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Hi - I am planning on flying United's "Capital 1" (I believe it's called) route, from KIAD (DC) to ZBAA (Beijing). I used FS Build to create a flight plan but I was wondering if there is a way to figure out the route United uses so I can replicate it. Any ideas would be appreciated!!! Richard

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I doubt that they use a fixed route considering that winds change from day to day.Karsten.

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Hi Karsten - you just taught me something new. I didn't realize airlines changed routes, i knew they sometimes deviate due to weather etc.. But it does make sense that thee would change the routes to take advantage of the winds.Richard

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The most obvious changes are on flights across the Atlantic and Pacific were daily routes available to cross for weather and winds are announced. If you use FSBuild you can account for that since the programm can plot the routes in effect. In the case of this specific route however you won't need them, since you'll get a polar route and there are no tracks to follow there.One word of advice though. If you fly this in FS9 you might encounter problems if you come to close to the pole.Karsten

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Todays's route:UAL897 KIAD ZBAA B744/Q 34000BUFFR J518 IHD J518 DJB ALPHE J34 GRR GRB MPCEG YNE 5900N 10000W 6500N 10400W 6900N 11000W 7200N 12000W 7700N 14000W ORVIT G494 IBDIN G494 IDORA G494 SIMLI A588 QD A588 HRB G212 LR HURJim Harnes

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Hi, from flightaware.comMAY 22 UA897BUFFR J518 IHD J518 DJB ALPHE J34 GRR GRB MPCEG YNE 5900N 10000W 6500N 10400W 6900N 11000W 7200N 12000W 7700N 14000W ORVIT G494 IBDIN G494 IDORA G494 SIMLI A588 QD A588 HRB G212 LR HURplug it in into FSbuild ..you will get a really "REAL" flight if you also have ASV....Ben

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Hi all - just wanted to say thanks to all of you for the routes. I will be putting in some serious sim time this weekend. The wife and kids are out of town for the long weekend so it should be good simming!!!

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It would changes daily based on wind/wx/polar track scheduling etc

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START OF COMPANY FLIGHTPLAN UAL0897 07.05.24 KIADZBAA.001 SEQ008 RLS000 WARNINGS :- ZFW reduced, Limited Zero Fuel Weight.- ZFW reduced, Limited Take Off Weight.AIRCRAFT B744--CF6-GE STD 22.00Z ATD ..... ABN ..... TYPE 400E STA 12.30Z T/D ..... ATA ..... ROUTE INFORMATION: CREW INFORMATION: DIST 6423 TRACK INDEX 107 DISP: *DSP /.................. ESAD 6702 COMPONENT H018 PIC: *PIC /.................. CRSM LRC CLIMB NCL REM: // M.86 CRZ infos // 13.43 FT // 154.44 t fuel // max ZFW 224.98 t // // TOF 169.46 t //FUEL CALCULATION: ALL IN TO WEIGHT/FUEL BREAK DOWN: ALL IN KG BIAS 1000 ZFW 227513 246072 TAXI 1,00 TOF 167113 173425 ZBAA 152,22 13.56 TOW 394626 394626 RR 6,26 00.34 TIF 152216 ZGGG* 4,22 00,22 FL070 LW 242410 285764 FR 4,42 00.30 REM 14897 CF 0,00 HF 0,00 AIRPORTS: ALL IN TO MIN 168,11 15,22 ADD 0,00 ACT 168,11 NOTES :- Route exeeds 105 per cent of GC !- CALCULATED 1ST ALTERNATE ONLY- UWX DATA FILES IN USE : 20070525.00U / 20070525.06U / 20070525.12U- STOPS/EROPS NOT CALCULATEDRTE VIA : PRYME2-BUFFR / J518-DJB / DCT-ALPHE / J34-GRR / DCT-GRB / DCT-MPCEG / DCT-YNE / DCT-59N00 / DCT-TADOM / DCT-69N10 / DCT-72N20 / DCT-TAVRI / DCT-ORVIT / G494-SIMLI / A588-HRB / G212-LR / LR21A-HUR / (D18L-WF)DIST 6423 GCI 107 CP H018 ESAD 6702 CRSM LRC REM: //M.86 CRZ infos// 13:43 FT// 154.44 t fuel// max ZFW 224.98 t// TOF 169.46FLIGHT PROFILE :AVERE/F280 - 59N00/F300 - 72N20/F320 - ORVIT/S0960 - DILSA/S1010 - TURDI/S1060 - UESO/F348 - VIKBI/S1060 - QD/S1080[FF]FLIGHTPLAN: AWY POS FREQ FL MT DIST TME ATO ETO ETA EET FUEL FOB RFU ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ KIAD 0,00 ..../..../..../0,00 0,00 /.....167,1PRYME2 FUREE F007 025 003,8 0,00 ..../..../..../00.00 0,21 /.....166,9PRYME2 THUMM F021 350 006,8 0,01 ..../..../..../00.01 0,61 /.....166,5PRYME2 PRYME F028 350 003,6 0,00 ..../..../..../00.01 0,81 /.....166,3PRYME2 HAZLE F042 358 006,9 0,01 ..../..../..../00.02 1,19 /.....165,9PRYME2 BUFFR F066 358 011,1 0,02 ..../..../..../00.04 1,86 /.....165,2J518 MCRAY F093 302 013,0 0,02 ..../..../..../00.06 2,59 /.....164,5J518 IHD 108.20 F238 301 074,0 0,10 ..../..../..../00.16 6,35 /.....160,7J518 LEJOY F242 310 003,1 0,00 ..../..../..../00.16 6,47 /.....160,6* TOC AVERE D-006 J518 AVERE F280 313 035,5 0,05 ..../..../..../00.21 7,81 /.....159,3J518 KODIE F280 312 015,0 0,02 ..../..../..../00.23 8,20 /.....158,9J518 LIVER F280 312 022,3 0,03 ..../..../..../00.26 8,77 /.....158,3J518 DJB 113.60 F280 310 076,5 0,09 ..../..../..../00.35 10,75 /.....156,3DCT ALPHE F280 310 123,3 0,15 ..../..../..../00.50 14,04 /.....153,0J34 HASTE F280 302 032,3 0,04 ..../..../..../00.54 14,92 /.....152,1J34 GRR 115.95 F280 300 016,1 0,02 ..../..../..../00.56 15,36 /.....151,7DCT GRB 115.50 F280 318 158,2 0,18 ..../..../..../01.14 19,25 /.....147,8DCT MPCEG F280 340 219,5 0,22 ..../..../..../01.36 23,91 /.....143,2DCT YNE 0207.0 F280 325 466,3 0,56 ..../..../..../02.32 35,84 /.....131,2DCT 59N00 F300 341 310,4 0,39 ..../..../..../03.11 43,82 /.....123,3DCT TADOM F300 325 237,9 0,29 ..../..../..../03.40 49,68 /.....117,4DCT 69N10 F300 330 420,2 1,03 ..../..../..../04.43 61,97 /.....105,1DCT 72N20 F320 294 269,0 0,36 ..../..../..../05.19 68,90 /.....98,22DCT TAVRI F320 305 336,8 0,44 ..../..../..../06.03 76,96 /.....90,16DCT ORVIT 0960 272 737,5 1,33 ..../..../..../07.36 93,65 /.....73,46G494 DILSA 1010 171 120,8 0,15 ..../..../..../07.51 96,31 /.....70,80G494 TURDI 1060 235 379,3 0,48 ..../..../..../08.39 104,45/.....62,67G494 UTARO 1060 231 049,9 0,06 ..../..../..../08.45 105,49/.....61,62G494 UESO F348 228 097,6 0,13 ..../..../..../08.58 107,55/.....59,56G494 VIKBI 1060 234 176,5 0,26 ..../..../..../09.24 111,72/.....55,39G494 UBIBA 1060 231 212,2 0,28 ..../..../..../09.52 116,19/.....50,92G494 POBOT 1060 227 208,8 0,26 ..../..../..../10.18 120,22/.....46,90G494 ROTOK 1060 223 184,4 0,23 ..../..../..../10.41 123,76/.....43,35G494 UR 0325.0 1060 220 050,6 0,06 ..../..../..../10.47 124,72/.....42,39G494 IBDIN 1060 224 084,0 0,11 ..../..../..../10.58 126,32/.....40,79G494 IDORA 1060 223 048,9 0,06 ..../..../..../11.04 127,22/.....39,89G494 RONET 1060 222 033,0 0,04 ..../..../..../11.08 127,85/.....39,27G494 OLOTO 1060 222 026,3 0,03 ..../..../..../11.11 128,34/.....38,78G494 ARKOD 1060 220 040,1 0,05 ..../..../..../11.16 129,09/.....38,02G494 LALIR 1060 196 031,3 0,04 ..../..../..../11.20 129,70/.....37,41G494 NALEB 1060 196 064,5 0,08 ..../..../..../11.28 130,96/.....36,15G494 SOVIK 1060 184 066,5 0,10 ..../..../..../11.38 132,39/.....34,72G494 NINON 1060 184 038,9 0,06 ..../..../..../11.44 133,26/.....33,85G494 REPSA 1060 192 014,4 0,02 ..../..../..../11.46 133,58/.....33,53G494 BANIR 1060 192 026,1 0,04 ..../..../..../11.50 134,17/.....32,94G494 BLG 113.60 1060 201 056,7 0,08 ..../..../..../11.58 135,29/.....31,82G494 SIMLI 1060 212 006,6 0,01 ..../..../..../11.59 135,41/.....31,70A588 QD 0578.0 1080 198 011,5 0,01 ..../..../..../12.00 135,67/.....31,44A588 HRB 112.50 1080 201 272,4 0,34 ..../..../..../12.34 140,57/.....26,55G212 FYU 113.70 1080 246 074,9 0,10 ..../..../..../12.44 141,99/.....25,13G212 OTABO 1080 244 046,9 0,06 ..../..../..../12.50 142,86/.....24,25G212 TGO 116.30 1080 244 091,6 0,13 ..../..../..../13.03 144,66/.....22,45G212 BEDOG 1080 242 206,9 0,36 ..../..../..../13.39 149,67/.....17,45* TOD LR D-057 G212 LR 0215.0 0450 240 081,0 0,12 ..../..../..../13.51 150,42/.....16,70LR21A HUR 113.60 0210 226 023,8 0,04 ..../..../..../13.55 150,67/.....16,45D18L 73HUR F043 286 007,3 0,01 ..../..../..../13.56 150,74/.....16,37D18L DME18 F039 275 001,9 0,00 ..../..../..../13.56 150,74/.....16,37 ZBAA 0,00 ..../..../..../13.56 152,2 /.....14,90[FF]WAYPOINTS AND WINDS : ENROUTEICAO FREQ LATITUDE LONGITUDE MAG WD

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A safe ending, but I can just imagine the passenger chaos at Dulles right now.May 25, 2007 - 2:32pmWASHINGTON - A passenger jet on its way to Beijing returned to Dulles Airport after reports of flames coming out of an engine at takeoff. United Airlines flight 897 had an engine flame-out, soon after it took off at 12:55 p.m. The 747 has four engines, and can fly safely with three, but the decision was made to bring the plane back, rather than send it across the ocean. The plane dumped fuel before it landed safely. United says flight 897 had 330 passengers and 19 crew onboard. The airline's working with passengers at Dulles to help them eventually get to Beijing. (Copyright 2007 by WTOP and The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

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You forgot to include that the plane was a "Airbus 747-600", plus the usual passenger quotes "This is the worst experience I've ever had", "...and then there was a loud noise coming from one of the motors", and "I will never fly this airline again!" :-lolSubin>>WASHINGTON - A passenger jet on its way to Beijing returned to>Dulles Airport after reports of flames coming out of an engine>at takeoff. United Airlines flight 897 had an engine>flame-out, soon after it took off at 12:55 p.m. The 747 has>four engines, and can fly safely with three, but the decision>was made to bring the plane back, rather than send it across>the ocean. >>The plane dumped fuel before it landed safely. United says>flight 897 had 330 passengers and 19 crew onboard. The>airline's working with passengers at Dulles to help them>eventually get to Beijing. (Copyright 2007 by WTOP and The>Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

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Phil P,Is FOC worth getting? I currently use FSbuild.Many thanks!

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