November 22, 200916 yr It looks like the Level D 767 is great, and the PMDG planes (I'm waiting for their 737). Any others that are particularly good? Wilco Airbus or Embraer series?Also, are the Project Opensky models full planes? or just exteriors?Thx!
November 22, 200916 yr It looks like the Level D 767 is great, and the PMDG planes (I'm waiting for their 737). Any others that are particularly good? Wilco Airbus or Embraer series?Also, are the Project Opensky models full planes? or just exteriors?Thx!Hello, Jeff. Welcome to the forums!CaptainSim has some very good aircraft you might want to check out (727, 757, and 767). The Feelthere V2 Embraer series (I have yet to purchase) seems to be getting quite a few accolades from people as well, so that is another one to take a look at. Another aircraft I really enjoy is the CoolSky MD-80 (Standard ad Pro versions). Coolsky did a great job.POSKY aircraft are mainly just models, so don't expect a high degree of cockpit fuctionality ad whatnot. Thir models are excellent though. Hope this helps a little! Ark -------------------------- I9 9900K @ 5ghz / 32GB G.Skill (Samsung B) / Aorus Master Mobo / EVGA GTX 2080Ti FTW 3
November 22, 200916 yr Whilst not quite the same level of choice as FS9, FSX still has a good choice of airliners, and there aren't any real howlers so as long as you make an informed choice and know what to expect you won't be disappointed.Wilco/FeelThere 737/Airbus/Embraers - Some people like them, some people don't. They have some aircraft that nobody else has done for FSX (yet). Whilst not up to the level of the best developers they are still pretty good. You get a pretty decent level of functionality, albeit with poor documentation. Just beware the very dysfunctional support relationship between the publisher (Wilco) and the developer (FeelThere). Also bear in mind they don't support 64bit operating systems. I don't have the new ERJ V2 yet but I do plan to get it when they release the first service pack.Captain Sim 727/757/767 - Another developer that seems to court controversy. Again some like them, some don't. In terms of visuals, both in VC and exterior, CS are hands down the best in the business. However, in terms of systems/flight modelling they are somewhat behind the curve. It's usually best to wait a while until you purchase their products, as they do mature quite well with service packs and patches over time. Lots of users report poor frame rates with some CS products. They are also prone to failing to develop their products to their full potential by dropping them and moving onto new products.Level-D 767 - Quite long in the tooth now, but still one of the most complex and authentic airliners for FSX. It doesn't look as nice as the CS 767 but in terms of systems and flight modelling it is in a different league. Level-D are a safe bet with your money, and I would quite happily buy from them on strength of their reputation alone.PMDG 747/MD-11 - Another developer who are a safe bet with your money. Huge amounts of depth and realism in all aspects of the products, great documentation, good support. Another developer you can purchase from based purely on their reputation. The MD-11 is exceptionally well done and if you want a realistic airliner it will not disappoint. The 747, whilst an equally complex and realistic simulation, suffers from poor frame rates with many users' systems.Cool Sky MD-80/MD-80 Pro - A very well developed and rounded product. Not quite up to the same level of complexity as the Leonardo MD-80, it does feature an excellent training feature. This one's a bit of a no-brainer as if you aren't happy with it for whatever reason you can get a refund through the Flight 1 Wrapper system.Leonardo MD-80 - I only had this for FS9 and not FSX, but from what I read it is a more in-depth and complex simulation than the Cool Sky one. Other than that I can't really comment on it under FSX... Nick
November 23, 200916 yr awesome..thx for the replies!With the Wilco planes, will they work on Win 7 x64? I know they don't officially support 64, but as long as there are no major problems, I'd consider Level-D 767 or the new Embraer Regionals.
November 23, 200916 yr With the Wilco planes, will they work on Win 7 x64? I know they don't officially support 64, but as long as there are no major problems, I'd consider Level-D 767 or the new Embraer Regionals.I have no problems running the new FeelThere ERJ 135/145 on Win 7 64-bit.Tom Tom Risager NGX tutorial: http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Location=AVSIM&Proto=ftp&DLID=162360 SIDs & STARs Worked Examples: LOWI-UUDD, KSEA-KLAX, EKCH-ENGM, YSCB-YPAD
November 23, 200916 yr awesome..thx for the replies!With the Wilco planes, will they work on Win 7 x64? I know they don't officially support 64, but as long as there are no major problems, I'd consider Level-D 767 or the new Embraer Regionals.They're are so many that are really super good for FSX that trying to pick out just one that is better than the rest is (pleasantly) getting veerrry difficult.I use FSX in W7 Ultimate x64 and have no problem at all with Wilco's aircraft. At least the ones that I have loaded.I had a few problems with the PIC737 Classic series from Wilco/Feelthere, but that was quickly remedied by looking on the "unofficial" Feelthere forum and finding out that, with x64 you need to right click on each of the configurator (300, 400 and 500) utilities and select "Compatibility" and choose "Run in Windows XP SP2". That completely solved the problem and the PIC737 is now one of my favorite aircraft. This is most especially true because I have been helping beta the FS2Crew 2010 Voice Command software by Bryan York for use with the PIC737 and I'm telling you that is a really outstanding combination. After using FS2Crew 2010 Voice Command, it is very hard to get into a sim that doesn't have it. What is really fun is to put the new PIC737 together with Bryan York's FS2Crew 2010 Voice Command, FSPassengers X and Aerosoft/OnCourse Software's ProFlight Emulator. Wow! You talk about realism! It is totally and hopelessly addictive.The Wilco/Feelthere new ERJ is just outstanding. A really excellent sim. But then, the new Eaglesoft Cessna CitationXv2 for FSX is a killer sim and very complex. With it you feel like your flying a combination of a Cadillac and a Corvette. Like was said above, Captain Sim has perfected his 757 and 767s (and also the 727) and they are great simulations with extremely realistic visuals. Check his forum for a few tips on even perfecting it more.Then you have the old standard Level D. You can never go wrong with it.Everyone knows my love for the Ariane Boeing 737NG-X2 series. They are a complex 737 that looks great, sounds great and flys great. Soon Ariane will be releasing the new 737-700NG-X2 which will give a choice of 700, 800 and 900 737NGs. The new -700 will have some improvements and will also be released with a carrier livery included in response to the Avsim review that was done by Alan Bradbery. So it will come with the Green Rollout, the BCA version and one commercial carrier livery in the package. Then other liveries will be available of course. Also a new super easy and "user friendly" activation process will be launched with this package.They will also be releasing the NavData Manager within a few weeks which will be a very power tool for keeping nav data up to date. They have worked on this for about three years.No one can talk about great FSX airline sims and exclude the PMDG 747 or the beautiful MD11. Not to mention that both of these aircraft can be used with the standard versions of Bryan York's FS2Crew which fill the cockpit with realistic life, calling out checklists, flight attendant reports and ground crews. Also both of these simulations will soon be graced with the amazing instructional videos from Chris Palmer and Angle of Attack which gets the viewer flying much more like the real commercial pilot would on these aircraft. The PMDG747 has had it for about a year and the version for the MD11 will soon be released Angle of Attack You also can't overlook the really fun to fly and super realistic BAe JS4100 turboprop that has just been released by PMDG. I love that plane too.Are you looking for an older replica? Then you definately need to look into the A2A Boeing 377 with Accusim Boeing 377 simply outstanding. Any more realistic and you would have to make room in the garage.I think that should give you a few to choose from. All of them are great and there is many, many more too, like GA (RealAir Beech Duke60), military (Lotus Simulation's L-39 Albatros and Aerosoft's F-16) and helicopters(Nemeth Designs, Cera Bell 412 and Wilco's Tilt Rotor) that will challenge you to study manuals just to figure out how to start many of them. There is definately no shortage of fantastic aircraft simulations for FSX :( You gotta love it!Bob Robert Yunque PilotEdge Ratings = CAT-11 (2016-09-13) I-11 (2016-10-23) V-3 (2016-08-01)
November 23, 200916 yr The Wilco/Feelthere new ERJ ...the ERJ v2 is not a wilco product. the ERJ v2 (135LR, 145LR and 145XR) is 100% feelThere's. wilco happens to be a distributer.-- D. Scobie, feelThere support forum moderator: https://forum.simflight.com/forum/169-feelthere-support-forums/
November 23, 200916 yr the ERJ v2 is not a wilco product. the ERJ v2 (135LR, 145LR and 145XR) is 100% feelThere's. wilco happens to be a distributer.--LOL! if I had a dollar for everytime you said that. Bought the ERJ V2 last night, it looks awesome, the night lighting sucks and the autopilot, flight director and FMS NAV etc buttoms on the top of the panel, look terrible. Everything in that VC looks awesome, those buttons reallt really bother me, its almost as if you where trying to remind all of simmer about our heritage (FS2002). Anyways, please make a remove yoke button, like its in the way right, don't you see? I don't. Anyways for SP1 fix those buttons, thanks buddy.
November 24, 200916 yr the ERJ v2 is not a wilco product. the ERJ v2 (135LR, 145LR and 145XR) is 100% feelThere's. wilco happens to be a distributer.--I'm very sorry that I made that mistake Scoob. That is a really first class and very realistic simulation and I don't blame you one bit for wanting to be sure the credit goes where it is due. I'm so used to saying "Wilco/Feelthere". I believe the real fact is that FeelThere should be really getting full credit for most of the really good simulations distributed by Wilco. Thank you for the correction and the GREAT ERJ. I love it! :( Now we need to persuade Brian York to make a FS2Crew 2010 Voice Command just for the ERJ.Bob Robert Yunque PilotEdge Ratings = CAT-11 (2016-09-13) I-11 (2016-10-23) V-3 (2016-08-01)
November 24, 200916 yr LOL! if I had a dollar for everytime you said that. Bought the ERJ V2 last night, it looks awesome, the night lighting sucks and the autopilot, flight director and FMS NAV etc buttoms on the top of the panel, look terrible. Everything in that VC looks awesome, those buttons reallt really bother me, its almost as if you where trying to remind all of simmer about our heritage (FS2002). Anyways, please make a remove yoke button, like its in the way right, don't you see? I don't. Anyways for SP1 fix those buttons, thanks buddy.Why are you worried about a "remove yoke" button when you have some of the best pop-up screens available in any aircraft? Also the visual displays in that aircraft are beautiful. I could fly it all day and never get tired of looking at it. I have no idea what you are complaining about. It is among the best VCs in any aircraft. There is surly nothing "terrible" about the ERJ simulation by any standard.Bob Robert Yunque PilotEdge Ratings = CAT-11 (2016-09-13) I-11 (2016-10-23) V-3 (2016-08-01)
November 24, 200916 yr I was waiting to see FeelThere's response to the yoke button requests before I bought it and I was disappointed... apparently they want to make an entirely separate model without any yoke at all?! Makes zero sense to me. -Alex
November 24, 200916 yr I've got Vista 64 bit and I've had compatibility trouble with the feelThere B777, the CRJ and the ERJ, but I gotta hand it to feelThere for both of their Airbus series. Their Airbuses are very enjoyable sims, and are among my favourites. I like their 737 PIC too. Mike Beckwith
November 24, 200916 yr It looks like the Level D 767 is great, and the PMDG planes (I'm waiting for their 737). Any others that are particularly good? Wilco Airbus or Embraer series?Also, are the Project Opensky models full planes? or just exteriors?Thx!Personally I've been very satisfied with the PMDG and Level-D products.For the lack of any other Airbus for FSX, I tried the Wilco Airbus series (Vol I) and I was left pretty disappointed. Although marketed for FSX, the Airbus Vol I series was apparently never adapted to the changed environment that came with FSX SP2.This results in some well known glitches like opaque cockpit windows, screwed up VC night lighting etc.However, for me the major drawback with the Wilco Airbusses was the lack of depth in the systems simulation. Dave P. Woycek
November 24, 200916 yr However, for me the major drawback with the Wilco Airbusses was the lack of depth in the systems simulation.You know I've been reading statements like this allot lately about addons and most without any backup to their claim. I also see there are similar statements made just in this thread about the Coolsky MD-80 vs the Maddog. Let's take the Wilco first. Right now like it or not it is the only complex Airbus available for FSX today. It does model it's systems pretty well. True not every button is modeled. I would say though that most that influence flight are. I could also say the same for the LDS-767, as it doesn't model every aircraft system that's not critical to flight. It has flight management covering the LNAV and VNAV function you would expect in a complex model. With the exception of Overspeed protection it actually models the Fly By Wire system pretty well. What aspect of system integration do you feel is missing? It amazes me how people are so quick to promote products that haven't even been released or proven yet, as the next best thing since slice bread like what was done with AirSimmers (Which so far only released a non complex systems model for FS9) or AirLinersXP (Which now appears to be vaporware), while at the same time poo-poo on the addons we have now. As for the Coolsky MD-80 vs the Maddog, I only have the Coolsky, but I'm trying to understand the statement, that the Coolsky doesn't have the complexity of systems the Maddog has? On the Coolsky, just about every function appears to be modeled, and controls fully clickable both in the VC and 2D panels. It has a detailed FMC, with LNAV and VNAV capability. Now maybe the Maddog may in the end model them better, I don't know, but I can't imagine a FS model more detailed system wise then the Cool Sky and with excellent performance. Can someone elaborate on what system functions the Maddog models that is missing from the Coolsky? Thanks Tom My Youtube Videos! http://www.youtube.com/user/tf51d
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