May 9, 200719 yr Sorry folks, but I miss quoted! GF is not advertising a fix for PMDG MCP Pro interface problems.Rick
May 12, 200719 yr Manny:I finally caved in and ordered the MCP Pro. Am waiting for it to arrive. Has yours come and if so, is it working normally ?My main concern now is whether I will have adequate PSU for it. My FS9 set-up looks like UAL Denver -- the addiction never ends !Jonathan Jonathan Sacks Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO, 12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals, CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96 FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.
May 15, 200719 yr Jonathan,I got the MCP PRo and the EFIS yesterday.1. I first tested it on the LvL D767 and the MCP Pro works on it But I heard the EFIS does not work on the 767 without some work...so I did not even try.2. I then hooked it up to the PMDG 747 (After I installed the Go Flight interface s/w from PMDG). But I did not see the EFIS on the go flight software (I was told later that it would not show up there and thats ok).And then...I'd be darned! The contraption actually works. :) I have not done a thorough testing or anything... But so far..whatever I did it seems to work as expected. When I tuned the heading knob, I saw the altitude indicator flicker a bit. But other than that everything seems ok.The two black knobs were missing from the EFIS. I called Go flight about that and they are sending those to me. But I used a plyer to turn the APP/VOR/MAP/PLN knob and i think that works too.BTW..what are the two buttons that that says "CWS". Its right below CMD. What is that? What does that do?I did a small flight (autoland) using just the MCP Pro/EFIS and it went very well.. I was very impressed. The bottom line.. I love it. Its one of the best things out there for flying the PMDG 747. And John (I am sure..thats his name) at Go flight is very helpful....if you call him and talk to him for any issues.MannyPS: I need to give a shout out for Go flight. Their radios and stuff... are really versatile and so good. I am beginning to love this company. Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
May 15, 200719 yr Manny:Your initial MCP Pro report looks encouraging. Thanks for posting. Good luck with the EFIS.CWS= Control Wheel Steering. Applies to the 737NG range, not the 747-400. It holds pitch and roll under CMD until you push the yoke/control column to change heading or vertical direction. When you push on the yoke firmly in the NG while under CMD, it kicks into CWS mode. It can also be used positively.GoFlight rocks. I've used their hardware for 4 years now and have the original MCP which I still love and which will be a backup for me in the event of problems with the PRO model. I have 8 or 9 GoFlight modules plus the pedestal and two other smaller housing units. I don't have their thrust console and prolly won't buy it for technical reasons; I love my CH throttle quad greatly and it is very versatile and easy to use. But generally, GoFlight is very good indeed and well worth the investment.My PRO is en route to me from GF. I am nearly getting excited!Jonathan Jonathan Sacks Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO, 12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals, CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96 FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.
May 16, 200719 yr Sorry to say I am having the same frustrating problems with the GF MCP as everyone else is when I use it with the PMDG 737. I have freez-ups, latency problems, blanking of the displays, etc. I am so disappointed! I hope there is an answer to this. This is the ONLY USB item I have plugged into my computer, and I do not have a USB hub, so THAT can't be the problem. I hope this can be worked out because after spending hundreds of dollars on the MCP, and then another $49 on the PMDG driver, this is just not acceptable to have it work so erraticly and so poorly. I am awaiting some good news and some solutions to this problem. Chris Catalano
May 16, 200719 yr Dear Mr.Lefteris Kalamaras.With all respect, I think its about time that you and PMDG lay down some rules regarding your work together with GoFlight inc.As you can see, there is a problem with this module and the PMDG interface.Maby its time you, (as the most powerfull man here, when it comes to talk with GF), try to find some answers to this problem.I think we all have been very pacient regarding this problem, but since it have not worked from the start of your first release of the PMDG interfase, maby its time you took some serius action towards this problem... dont you think so too ??????Again, let me remind you, that the module works fine with Level-D.As you can see, 550$ spend and NO GO !! BEBOB.To be or NOT TO BOB.
May 16, 200719 yr Commercial Member Is that your real name? Bebob? If it is not, please observe forum rules that require you to sign your real name, then come back and discuss respect.Anyway - putting aside the provocative nature of your message, I'll repeat what I've said time and time again: This is not a PMDG software issue, as the problem surfaces with other addons as well (please visit GoFlight's support forum to see).Those of you who have this issue should contact GoFlight for a possible solution - we've done our best contacting GoFlight, but they haven't come forward with a reply or a solution so far. Lefteris Kalamaras - Founder www.flightsimlabs.com
May 16, 200719 yr GF is taking units back and up-grading firmware. They are not saying this is a fix, however, but I do understand it does correct the lockup issues! I have not sent my son's unit back as of yet, but plan to in the near future.Rick
May 16, 200719 yr Rick:What is "firmware"? Is it hardware as opposed to software? Do you and/or GF believe that this is a "hard-wired" issue?Jonathan Jonathan Sacks Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO, 12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals, CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96 FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.
May 17, 200719 yr All right Jonathan.I received the black knobs and that works fine. That was real fast they sent that.But I have an issue. Actually two issues. When I turn the heading knob, the flicker has gotten worse and I lose the display. But if I jiggle the knob a bit I get it back.Another thing is.. the display freezes for a short while. The Speed indicator for isntance. When I turn, I can see the MCP in the 747 increasing..but not the display. but after a while I get it back.Hopefully it won't get worse.Manny Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
May 17, 200719 yr >Is that your real name? Bebob? If it is not, please observe>forum rules that require you to sign your real name, then come>back and discuss respect.>>Anyway - putting aside the provocative nature of your message,>I'll repeat what I've said time and time again: This is not a>PMDG software issue, as the problem surfaces with other addons>as well (please visit GoFlight's support forum to see).>>Those of you who have this issue should contact GoFlight for a>possible solution - we've done our best contacting GoFlight,>but they haven't come forward with a reply or a solution so>far.Dear Lefteris.Please focus on the ball.All i am saying is that since PMDG went in on the compagniship with GF and got your money out of it you are now official a player...right ? ( every other company that did what you did gave their interface away for free ..remember that....) But you guys are getting money for you interface...wich is fine with me, but that also takes this whole issue to another level.Put that aside im not trying to provocate...well maby a little... but im only saying that we ar now ont the 6 page with this problem and still no solution.You have from the beginning, as i see it, not taking any responsability at all for this problem . I am not saying that its PMDG's problem but you still have a responsability as i see it.That is why i call you " The most powerfull man here". I think by you contacting GF it is a lot more effective then 20 of us.Greetings from Denmark.BEBOB.To be or not to bob.
May 17, 200719 yr Commercial Member Dear BEBOB-Did you actually answer my question on whether that's your real name? No. So much for respect.If you are trying to provoke, you're doing a good job. As for responsibility on the problem, I'll let the other customers who've received help for their unit comment. I've contacted GoFlight many times on the issue. They know about it, but they obviously choose not to post replies on this forum - that's their prerogative. People who have contacted them directly about their problematic units have received help already.If you choose to complain loudly, thinking that I am not taking responsibility, that's your choice as well. If you, instead, wish to correct your problem, contact GoFlight. Apparently, they're the ones with the solution - PMDG has no control over defective firmware or hardware.Please don't continue on this tone - you'll only make me lock the thread and it's not fair for others who wish to discuss things nicely. Lefteris Kalamaras - Founder www.flightsimlabs.com
May 17, 200719 yr >Rick:>>What is "firmware"? Is it hardware as opposed to software? >Do you and/or GF believe that this is a "hard-wired" issue?>>JonathanThis is software imbedded in a hardware device(ROM) used to initialize the intelligent components on the MCP (e.g., like BIOS on your PC)
May 17, 200719 yr I called GF today. A man named John told me that GF definitely believes that it is a PMDG driver problem, especially since the MCP Pro seems to work very well with the default AC and the Level D 7-6. He offered to take the unit back for the firmware update, but did not believe it would fix the locking up, freezing, and lag time problems. The update would only help a very few people who are experiencing unwanted resets during flight he said. As such, they are not calling this a "fix" to the PMDG problem. He said only one unit was returned for this fix, and the person who got the updated MCP unit, whoever that was, has not called back to let them know if this had any positive effect on the PMDG 737NG problem. Seems like we have a real problem here becuase PMDG seems to believe it is the Go Flight MCP that is the cause of the problem, and Go Flight seems to think the PMDG driver is the cause of the problem. So what do we all do now? I feel helplessly in the middle, especially since I payed the $49 for the PMDG driver with the expectation that this was all I would need to run the 737NG correctly. John told me that very few people have called Go Flight about this problem. Perhaps the rest of you should call to complain as I did since they don't seem to think that this problem is effecting too many of us. In the mean time, what he said seemed to make a lot of sense. How could the MCP work nicely with the default A/C, the Level D, and the PMDG 747 if it is a Go Flight MCP issue? I feel very much in the middle with no support.Chris Catalano
May 17, 200719 yr Chris,did you try hooking up with the default 737 in FS9? and check it out?I just did. And the issues that I faced (Turning the heading knb) makes the heading and altitiude display flicker and black out for a while happen even in the default aircraft.This is so confusing. :)Manny Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
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