August 8Aug 8 Moderator @whisky , type this into the Google search engine. Follow the instructions.carenado s340 p3D how to start enginesThis video should help too. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
August 9Aug 9 Author Thanks Ray,I have been using the manual start in this bird for a few years. I never use hotkeys.Also Navigraph data does not load. (Common in all Carenado products) The so called fix doesn't work, so not a real IFR machine.I was a Commercial pilot in years gone by, twin IFR rating. The Saab is one of my favorites because it is almost study level. My other go to is PMDG Boeings and MJC Dash 8.Thanks for your helpKevin
August 9Aug 9 Moderator @whisky , you didn’t say if those instructions helped. If the engines didn’t start but did previously what has changed on your system? Why not try hot keys just to test that option.As Dave alluded to if no one else has the problem then it has to be something on your setup.The Navigraph situation is different to the engines. I don’t believe your mental state is connected to this problem since your posts are quite coherent. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
August 9Aug 9 Hello!I apologize for interrupting, but having carefully followed all of @whisky topics (including previous ones), I am increasingly inclined to conclude that the main problem lies in the operating system. Although I may be mistaken. What I would do in such a situation...I would check Windows for file system integrity, run several tests to make sure my OS is fine.If the OS is fine, install P3D5 and run it in default mode. Verify that the simulator and default aircraft work exactly as intended by the developer.And only after making sure that both software products are fine, I would proceed to installing add‑ons. One at a time, with mandatory testing of each add‑on for proper functionality.In my opinion, only this way everything can be debugged. There must be a clear sequence, not chaotic attempts to fix something. Sergey LabukhMy system: Win 10 Pro 22H2x64 / Prepar3D v4.5 (HF3) Academic / Xilence 500W Power Supply / Biostar H310MHP / INTEL Core™ i5 9400F / DDR4 8GB 2666MHz Team Elite - 2 pcs / PALIT GeForce GTX1050 Ti 4096Mb StormX
August 9Aug 9 Author At last Sergey, you have suggested the almighty Microsoft OS could be the problem. YAYI have followed up on every suggestion for a fix, to no avail.Even as I write this AI is preempting with suggestions. I have been simming since 1st version and I have never encountered issues like I have since installing latest OS. (Copilot just deleted)I am now installing Prep3d on an old PC to prove a point. Will let you know the result in due coarse.
August 11Aug 11 Moderator 5 hours ago, whisky said:I now consider further action not wantedPlease explain what that means. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
August 11Aug 11 Stupid suggestion from my side: could it be that one of your controllers is forcefully setting your ignition or mixture to OFF, thus preventing the CTRL+E to do its job ?I mean, if the default planes (not carenado) don't start with CTRL+E, then it can only mean that some hardware is sending some conflicting command (for example the engine switches from the TM Airbus throttle quadrant...).Do your default planes start when you manipulate their virtual cockpit switches and levers by the mouse without touching any of your hardware joysticks/throttles ?
August 11Aug 11 Author 3 hours ago, Daube said:Stupid suggestion from my side: could it be that one of your controllers is forcefully setting your ignition or mixture to OFF, thus preventing the CTRL+E to do its job ?I mean, if the default planes (not carenado) don't start with CTRL+E, then it can only mean that some hardware is sending some conflicting command (for example the engine switches from the TM Airbus throttle quadrant...).Do your default planes start when you manipulate their virtual cockpit switches and levers by the mouse without touching any of your hardware joysticks/throttles ?1: I don't use ctrl/e nor default airplanes2: I am almost certain that Windows OS is the problem. I am going set up P3D on an old computer tomorrow.
August 11Aug 11 Author 5 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:Please explain what that means.On 8/9/2026 at 5:14 PM, Ray Proudfoot said:@whisky , you didn’t say if those instructions helped. If the engines didn’t start but did previously what has changed on your system? Why not try hot keys just to test that option.As Dave alluded to if no one else has the problem then it has to be something on your setup.The Navigraph situation is different to the engines. I don’t believe your mental state is connected to this problem since your posts are quite coherent.On 8/9/2026 at 5:14 PM, Ray Proudfoot said:@whisky , you didn’t say if those instructions helped. If the engines didn’t start but did previously what has changed on your system? Why not try hot keys just to test that option.As Dave alluded to if no one else has the problem then it has to be something on your setup.The Navigraph situation is different to the engines. I don’t believe your mental state is connected to this problem since your posts are quite coherent.I don’t believe your mental state is connected to this problem since your posts are quite coherent.Please explain what qualifications you have to make such a comment. Dementia symptoms in the early stages can swing from light to severe. Right now it is small memory issues but increasing.
August 11Aug 11 Moderator 1 hour ago, whisky said:Please explain what qualifications you have to make such a comment. Dementia symptoms in the early stages can swing from light to severe. Right now it is small memory issues but increasing.I and several others have tried repeatedly to help you. I have no professional experience of dementia but your replies seemed coherent except for the last one - “I now consider further action not wanted”. I’ve no idea what that meant.Be aware that you won’t be able to install P3D on another computer unless you cancel the license on the original. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
August 11Aug 11 Author 23 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:I and several others have tried repeatedly to help you. I have no professional experience of dementia but your replies seemed coherent except for the last one - “I now consider further action not wanted”. I’ve no idea what that meant.Be aware that you won’t be able to install P3D on another computer unless you cancel the license Thanks for your response, I too have no idea what (I now consider further action not wanted”. I’ve no idea what that meant. The Doctor has notified SA Transport That I should surrender my driver licence. He thinks that condition makes me unfit to drive. (I wonder what my chance are of passing a CPL medical LOL)Re P3D on the licence? onto that one.
August 19Aug 19 Author I give up! Set up the sim on my old PC. Installed MJC DHC400, PMDG 772, and Carenado Saab 340.All started and performed as they should. Except the Saab 340 Navigraph still not loading.I am going to trash all Carenado product as they are unusable, Trouble points to Windows OS. The is new PC is incredibly slow as well.Thanks to all for your suggestions. (Ctrl/e was never going to be the solution though)
August 21Aug 21 I actually have the Carenado SAAB 340, been a while since I flew it and I think I have it in both P3D 4.5 and P3D 5.3.I'll have a look at it over the coming week and give it a few test flights and see how it goes.Cheers Ryzen 5800X clocked to 4.7 Ghz (SMT off), 32 GB ram, Samsung 1 x 1 TB NVMe 970, 2 x 1 TB SSD 850 Pro raided, Asus Tuf 3080TiP3D 4.5.14, Orbx Global, Vector and more, lotsa planes too.Catch my vids on Oz Sim Pilot.
August 23Aug 23 Author On 8/21/2026 at 12:18 PM, Rogen said:I actually have the Carenado SAAB 340, been a while since I flew it and I think I have it in both P3D 4.5 and P3D 5.3.I'll have a look at it over the coming week and give it a few test flights and see how it goes.CheersThanks Rogen, This product is released as being Navigraph compatable. It isn't, instead they released a patch, which doesn't work.It downloads with 2 versions, Navigraph compatable and non compatable. I don't understand why they would have 2 versions.The Saab 340 is close to study level and is a dream to fly. Let's know how you go.Cheers
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