November 11, 2025Nov 11 I am now thinking seriously about buying a new PC, so I would like some advice regarding motherboards. I suspect that all of the ones on the list below are very good, but which one would you consider to be NEO? I am targeting an AMD Ryzen 7 9800 X3D CPU and 64GB DDR5-6000 CL30 RAM, and my graphics card (courtesy of a very generous offer from a fellow AvSim member) is an RTX 4070 Super. I do not necessarily need the ultimate motherboard on that list. I just want a very good, solid, reliable performer that is recommended by the tech gurus around here. For the record, these are the options available from the outlet where I intend to purchase the PC. Asus Prime B850 Plus Wifi Asus TUF Gaming B850 Plus Wifi Asus PRIME X870-P Wifi Asus TUF Gaming X870 Plus Wifi Asus ROG Crosshair X870-E Hero Gigabyte B850 Aorus Elite Wifi 7 Gigabyte X870 Eagle Wifi 7 Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite Wifi 7 Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 Gigabyte X870E Aorus Master Edited November 11, 2025Nov 11 by Christopher Low Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
November 11, 2025Nov 11 If you don't need a whole lot of bells and whistles (and led lighting) also have a look at the MSI B850 choices even though your preferred vendor doesn't carry them. MSI Pro Z690-A DDR4 | i5 13600KF | G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3600MHz | RTX 3080 (12GB) | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe 1TB | Samsung 850EVO 500GB | Crucial P3+ 2TB NVMe | 2TB Seagate HDD | Deepcool AK500 CPU Cooler | Thrustmaster T16000M HOTAS | CH Yoke | Various Winctrl hardware | 21:9 1440p UW monitor | Win 11 23H2 build | MSFS2020 | Tony K.
November 11, 2025Nov 11 Author I was gifted an Asus Maximus IX Hero for my current PC way back in 2019, so there is no going back. I want something fancy Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
November 11, 2025Nov 11 My recommendation would be the Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 I have used this same motherboard for last 3 generations. I have the same specs - memory DDR4 (Motherboard excepts both) and 5090 videocard. Never a problem. Easy to configure and install. Good luck on your build
November 11, 2025Nov 11 I'm having good experiences with MSI Carbon (X670E and X870E) AMD boards. I'd stay clear of the ASUS Prime boards. See this video--mobo discussion starts about 1:45 in, where he specifically addresses the poor design of ASUS Prime boards: Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
November 11, 2025Nov 11 I've been very happy with the Gigabyte x870e Aorus Elite Wifi 7. with your specs, 4090 and ddr5 6000 64gb ram.
November 11, 2025Nov 11 Glad MSI and ASRock were NOT on your list. I’ve had good success with Gigabyte 870E Aorus and “so so” success with ASUS in recent builds. MSI has been very problematic with 0D error code ONLY on a warm reboot but works find on a cold boot … in addition the 10G onboard NIC stops working sometimes and other USB issues. ASRock has reports (from many different sources) of killing AMD CPUs. Out of those motherboards listed, I think your deciding factor will be how much Gen 5 support you need? The 4070 Super is Gen 4. Will you be using multiple M.2 NVMe Gen 5 components (ex. Samsung 9100)? I would recommend going with X870 if all gen 4 components, else go with X870E if you have gen 5 components. The “E” brings addition lanes (2 chipsets) and I would recommend if you plan to do future upgrades to Gen 5 components. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan
November 12, 2025Nov 12 MSI are the best in my opinion. https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-X870-TOMAHAWK-WIFI Pete Richards I've owned every version of flight simulator since Flight Simulator 3.0 in 1988. Windows 11 Pro loaded on a 4TB Gen5 Crucial T700 SSD, 4TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD, Ryzen 9 7950x3d, AS Rock X670e Taichi Motherboard, Gigabyte Gaming RTX 4090 OC 24GB, 64GB (2x32GB) Viper Venom DDR5-6000MT/s, MSI 32" MAG 321UPX QD-OLED 260hz 4K Gaming Monitor.
November 12, 2025Nov 12 Agree, no prolems with the MSI MAG-X870, great price/value! Location: 🇦🇺 Brisbane, Australia, 19.0dme YBBN 120.50 | Simulator: FS2024PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9800X3D ▸ MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk ▸ 2x16Gb G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo RGB DDR5 ▸ GeForce RTX 5080 Palit GamingPro OC 16GB GPU ▸ 4TB Samsung 990 PRO PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD ▸ Corsair 1000W RM1000x SHIFT 80+ Gold ▸ MSI MAG401QR: 40" flat IPS ultrawide 3440x1440 155hz
November 12, 2025Nov 12 My ongoing MSI Saga: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cpu-ddr-error-on-x870e-godlike-but-somehow-booted-normally.410894/page-2#post-2360942 https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/done-with-msi-garbage-motherboards.413599/#post-2345994 Sorry for the language, just very frustrated that my MSI $1200 motherboard could have so many issues. Fortunately it’s not just me having issues with MSI per threads. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan
November 12, 2025Nov 12 Spent some time on this build so it was disappointing to run into the "warm boot" issues: This is all good from a cold boot per MSI Dashboard: Then I get this after a warm boot (in this particular case, my Samsung 9100 M.2 NVMe drive wasn't detected): Sometimes on a warm boot I'll get the CPU and DDR 0D error on the Dashboard (as in thread I linked). As a work-around I don't warm boot, always power down wait 2 mins then power back on and all is good. For a $1200 motherboard, MSI need to do better and my research shows that I'm not the only with this issue. I'm glad your MSI boards are working well for you and wish I had the same success, but unfortunately I don't hence why I can't recommend MSI. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan
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