May 9, 200818 yr Over the years I have read in various Forae that Antialiasshould be adjusted in the Graphic Card settings and turned offinside the Sim.Some months ago I purchased an Nvidia 8800GT and after playing with the settings I found I still had jaggies, even though ithad been set to the highest level. So I tried having it enabledin both FS and Graphic Card settings and found all my jaggieshad disappeared. What is more haven't found any hit in performance,but rather a slight improvement.Similar contradictory result with the Render to Texture setting.Turned it off even though I use some DXT textures and never hada single crash.Question is, how much should we trust these so called settingstweaks in Forae. Regards Joaquin Blanco Intel Core i9-9900K at 5Ghz, Corsair Hydro H100i RGB PLATINUM CPU cooler, Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E,Motherboard, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB GDDR6, G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Memory, 500GB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS M.2 PCIe,2TB Samsung 860 QVO Solid State Drive, 2TB, 2 x Samsung 860 Evo 2TB, 1 x 1TB Samsung 860 Evo, Corsair RM650x 80 PLUS Gold 650W PSU.
May 9, 200818 yr The simple answer is that if it works for you and your system, go for it and don't worry about anything else. Every PC seems to have a very slightly different configuration and some things that work for one person may not work at all for another and vice versa. If your sim performance is actually improved by setting AA to on, even better! JS Jonathan Sacks Dell XPS Gen 4, Pentium IV Northwood extreme 3.8Ghz, 3Ghz RAM, eVGA 7900 GTO, 12 GoFlight modules plus MCP-PRO AP and EFIS, GF pedestal, CH rudder pedals, CH throttle quadrant, 42" LG LED, 24" DELL LCD, Windows XP, FS2004, FSUIPC 3.96 FS Autostart 1.1 (Build 11), FS Navigator 4.6, UT, FE, GE, REX, PMDG, Level-D, PSS, etc.
May 9, 200818 yr My experience as well. I switched from a Radeon 1650 Pro to the Geforce 8800 GT and run AA "on" in the sim and at 16X in Nhancer. I also have trilinear filtering set in the sim and the graphics and frame rates are great.
May 9, 200818 yr Author Thanks guys for the replies, good to know some of you areexperiencing similar results.Regards Joaquin Blanco Intel Core i9-9900K at 5Ghz, Corsair Hydro H100i RGB PLATINUM CPU cooler, Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E,Motherboard, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB GDDR6, G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Memory, 500GB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS M.2 PCIe,2TB Samsung 860 QVO Solid State Drive, 2TB, 2 x Samsung 860 Evo 2TB, 1 x 1TB Samsung 860 Evo, Corsair RM650x 80 PLUS Gold 650W PSU.
May 9, 200818 yr Search the hardware forum, for the way to unlock the power of your new card. You are seeing the full effect of it yet. You have to copy the FS profile, then delete it, or something like this.Rick
May 9, 200818 yr Yes, Antialiasing is weird with the newer Nvidia cards.In fact, I think I had better AA and better frame rates with my 7800 SLI setup!!!!! If you h4X0r about being 1337, then you can adjust the settings. 16XS is awesome but waaaaay to slow for me on a 8800GT.So I just went back to application controlled and left it at that.
May 9, 200818 yr Bought a nVidea 7600GS 4 months ago and, with nHancer, I get excellent results. I, too, have AA activated on FS9, contrary to all I've read, and my jaggies are virtually gone with great FPS. It really does depend on one's system and thinking 'outside the box' is often a good thing.Bob
May 10, 200818 yr please.. search for nhancer on the forums, disable the profile, and enchance, it does make a difference!JohanA LITTLE LESS CONVERSATION, AND A LITTLE MORE ACTION PLEASE..http://www.jdserver.mine.nu/johanhttp://www.jdserver.mine.nu/va
May 10, 200818 yr I suspect that what is being reported here is a difference between ATI and nVidia cards. No question that using the videocard settings in my system is far preferable to doing it in the sim.But then, I do have an older system and a less than cutting edge ATI card. I also still have the cost differential in my bank account.:-beerchugMy antiquegigaByte 8INXP @ Intel [email protected] HT Enabled2G PC 266RAM3 7200RPM ATA HDsTurtle Beach Santa Cruz soundATI Radeon x850Pro 256, CAT 8.4 w/o Cat Control Center (ATI Tray Tools)WinXP SP3Ed GreenKCLThttp://www.oncourse-software.co.uk/forum_images/fdc_beta.jpg
May 23, 200818 yr My AA works only with AA turned on in game also. But for some strange reason, my 2D panel doesn't completely fill up the screen (thus leaving some tiny strips on the edges) when AA is turned on in the Hardware settings in FS9. I've played with the settings but AA is the culprit of my 2D problem. I guess I just have to run FS9 w/o AA even though my system is more than enough to run all settings maxed with high AA/AF.But has anyone had this problem before? If so, what did you do to fix it?System specs: E8400, Rampage Formula, Crucial Ballistix 4GB, 9800GTX, Windows XP SP2, LG L246WP.
May 23, 200818 yr Just went through it myself with an 8800GT. I found that if I left an FS9 game profile active in nHanser or the Nvidia control panel (they're connected, BTW), no manner of jiggering with nHanser, the Nvidia control panel settings or in-game settings would enable any level of AA in FS9. The jaggies would not go away. I tried to delete the game profile, but it would not delete. Finally, I deleted nHanser's FS9 game profile association with the corresponding "FS9.exe" file. nHanser complained the profile would not autoload because I had deleted its .exe file. "Good." I mumbled. "That's the point." I looked in on Nvidia's control panel and found the nHanser action had also deleted the FS9 profile in the N's control panel. They are connected. Then, I went back into nHanser and set the Global settings to AA Combined/8xS, "Enhance in-game AA settings" Off, Gamma correction On, AS to 16X, Vert Sync On. The idea was FS9 would then use these Global settings. Then, I fired up the game and checked AA in FS9's hardware tab. Bingo. Finally, I got AA. Looks pretty good too. With FS9 versions of my FSX-standard scenery/mesh/landclass add-on sets of GE/FE/UT/FSG and the FSG landclass, I Can tell a difference between my standard benchie: "Manhattan Flyby, Hudson River run" in FS9 vs FSX . . . but Not much. It's such pleasure to turn the corner over Manhattan at RW31's IAP at 40-60 FPS in the PMDG 744. Such a pleasure.
May 23, 200818 yr Author If you have a flat panel monitor (LCD) this problemcould be caused by the wrong scaling setting.Go to Nvidia settings and choose (if available)the option to use your monitor's built in scaling.Good luck.Regards Joaquin Blanco Intel Core i9-9900K at 5Ghz, Corsair Hydro H100i RGB PLATINUM CPU cooler, Asus ROG STRIX Z390-E,Motherboard, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Super 8GB GDDR6, G.Skill Trident Z RGB 32GB DDR4 3200MHz Memory, 500GB Samsung 970 EVO PLUS M.2 PCIe,2TB Samsung 860 QVO Solid State Drive, 2TB, 2 x Samsung 860 Evo 2TB, 1 x 1TB Samsung 860 Evo, Corsair RM650x 80 PLUS Gold 650W PSU.
May 23, 200818 yr Hi, Sam. In all my installs and uninstalls between my nVidia card and the ATI X2 I've been doing over the past month based on some of your suggestions (and everyone elses) over in the Hardware Forum, I have learned that the two secrets with the nVidia card on my system was to COPY the default FS9 profile in nHancer, as directed in the various recent threads, and then go back to the v169 drivers. The copying of the default profile is critical -- I always rename the copied profile and disassociate it from fs9.exe, too -- as is the complete reboot after setting preferences. AA is now sharp as a tack on my 8800 GTX.This whole AA/nHancer/Control Panel/Add/Delete/Driver Clean/Boot/Reboot has had me pulling my hair out and has been a big time waster in diagnosing my other problems -- this is exactly why I ended up running to ATI last year.BTW. I just finished reformtting my hard drive and reinstalling XP -- tonight I reinstall FS9 and hopefully fly all weekend. But that's a story for another . . . er . . . forum. Smooth Skies! -- Chuck B. MACHINE 1:FS2004/WinXP Pro 64, Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Clocked to 4.35 GHz, Corsair H50, Asus Maximus Formula, 4GB PNY XLR8 DDR2 @1067, ATI 4870 and 4650, WD Raptor 10K RPM 160 GB HD, Seagate 500 mgb 32mgb cache, 2 Analog 2HTGs w/ 3 19" I-INC flat panel monitors 1280x1024x32, and 1 17" at 1280 x 1024, PC Silencer 750 Quad, FSPassengers, FSUPIC, (Payware), WideFS MACHINE 2: Dell Dimension, P4, WideClient, FDC Live Cockpit, Pro Flight Emulator, Active Sky v6.5 MACHINE 3: ASUS u81A Laptop, Windows 7 (what a joke!), WideClient, FlightSim Commander
May 23, 200818 yr By whatever means, the trick (for FS9) is to remove Any nVidia profile association with FS9.exe. FS9 does not like to run with a profile. Don't let nVidia load a profile for FS9. Force the sim to run with the Global settings. Do whatever is necessary to disassociate the FS9.exe with Any Control panel or nHanser profile. If copy/paste/stand-on-one's-head does that, do that. Then check the AA box in the game. FSX runs OK with nVidia's profile feature. Nothing special there except to select a good set of options in the FSX profile.
May 23, 200818 yr >FS9 does not like to run with a profile. Don't let nVidia load a >profile for FS9.I
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