You're probably right, just got the impression by the word "final" that we should have seen the patch by now considering it's almost two weeks since the thread was started.

I got that impression too but I guess they are doing some serious testing with it. That's not a bad thing because I'm sure we'll all will love the upgrade once it comes out.

Captains-Just wanted to let you know that we have two updates for the PMDG 737-800/900 that have entered final beta...1) PMDG 737-800/900 SERVICE UPDATE 1: A full service update that addresses a dozen major/minor items reported to us since release.2) PMDG 737-6/700 Model Updates for 737-800/900 owners: This update will add the clickable Virtual Cockpit to the 737-600/700 for owners of the PMDG 737-800/900.These two updates will release on the same day, at the same time. Originally we had expected to release the model update earlier- but we found some overlapping areas that we wanted to ensure were ironed out so that the updates would not conflict with each other accidentally. As such- a minor wait....SERVICE UPDATE 1 for the 737-800/900 includes the following items:1) Eliminates a data corruption problem that was responsible for Unplanned engine flameouts2) Eliminates a data corruption problem that was responsible for Unexplainable electrical losses (lights/radios/etc)3) Eliminates a code problem that would cause the battery to die, thus triggering electrical problems.4) Eliminates a code problem that would cause the generators to become unresponsive to the switches.5) Eliminates a code problem that would cause certain types of asynchronous behavior in the lighting system.6) Enhanced behavior for holding pattern entry.7) Enhanced behavior for holding pattern exit.8) Algorithmic track calculation for wind correction angle in holds. (Airplane "learns" during holding.)9) Corrected errors in Cost Index Model10) Corrected Generator Disconnect Switch behavior.11) Updated behavior of electrical bus switching/protection logic.12) Updated generator logic and battery behavior13) Updated fuel system behavior to eliminate potential problems with fuel imbalance14) CDU Action keys included in keyboard commands15) Eliminated SPD REF selection CTD problem16) LOC Back Course tracking fixed17) Eliminated bug that causes CTD during aircraft changes. (Came back to edit the list..left a few off the first time..)The MODEL UPDATE is for owners of both the 737-600/700 and the 737-800/900 who want to have clickable virtual cockpits in both the 8/900 series and the 6/700 series.... This update is rather large because it replaces all the 6/700 models with the new models- and as you know MDL files take up a significant amount of space.(It is worth noting that this update will require that you have the 8/900 installed, and it will not add functionality to the VC if you do not own the 8/900....)We have turned both updates over to our beta team- and provided that all goes well you will have access to them soon!Both updates are free of charge- and will be available for download from the PMDG DOWNLOADS CENTER, along with the 150+ free airplane liveries that we have produced and made available to you there...So please, take advantage of the items that we provide to you at no cost- the are part of your entire PMDG 737 Operator's Experience!As promised- some 744 news coming soon. ;-)

Not sure if I've experienced this or not. I do know that yesterday on a landing I had an issue when on final that it looked like I was below the surface of the earth at some point. It almost looked like that in addition to setting my minimums I had changed the baro. I am however, very unsure as to exactly what the conditions were. At the time I was on a back-course approach in heavy fog flying manually and had to watch out for a 1,000 foot tower just off the end of the runway (unpublished back-course approach I flew to avoid wind).

Thanks for the info.A few weeks ago I started the following thread concerning problems with elapsed time measurement using the new pop-up chronograph. I don

Sandy-Not in the current update.

I saw a press release on avsim last week saying these updates were about to be released. Where are they? Nothing on the PMDG site, no customer email with links yet.RegardsAdam Moore

"Captains-We have had a bit harder time getting the beta test completed on the Model Update and the 800/900 Service Update than originally anticipated.Out beta testers discovered that fixes we made to the electrical system uncovered a minor flaw in another system- and it has take nsome work to resolve the issue satisfactorily!We have worked out all of the kinks now, we THINK- but it will be a few more days before we are prepared to put them on the server for you. Currently I am **expecting** wenesday or Thursday for the release of both updates!In addition, we have a batch of liveries that will get added to the server once we know for ceratin that no more changes are required on account of the two updates coming out. I expect you will have those liveries on/about 01AUG, for those who are interested!Work progresses on the 744 and a solid pace- and the systems and cockpit functions are beginning to take shape nicely!Robert S. RandazzoPrecision Manuals Development Groupwww.precisionmanuals.com" Answer your question?Best Wishes,[h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4][h3]P M D G's 747-400[/h3][h4]coming to a runway near you[/h4][/font color]Caution! Not a real pilot, but do play one on TV ;-)AMD 64 3200+ | ASUS KV8 DELUXE | GFORCE 5700 ULTRA @535/1000 | Maxtor 6Y080M0 SATA 80 GIG | 512 DDR 400 | Windows Xp Pro | Windows Xp Pro 64 |

So we can hopefully see the updates today? JeffG

yes pleeeease

Hello,I hope too that they will be available today in europe to continue my world tour tonight in new 600 and 700 VChave a nice day waiting for updates

I cannot wait... :-sun1

:( "wednesday or thursday" have passed, it is now friday and still no sign, never mind it will be worth the wait :)

Still Thursday in the US. Rather it be right than today anyway.

Im sure it's will be uploaded tonight :-doh