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1) Why they are delaying in such a way to launch the 747?2)He would not be ideal to inform a date of launching, exactly because I find that it would be a respect form before the users.Mauricio

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Mauricio,1)When the PMDG 747 is ready for release we'll release it. We're not delaying it to frustrate our customers.2)It is our policy not to announce release dates because of our respect for our customers. This is a complex simulation and announcing dates that might not be met is counter-productive.

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>Mauricio,>>1)When the PMDG 747 is ready for release we'll release it.>We're not delaying it to frustrate our customers.>>2)It is our policy not to announce release dates because of>our respect for our customers. This is a complex simulation>and announcing dates that might not be met is>counter-productive. PMDG can to little passing the month? January? February?Mauricio

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Maybe it is just me but people think that these developers just whip out aircraft once a month. Yes there has been talk about a 747 for a long time but developement started just a few months ago. Look at some other projects that have been talked about for a long time but still are not released, namely a four engined military transport from another company. I think if this community gets any more demmanding on the developers then we will not only not know when it is being released but also we won't know what they are making. Give them a break and they will post details as they feel that they are ready to. Remember that the Beta testing has not even started yet and that will take at the very very best at least a month. Disclaimer: This is not directed at any one person but more at the community as a whole as seen on all forums lately ie. VATSIM, SQUAWKBOX, and others both payware and FREEWARE.

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Guest teeloo

How about not announcing anything at all?Why should we know about the 744?No otherone is making it and even if so, you wouldn't put developement under pressure. As it isn't now!Just plain nother.Just tell people PMDG is working on something new.As there is no release date whatsoever, it could wel be in 2007 (like Operation Flash Point2)Is there a reason I would want to know what PMDG is up to?Teeloo

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I agree with what Pete said. Stating anything about a release date is bad! Just look at the LDS767. They annouce it will be out by Fall 2004. Come Dec 21, everyone is going #####, where is it? I think by the end of that week, they had to go to a moderated forum it got so bad. Since then, the publisher annouces that it will only be a short delay and stated it would be out around mid-January. Now one of the developers just posted a thread tonight stating it will be out in a matter of weeks which puts it off to probably Feburary at the earliest. So you see how announcing release dates or even time frames does not do any good. People just wind up getting mad. I think nothing should be said at all by the developer until the day its released.

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Guest wkzzo

Here's something, I assume you live inside of a domicile of some sort, take a look around the room. On one of the walls you will see a rectangular shapped object with a knob on it, some people would call them doors. Now here's the best part. Your going to like this. Walk over to said rectangle (door) and turn knob(thing sticking out of door), YES, its a whole new world out here, there's blue sky, people laughing, kids playing and life does go on without the Pmdg 747. Hard to beleive ,I know.Remember for every post such as this, Pmdg is actually obligated to delay release for another week, Its in their contract. :)Sorry couldn't be helped.

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"PMDG can to little passing the month? January? February?"As previously stated, the beta hasn't been released yet, Mauricio. In the first weeks of beta testing, the developers/programmers get a better idea of what needs fixing (and how hard it is to fix). One unfixable bug or serious error may delay the project for months. Some bug fixes create other problems in other areas of the sim, so you can't even announce which month it will be released.There are probably good business reasons for announcing an upcoming product, releasing preview screenshots, etc. It helps maintain interest in the product (so you don't spend it on something else in the meantime or forget about it completely). Because of this, the developers are damned if they do announce a new product and damned if they don't.Hope this translates well into your language.Cheers.Ian

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Guest Lobaeux4

HaHa, I bet it's some scheme of PMDG's. "Don't release it, we'll keep it to ourselves, maybe it'll appreciate like real estate!" Haha.Sorry, just thought I'd throw in a little humour, sometimes these posts can become a little serious.

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>January? February?or April, May, June, July, August ....Michael J.WinXP-Home SP2,AMD64 3500+,Abit AV8,Radeon X800Pro,36GB Raptor,1GB PC3200,Audigy 2

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Searched for rectangular shaped object STOP couldn't find it STOP Need further adviceSTOP

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>1) Why they are delaying in such a way to launch the 747?>>2)He would not be ideal to inform a date of launching, exactly>because I find that it would be a respect form before the>users.>>Mauricio One thing that is rightly different than previous PMDG betas' is PMDG trying to perfect the Alpha prior to releasing it to us beta testers. It's not that PMDG did not try with other releases just that plain truth that PMDG have become that much better at this. They are well aware of the type of suggestions we make, a standard that requires many many hours to get right. The amount of things that I personally suggested for the 737 and what acually got into the product would amaze you. PMDG listen and listen well because all of us have come to expect only the best that they can produce. As for time elements, I can take a "jab" that it will certainly be THIS YEAR ;-)[h4]Randy J. Smith[/h4]

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Very true. If someone wanted a plane out in a month, PMDG should then start modeling an Airbus. They just need an up/down switch and two seats. While I am sure the attention to detail on that up/down switch would be great, I imagine it would not take long to model.;-)

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Aah, so the simplicity is the reason why noone has yet managed to deliver a proper and altogether correct Airbus FBW system to us? ;)Have a great weekend all.

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Guest teeloo

Yes I understand. Ian.But why when they have this interest in keeping us "posted" is there nothing posted...Teeloo

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>But why when they have this interest in keeping us "posted" is there nothing posted...Teeloo....I'm not really sure what potential customers expect when the PMDG team say they will keep us posted. Do they expect weekly reports, bi-monthly reports, monthly reports, ....?I think you'll find that several members of the team are still in holiday vacation mode, so there is probably not much to keep you posted on (unless you want to know all about their holidays? :( ). Even in non-holiday mode, this kind of project doesn't move very far forward in a short space of time (A single airplane system may take several weeks to programme, especially when sim programming is your second job: I recall that Mr Randazzo spent several months on the 744 Fuel system alone... and the 744 probably has a few more systems which are just as complex as this, maybe even more so).Hope this makes sense.Cheers.Ian.P.S. I remember reading something in a psychology book about keeping up interest. Some pigeons were fed birdseed every time they pushed a lever (over a period of time). The feeding system was then deactivated. The pigeons soon stopped pushing the lever (after they learned that no food was forthcoming). A second group of pigeons had a similar setup, but they were only fed birdseed randomly when the lever was pushed. When their feeding system was deactivated, it took these pigeons far longer to stop pushing the lever than the first group. I'm not saying PMDG are deliberately using this technique or that everyone out there are pigeons, but rarer/random delivery of progress reports/updates may be a good marketing strategy as interest is maintained much longer :-)

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Guest teeloo

Ahhh, you're right Ian.No real need for posting, really.I am just a person that doesn't like the marketing act of telling people about something that will come up in the future, time unspecified.The good think is, I AM saving my money for the piece of software and nothing else, enjoying the 737NG until the release of the 744. So in that way, the announcement is good for me too and not only PMDG.;-)Teeloo

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Guest teeloo

Oh, and Ian,just a small insight on the drawback on the pigeons theory:Disadvantage is, the expectations by the customer of the end product are rising sky-high when finally released.I am not sure, if PMDG can 'beat that feeling' ;-)I hope they do!! :-)pretty pleeeaaaassseee!?Teeloo

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Guest cw1011

I'm guessing this poster doesn't remember the initial launch of the NG - I am going to guess that neither PMDG nor its customers ever want to go through that again. Take your time guys. Heck, it took DF over 2 years to make its three-holer, but what a terrific product.

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Guest jplieben

I've bought PMDG products since the FLY! days, and there hasn't been one yet that hasn't been worth the wait!Jim Liebenstein

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Guest tango_d

Couldn't agree more with you Jim,Much as it agrieves me - Yep I'm lookin forward to it too, but, Yep I can wait. One things for sure - It will raise the benchmarks way further up again....Which can only be good for us the 'all consuming, consumer' !!Best Regards,Ed

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