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Help with Calculating Take off and Landing speed

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I have googled how to find Take off speeds and it says in EFB go to performance, set runway and weather which I do then it says to press Calculate button BUT there is no Calculate button that I see so no speeds are shown. Am I doing something wrong ?? Thanks for any help

Aircraft in question might help?

Paul

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Not all default aircraft have performance data in the EFB that would allow for calculation.

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22 minutes ago, garlicbread11 said:

Aircraft in question might help?

Cessna 404 BUT any aircraft. How are you suppose to jump in a plane without even knowing the stall speed of it without actually stalling it and finding out

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19 minutes ago, Farlis said:

Not all default aircraft have performance data in the EFB that would allow for calculation.

Ok how does everyone find out takeoff and landing speeds for the aircraft there flying ? Thanks

44 minutes ago, bmarcoux2 said:

Ok how does everyone find out takeoff and landing speeds for the aircraft there flying

Same way as it is done in real life - Going through POH (pilot's operating handbook) and looking at Performance graphs and tables. Default aircrafts - aren't modelled as accurately as real word counterpart so regardless of what you find in POH - you are not going to get same performance as depicted in the book. 

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2 hours ago, bmarcoux2 said:

I have googled how to find Take off speeds and it says in EFB go to performance, set runway and weather which I do then it says to press Calculate button BUT there is no Calculate button that I see so no speeds are shown. Am I doing something wrong ?? Thanks for any help

This might help

https://flightsim.to/addon/100196/performance-calculator#google_vignette

and SimBrief.

 

 

747 Captain for the last 39 years, and still learning. 

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1 hour ago, CAP1234 said:

Same way as it is done in real life - Going through POH (pilot's operating handbook) and looking at Performance graphs and tables. Default aircrafts - aren't modelled as accurately as real word counterpart so regardless of what you find in POH - you are not going to get same performance as depicted in the book. 

So I should buy a pilots handbook for every plane I want to fly. ok

1 hour ago, bmarcoux2 said:

So I should buy a pilots handbook for every plane I want to fly

Have you heard about something called "google" before?

1 hour ago, bmarcoux2 said:

So I should buy a pilots handbook for every plane I want to fly. ok

Manuals for many of the aircraft included with MSFS are here:

https://www.flightsimulator.com/aircraft-manuals/

Third-party addons often include a manual in the download, or you can find them on the internet.

In the specific case of the Cessna 404, I haven't been able to find a complete manual, but you can find references that include various airspeeds, see for example here:

https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/510188-c402-c404-planning-info.html

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1 hour ago, weaklink said:

Manuals for many of the aircraft included with MSFS are here:

https://www.flightsimulator.com/aircraft-manuals/

Third-party addons often include a manual in the download, or you can find them on the internet.

In the specific case of the Cessna 404, I haven't been able to find a complete manual, but you can find references that include various airspeeds, see for example here:

https://www.pprune.org/pacific-general-aviation-questions/510188-c402-c404-planning-info.html

Thank You. Havn't had msfs since fsx 15 years ago Alot to take in 🙂

You can also find tutorials for the Cessna 404 on YouTube. Here's one that doesn't look bad at first glance:

 

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14 hours ago, bmarcoux2 said:

Cessna 404 BUT any aircraft. How are you suppose to jump in a plane without even knowing the stall speed of it without actually stalling it and finding out

GA planes generally have them marked on the airspeed indicator, the stall speed, blue line, and red line. Those speeds are for max landing weight, generally speaking. Bottom of the green = clean stall speed. Bottom of the white = stall speed with flaps fully extended. Can't speak for the 404 directly, but in the 402, we used 120 knots and one stage of flaps until the runway was 'made'... essentially within gliding range, then we'd select full flaps and start to reduce power. 

AMD 9950X3D | 64 GB RAM | RTX 5090

FMR: 747 FO, 757/767 CAPT, 737 Check Airman
Current 777 CAPT

 

As a very basic cheat to find your approach speed you can try this..

Final approach speed is based on your stall speed in the full landing configuration X 1.3

So get airborne, get into full landing configuration and slow the aircraft until it stalls, note the speed this happens , then times the stall speed by 1.3

For example the aircraft stalls at an easy figure of 100kts you know your approach speed to fly will be 130kts.

This approach speed will also roughly equate to V2 speed on climb out , so maybe take 5kts off and you can use that as a rough rotate speed.

It’ll work well enough in the sim for you.

Just remember though these speeds are dependent on weight so it won’t vary too much in a 404 it will in a 747

787 captain.  

Previously 24 years on 747-400.Technical advisor on PMDG 747 legacy versions QOTS 1 , FS9 and Aerowinx PS1. 

I don't know about the 404 but sometimes the in game checklists include speeds so check there. Also flightsim.to has checklists for some aircraft that include basic operating parameters.

Documentation in general is poor in flight sims.

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