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What I've Learned With MSFS 2024 Settings (AMD Users)

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1 hour ago, funkyj4ever said:

Even in medium or low it won't run smooth.

Wrong. The sim runs on a Xbox, if you cant manage to run it smooth on mediocre system, you simply do something wrong. 

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

8 minutes ago, Noel said:

I'd love to see vCore with that set to run 5.5 constantly.

It is very much possible with proper cooling.

My Ansiotropic Filtering is set to 16 in the Ndivia control settings, not 2024 graphics settings

 Nvida - Texture Filtering = Clamp is correct

Ensure you have Dynamic Settings off - Makes the terrain look terrible to achieve more performance. this is also correct

Bill McIntyre

Asus StrixB650E-F Gamer, AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, Corsair Titanium DDR5 64GB, Samsung 990 PRO-4TB M.2, (4) 2TB SSD's, Corsair H1150i liquid cooler, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, (2) LG 34" HD Curved Monitor, Sound Blaster Audigy X, 1Kw PC Power & Cooling Power Supply, Corsair Obsidian Full tower Case. MSFS 2024, WIN11 Pro x64                                                                                                                                             

26 minutes ago, Noel said:

It's not running 5.5Ghz constantly, only when demand requires, correct?  I use PBO with a curve optimizer at -20 and only on rare occasions does 2024 ever demand anywhere near that clockspeed with the native rate locked at 50FPS.

Here we are over Germany, all Ultra, TLOD 200 at right now in the I-Fly 737 MAX 8. Ultra smooth, but locked at 50FPS-native as we don't use any form of FG.  vCore hovers right around 1.30v, a cool 70W or so on the CPU. and core temp at 67C by RTSS, 61.6 via RyzMaster right now.

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Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

22 minutes ago, Bigmack said:

It is very much possible with proper cooling.

My Ansiotropic Filtering is set to 16 in the Ndivia control settings, not 2024 graphics settings

 Nvida - Texture Filtering = Clamp is correct

Ensure you have Dynamic Settings off - Makes the terrain look terrible to achieve more performance. this is also correct

Sure, but the question was what is the sustained vCore.  It's like running a hot rod engine at 10,000rpm.  What would be useful is if one could dedicate the 'main thread' of which MSFS 2024 certainly has, but I don't believe it is possible to assign it to a specific core--it jumps around according to Windows management algorithm.  It would be useful to set the main thread at max core clockspeed then you would not need to sustain the power required to have all 12 cores run at max speed when that's never going to be used in MSFS 2024.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

13 hours ago, Bigmack said:

There was a software engineer that help develop windows that would come and show you how to setup up windows to run Flight simulator for a fee.

I remember the late Michael Greenblatt and his FS-GS service. Too bad I was still a student during his days. Did you mean him or someone else?

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

And there was also the late Nick Needham, who published a great Bible for tuning Windows XP to run FSX well back in the day. 
Rich

2 hours ago, AnkH said:

Wrong. The sim runs on a Xbox, if you cant manage to run it smooth on mediocre system, you simply do something wrong. 

Dude. there are tons of forum posts about high vram use. stutters etc. Also for xbox. Why else its number 1 bug high vram usage?? Also most cheaper cards dont have enough vram. So again it only runs good on expensive hardware.

Some posts after a quick search. 

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/so-unhappy-with-the-visuals-and-performance-on-xbox/696071/63

 

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/anyone-other-xbox-users-just-fed-up-that-2024-is-completely-unplayable/713779/92

 

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2 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

I remember the late Michael Greenblatt and his FS-GS service. Too bad I was still a student during his days. Did you mean him or someone else?

Yes, that was him. he smoked like a chimney.

Edited by Bigmack

Bill McIntyre

Asus StrixB650E-F Gamer, AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, Corsair Titanium DDR5 64GB, Samsung 990 PRO-4TB M.2, (4) 2TB SSD's, Corsair H1150i liquid cooler, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, (2) LG 34" HD Curved Monitor, Sound Blaster Audigy X, 1Kw PC Power & Cooling Power Supply, Corsair Obsidian Full tower Case. MSFS 2024, WIN11 Pro x64                                                                                                                                             

1 hour ago, funkyj4ever said:

Dude. there are tons of forum posts about high vram use. stutters etc. Also for xbox. Why else its number 1 bug high vram usage?? Also most cheaper cards dont have enough vram. So again it only runs good on expensive hardware.

Some posts after a quick search. 

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/so-unhappy-with-the-visuals-and-performance-on-xbox/696071/63

 

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/anyone-other-xbox-users-just-fed-up-that-2024-is-completely-unplayable/713779/92

 

I'm running on a 2080Ti card with no vram issues

Bill McIntyre

Asus StrixB650E-F Gamer, AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, Corsair Titanium DDR5 64GB, Samsung 990 PRO-4TB M.2, (4) 2TB SSD's, Corsair H1150i liquid cooler, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, (2) LG 34" HD Curved Monitor, Sound Blaster Audigy X, 1Kw PC Power & Cooling Power Supply, Corsair Obsidian Full tower Case. MSFS 2024, WIN11 Pro x64                                                                                                                                             

2 hours ago, rlashier said:

And there was also the late Nick Needham, who published a great Bible for tuning Windows XP to run FSX well back in the day. 

The Bible was written for Windows 7, but I still apply his principles to Win10 and 11. But before his Bible, there were some tweak guides he wrote for XP and also for FS9.

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

6 minutes ago, Luis Hernandez said:

The Bible was written for Windows 7, but I still apply his principles to Win10 and 11. But before his Bible, there were some tweak guides he wrote for XP and also for FS9.

Yes, it was. That's why I say people nowadays just think installing windows on a machine with a fast CPU and video card and memory with run Flight Sim at its best performance by default. By default, it doesn't. Microsoft didn't design windows to run flight sim but to satisfy the average everyday user. His bible was written to show you how to setup windows to perform at its highest performance and stability. No CTD's.

Bill McIntyre

Asus StrixB650E-F Gamer, AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, Corsair Titanium DDR5 64GB, Samsung 990 PRO-4TB M.2, (4) 2TB SSD's, Corsair H1150i liquid cooler, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, (2) LG 34" HD Curved Monitor, Sound Blaster Audigy X, 1Kw PC Power & Cooling Power Supply, Corsair Obsidian Full tower Case. MSFS 2024, WIN11 Pro x64                                                                                                                                             

5 hours ago, Bigmack said:

It is very much possible with proper cooling.

Fascinating find from following up on this.  I manually set clock speed to 5.5gHz and am doing a flight now.  RyzenMaster shows cores bouncing around well below peak clock speed as you can see in RyzenMaster and as they did with my prior setup.  And yet if I run a simple stress test, indeed 12 cores stay at 5.5gHz.  vCore is a pleasant 1.28v as well and cooling is a non-issue as you can see in this image.  Why does MSI Center as well as CPU-Z show locked at 5.5gHz, yet actual in use in MSFS is way way lower.  I think this, once again comes down to MAIN THREAD limitation, an unfortunate reality.  This is presumably why in a specific scenario I may see a maximum of 55FPS-native yet have big time CPU and GPU headroom.  I read the main thread is no longer tied to a specific core, it bounces around according to an algorithm.  I use Process Lasso to put the first 6 cores on MSFS more or less exclusively, along with 2 of the fastest cores on CCD2.

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Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

14 hours ago, funkyj4ever said:

The real reason is you need a 2000€ PC to run it smooth.  Under that impossible. 2020 will perform better

No. Go watch youtube optimised setting guides and you'll get more frames.

53 minutes ago, MikeH99 said:

No. Go watch youtube optimised setting guides and you'll get more frames.

I don't care about or chase frames. All I care about performance, smoothness, and stability.

Bill McIntyre

Asus StrixB650E-F Gamer, AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D, Corsair Titanium DDR5 64GB, Samsung 990 PRO-4TB M.2, (4) 2TB SSD's, Corsair H1150i liquid cooler, RTX 2080TI Founders Edition, (2) LG 34" HD Curved Monitor, Sound Blaster Audigy X, 1Kw PC Power & Cooling Power Supply, Corsair Obsidian Full tower Case. MSFS 2024, WIN11 Pro x64                                                                                                                                             

3 hours ago, Bigmack said:

I'm running on a 2080Ti card with no vram issues

ahh the Anecdotal argument. What do you want to proof? Why is the nummer 1 bug then? The vram usage. And besides  that I don't know anything about the settings you play, the amount of frames etc. The types of aircraft etc. This is so useless to tell XD.

 

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