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If you like flying in Minnesota, Wisconsin and South Dakota, go check out the Avsim Library! I've just uploaded scenery for 26 airports: 18 in Minnesota; five in Wisconsin; and three in South Dakota; bringing some much-needed life to this part of the United States.In the library, click "What's New" or search for:northern_minnesota_airports.zipcentral_minnesota_airports.zipsouthern_minnesota_airports.zipwisconsin_regional_airports.zipsouth_dakota_regional_airports.zipAll sceneries have been made using the RWY12 object libraries. These packages represent nearly five months of work; after years of enjoying the many fine files in the library, I thought it was time to give back. I hope you enjoy these airports!Have fun and happy flying!:-cool(PS: If you feel like some good cold weather flying, point your sim up toward Minnesota this weekend - the forecast calls for lows of -20F. Yeeha!)Cheers,EricSt. Cloud RegionalKSTC

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Something I just thought of... A while ago the wonderful freeware Saab 340 from FFG was updated to work properly in FS2004. Several repaints were updated and released for the FS2004 compatible model - but alas, never one for Northwest Airlink/Mesaba Airlines. Regrettably, only the FS2002 paint exists for the FFG Saab.Any talented painters out in the community feel like taking this one on? It'd be perfect for flying to all of these Northwest Airlink destinations.Regards,Eric

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Minnesota has been sorely missed in Flight Simulator. Thank goodness for the freeware guys. I'm a little disturbed that KMSP has never been professionally done in Flight Simulator (FSX default doesn't count at this point). It's a shame developers have overlooked KMSP for so long. Simflyer's version may never see the light of day. :-(Thanks for your effort here...

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I've been using Mike Stone's SF34 but with my own "hybrid" panel. I have it in NW Airlink paint.www.pmstone.com

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Dillon -Patrick Finch did the next best thing, giving us some scenery of MSP with roughly the default terminal buildings and some jetways (he did lengthen the concourses to fit most of the gates in). It isn't nearly as detailed as Ron Ackerley's wonderful FS2000 scenery, but I'll take it over nothing any day! Patrick also did some modifications to the cargo areas. I think his scenery is available over at Flightsim.com. It's certainly quite an improvement over the default.Ron -Thanks for the tip. I'm a big fan of Mike Stone's SF34 - and there's really a nice Mesaba repaint available for it, as you noted. I'm still hoping for the FFG Saab someday because the model is so detailed (air stairs and all). But kudos to Mr. Stone for giving us this great aircraft!Eric

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I installed the Wis-Regional file last night and took a look. Thanks for enhancing those locations. You did a fine job! I'd like to see an upgrade of the Sheboygan WI airport. There is no commercial traffic, but it's home for about 165 planes.Part of the secret of success in life is to eat what you like -M.Twain

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Thanks for the Minnesota sceneries. The snapshot of St Cloud looks great. I'll have to fly a few more hops between KSTC and KMSP this frigid weekend. I've got a Saab in Airlink's new colors. Can't remember if it's Mike Stone's model. I too wish FlyTampa or Imagine would tackle a nice payware scenery for KMSP. I've given up on SimFlyers. Talk about disapointment there with their on again/off again development since 2004. I use a freeware enhancement for KMSP by Jim Vile:kmsp_ils_v1.1.zipI like it a bit better than the Patrick Finch scenery. The way he joined the A & B concourses together was very unrealistic. Does anyone know if it's possible to take just the Lindberg Terminal and concourses from Ron's KMSP 2000 scenery and paste them into Vile or Finch's scenery? I know we'd need an exclude switch for the terminal and concourse area. If it could be done it might be our only hope for a more realistic KMSP scenery.

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>Something I just thought of... A while ago the wonderful>freeware Saab 340 from FFG was updated to work properly in>FS2004. Several repaints were updated and released for the>FS2004 compatible model - but alas, never one for Northwest>Airlink/Mesaba Airlines. Regrettably, only the FS2002 paint>exists for the FFG Saab.>>Any talented painters out in the community feel like taking>this one on? It'd be perfect for flying to all of these>Northwest Airlink destinations.>>Regards,>Eric>Hey Eric,From one freeware contributor to another...I will see if I can paint her up for you. :)Right now I am heavily involved in releasing my EMB-120 liveries, and I have released several that may have flown into your areas of interest, so you might check them out as an alternative while I look at the Saab textures. ;)I can't promise I will be able to paint the Saab, never painting that model before, but I will let you know if its do-able when I get home from work tonight and evaluate the paintkit.I always try to take special interest in other freeware contributor's requests when I can, and your effort with these mid-west sceneries more than warrants a special request grant. ;)Regards,Steve Drahttp://img47.photobucket.com/albums/v144/S...Dra/banner1.jpgDownload my planes at Avsim here:http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID...&Go=Change+View

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Hey, Stave,Ah man, don't go putting your time into painting other planes.. Every day when I come home from work I look at the new files here to see if you've done another 120.:-) ( I don't dare look in the "What's new" file section.. that would ruin the surprise....Just kidding, it's always great to see your wonderful work on any aircraft you chose to paint. I have a 340 also but it's not a free one.... If you paint the FFG, I'd get it..Thanks for all your efforts...

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Your signature just reminded me of the old DC-3's that had the Flying Goose on the tail. When I visited relatives in Wausau, WI, the approach path was just about right over their house. Part of the secret of success in life is to eat what you like -M.Twain

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Andy -I'll look for you this weekend! :-lolI live in northwest Maple Grove and every evening around 9:45 I hear the last Saab flight of the night go buzzing over my house en route to St. Cloud. There's nothing quite so distinct as the roar of those GE turboprops! When I was in high school, I lived about four miles from STC and on still summer nights, through my open window, I could sometimes faintly hear the Saab's shutdown growl.I've also been a passenger on that flight many times and am always amazed how it's hardly 15 minutes between wheels up at MSP and touchdown at STC. Sure beats traffic and parking fees.I have not tried Jim Vile's scenery. I actually worked in consultation with Patrick Finch on the MSP scenery; after I saw in a readme that he was thinking about working on one if he could figure the excludes out, I sent him an e-mail. Not to knock his work, because it's great, but I never did get that he made that connection to Concourse B...but after the scenery was released he made an exclude for it available. I think I ended up switching it off with an exclude comment in my scenery.cfg file. Call me a realist.As for messing around with the Ron Ackerly's FS2000 scenery...I tried bits and pieces in FS2004 and it never worked right. Some of the objects didn't show up, and it didn't seem to be designed so you could use some files and not others. Plus, I prefer to have MSP with the new regional concourse configuration. But I wonder if any of the talented scenery gurus here on the forums know anything about this?Thanks for your comments!Eric

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Steve -MUCH APPRECIATED! Many thanks just for taking a look at this. I've heard that the FFG Saab has a fairly complex paintkit. The old textures show up OK on the tail and engines, I think...just not the fueslage.Thanks for all of your wonderful work for us simmers. Those awesome EMB-120 paints caught my eye right away. I've been too busy with my scenery project to play with the sim much lately, but I do look forward to taking that Skywest Delta Connection EMB-120 for a spin very soon.Keep us posted!Eric

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>Your signature just reminded me of the old DC-3's that had>the Flying Goose on the tail. When I visited relatives in>Wausau, WI, the approach path was just about right over their>house. That would be North Central. If you hunt some of the propliner sites you can find some of their paints.scott s..

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>Steve ->>MUCH APPRECIATED! Many thanks just for taking a look at this.>I've heard that the FFG Saab has a fairly complex paintkit.>The old textures show up OK on the tail and engines, I>think...just not the fueslage.>>Thanks for all of your wonderful work for us simmers. Those>awesome EMB-120 paints caught my eye right away. I've been too>busy with my scenery project to play with the sim much lately,>but I do look forward to taking that Skywest Delta Connection>EMB-120 for a spin very soon.>>Keep us posted!>>EricHey Eric,I can paint her just fine....http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/166204.jpgThe problem that I won't be able to solve (trust me I've tried) is how to get it on the "unique" texture maps for her to display in flightsim.To say the method used to create the texture maps for this model are unorthodox would be an understatement. :)If someone knows how to transfer my textures to the texture map, please let me know I and will be happy to provide you with my textures. Otherwise, Im afraid this plane won't have a NWA Airlink paint from me flying in the FS world. :(Regards,Steve Drahttp://img47.photobucket.com/albums/v144/S...Dra/banner1.jpgDownload my planes at Avsim here:http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID...&Go=Change+View

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>Hey, Stave,>Ah man, don't go putting your time into painting other>planes.. Every day when I come home from work I look at the>new files here to see if you've done another 120.:-) ( I don't>dare look in the "What's new" file section.. that would ruin>the surprise....>Just kidding, it's always great to see your wonderful work on>any aircraft you chose to paint. I have a 340 also but it's>not a free one.... If you paint the FFG, I'd get it..>Thanks for all your efforts...>>>Thanks Bill!I'll keep the 120 production line rolling, don't worry about that....:)If there is a livery you want to see on the 120, let me know and I'll see what I can do for such an avid supporter. ;)Also, if anyone can point me in the directon of any paintkit that might exist for the payware Saab 340, I can sure take a look at it to see if I can paint her up in the NWA colors as well. (although I'd have to have somebody test the textures for me in the flightsim since I don't have the package)Regards,Steve Drahttp://img47.photobucket.com/albums/v144/S...Dra/banner1.jpgDownload my planes at Avsim here:http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID...&Go=Change+View

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Hi Steve,That's very kind of you to offer.. I'd be glad to take you up on it.Having just spent about an hour at Airliners.net, I started out with about 15, got it down to 10.. etc.. This plane really lends itself to some nice liveries...The first is the most unusual, butI find all interestingSo, if it is ok, I'll let you choose one... http://us.airliners.net/photos/middle/7/5/6/1001657.jpg http://us.airliners.net/photos/middle/8/4/5/1117548.jpg http://us.airliners.net/photos/middle/6/9/2/1167296.jpg http://us.airliners.net/photos/middle/0/4/7/1041740.jpg Thank you again,

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Steve, Wow! That's weird. I 'saved image location" and when I clicked on the links they worked. But I also didn't look at my post after posting...Here are the URLs -I like all four so I will let you choose one..Isn't there a way to post a link without it being so long? I've done it before but.. ??And (we are hijacking the thread.) :-doh Champion Airhttp://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1001...FP&photo_nr=278Atlantic Air Assistancehttp://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1167...QRFP&photo_nr=4Swift Air-- white with blue dotshttp://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1117...RFP&photo_nr=95Aerojet--green stripehttp://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1041...FP&photo_nr=214Cheers,

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Eric, Thanks for the sceneries :-) Just dowloaded them and the PC-12 is getting warmed up, really warmed up. Hope you're not frozen yet. Here in KGRB (10:14 CST) it's -8F, DP -20F, Wind Chill -31F. My car didn't start this morning. The oil is, well, tar. Pushed it in the garage and the torpedo heater is fired up. Hoping to get it running by superbowl time... Fingers crossed.Thanks again for the sceneries, STAY WARM!!! Regards,Roman

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I use Ron Ackerly's KMSP2000. Be aware that there is an upgrade file to this on Flightsim. In it it breaks out some of the .bgl files so if you have frame rate difficulties you can leave out fences, trees, and some lights. With moving cars on surrounding highways and cars in the parking ramps, plus scenery objects behind the reflective glass, it really looked good. Night scenery was fantastic. It does load down frame rates.I modified an afcad to match his scenery taxi paths.There is no HH terminal in his scenery nor the commuter island on the east side.All details do show but make sure your scenery complexity slider is at almost maximum.I used RWY12 to cascade dome terminal buildings for the missing stuff just playing around.I tried Patrick Finche's version but did not care for the above ground link to the East Commuter Terinal.I will be trying Jim Vile's scenery.As far as KMSP's place in the world in 2005 it was nineteenth in passenger count and its airline route structures can be very interesting. Northwest and Fed-Ex have large cargo complexes here. I think its layout with all the facilities would be pretty interesting to finish.

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