasp how it operates and isolates many individuals.

Appreciate OP's point and it makes sense given the hardware axis.

But to correct you on the above - that key binding (I think it's called hold for reverse thrust?) does actually turn the throttle axis into a reverse axis. It's not an on or off switch. Appreciate there's some limitations of that - I believe you can't quite do reverse thrust idle as you have to move the throttles a little bit, but you totally can modulate reverse thrust as required.

There are two problems with the hold for reverse. First is that it's not realistic. In the real plane you pull the throttle farther back for reverse rather than advancing it forward after toggling something.

The second problem is a symptom of the first: Sometimes the sim misses the toggle. You flip the reverse lever on, but because the sim doesn't "see" that, when you advance the throttle you're actually increasing forward thrust. This particularly sucks when you're trying to use reverse prop to land a turboprop on something short. Suddenly you're at full forward thrust and crashing into trees because you're also on the brakes so you can't take off again either.

 

16 minutes ago, Georgleboui said:

Appreciate OP's point and it makes sense given the hardware axis.

But to correct you on the above - that key binding (I think it's called hold for reverse thrust?) does actually turn the throttle axis into a reverse axis. It's not an on or off switch. Appreciate there's some limitations of that - I believe you can't quite do reverse thrust idle as you have to move the throttles a little bit, but you totally can modulate reverse thrust as required.

NO, you are mistaken and not familiar with how the reversers work in real life. And for the BRAVO quadrant, this is from their website.

 

 Hold Throttle Reverse Thrust:

 

• Map the detent switch to "Hold Throttle Reverse Thrust at Max". 
   
• This allows you to pull the throttles back to engage full reverse thrust, and disengage it by returning the throttles to zero thrust. 
   
• This method provides a more simplified control, but you won't have fine control over the reverse thrust level. 

2 hours ago, cavaricooper said:

Any word from those on Discord? I miss having Reverser axis’ on my jet transports.

Ta- C

You can use FSUIPC for this.

14 minutes ago, LRBS said:

NO, you are mistaken and not familiar with how the reversers work in real life. And for the BRAVO quadrant, this is from their website.

 

 Hold Throttle Reverse Thrust:

 

• Map the detent switch to "Hold Throttle Reverse Thrust at Max". 
   
• This allows you to pull the throttles back to engage full reverse thrust, and disengage it by returning the throttles to zero thrust. 
   
• This method provides a more simplified control, but you won't have fine control over the reverse thrust level. 

Respectfully, that's incorrect. The binding is called Toggle Throttle Reverse Thrust.
Here's a video example of how it works, albeit here he bound it to the reverse "button" which at the end of the axis - to my mind not ideal.
I've mapped it to the reverser levers so if I lift them up, pushing the throttle engages the reverse axis.

 

13 minutes ago, Georgleboui said:

Respectfully, that's incorrect. The binding is called Toggle Throttle Reverse Thrust.
Here's a video example of how it works, albeit here he bound it to the reverse "button" which at the end of the axis - to my mind not ideal.
I've mapped it to the reverser levers so if I lift them up, pushing the throttle engages the reverse axis.

 

Now I understand where you're getting this misinformation. They show you throttle axes 1 and 2. Then there's a TOGGLE THROTTLE REVERSE THRUST button that activates when you pass the detent, not an axis. Once you pass that detent, it goes fully into reverse; you can't modulate it. THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN A REAL AIRPLANE. I'm trying to explain how we do it in a real aircraft. It's another issue with ASOBO. 

13 minutes ago, LRBS said:

Now I understand where you're getting this misinformation. They show you throttle axes 1 and 2. Then there's a TOGGLE THROTTLE REVERSE THRUST button that activates when you pass the detent, not an axis. Once you pass that detent, it goes fully into reverse; you can't modulate it. THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN A REAL AIRPLANE. I'm trying to explain how we do it in a real aircraft. It's another issue with ASOBO. 

No full reverse thrust is applied automatically. The bottom of the axis is a button - the guy in the video bound it to toggle reverse but I think that's dumb. 

That toggle changes the actual bravo throttle axis from controlling normal thrust to reverse thrust. You can see he moves his hand forward smoothly and the level goes into reverse smoothly. If you push it a little bit, you apply a little bit of reverse. Put it to the mid point of the forward axis on device, and it will be the mid point of the reverse axis. That's it.

I know how this works as that is how it's working for me. 

Is it accurate to the real plane? Of course not, this is a $300 peripheral.

I'm in full agreement with the OP – Asobo should add a full reverse axis for those with actual hardware to support it.
The original point I made was that there is indeed a reverse axis available but not bindable separately. 

EDIT: And just so that we don't move goal posts down the line - I'm only arguing with you against your original point that there is no reverse axis available. There actually is one. Is it close to the real plane? That's not the argument.

Edited April 30, 20251 yr by Georgleboui

18 minutes ago, Georgleboui said:

No full reverse thrust is applied automatically. The bottom of the axis is a button - the guy in the video bound it to toggle reverse but I think that's dumb. 

That toggle changes the actual bravo throttle axis from controlling normal thrust to reverse thrust. You can see he moves his hand forward smoothly and the level goes into reverse smoothly. If you push it a little bit, you apply a little bit of reverse. Put it to the mid point of the forward axis on device, and it will be the mid point of the reverse axis. That's it.

I know how this works as that is how it's working for me. 

Is it accurate to the real plane? Of course not, this is a $300 peripheral.

I'm in full agreement with the OP – Asobo should add a full reverse axis for those with actual hardware to support it.
The original point I made was that there is indeed a reverse axis available but not bindable separately. 

EDIT: And just so that we don't move goal posts down the line - I'm only arguing with you against your original point that there is no reverse axis available. There actually is one. Is it close to the real plane? That's not the argument.

It's amazing, I'm an airline pilot for the last 45 years, and you try to convince me that this is normal, and what this guy is doing in the video is correct, and we have a reverser axis available. Wow, good luck.

1 hour ago, LRBS said:

 In actual airplanes, the reversers, when activated, can be gradually modulated from idle reverse to maximum reverse. 

That is the way I use reverse thrust in all my airlines in flight sim.  I use Hold Throttle Reverse Thrust and I assign that to the trigger on my joystick. When I want reversers, I hold the trigger and use the throttle control to modulate the amount of reverse I want. This also works for TurboProps like the Kodiak and Pilatus.  

9 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

That is the way I use reverse thrust in all my airlines in flight sim.  I use Hold Throttle Reverse Thrust and I assign that to the trigger on my joystick. When I want reversers, I hold the trigger and use the throttle control to modulate the amount of reverse I want. This also works for TurboProps like the Kodiak and Pilatus.  

I'm sorry Bob, the angry airline pilot says that's an impossibility. You must be mistaken. 😞

55 minutes ago, LRBS said:

It's amazing, I'm an airline pilot for the last 45 years, and you try to convince me that this is normal, and what this guy is doing in the video is correct, and we have a reverser axis available. Wow, good luck.

Re-read his post.  He wasn't trying to convince you that's "normal".  He even said it's NOT normal / not how it is really done.   All of us with Bravos know it's not "normal"/correct.  It's just a way to halfway (half__ss) deal with it for now.   Part of it is hardware, in the sense that the Honeycomb Bravo reverser (with the airliner handles) is just an on-off switch essentially.