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Interesting or difficult Approaches

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YOU CAN GET THE LEAD IN LIGHTS FOR JFK IN THE FILES HERE I BELEIVE.

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The Approach into Nice, France:

The RWY 19 River Approach into KIAD:
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Wow, just wanted to come in and say GREAT thread. I've been looking for some challenging approaches, and also I have grown a bit tiresome of the USA airports (so many airports to choose from!), and I have found many interesting foreign airports here. Definitely going to find some time to fly to these airports later today!!BTW to the above posts, It must be KIAD, the 19 RWYs at IAD have a regular visual approach and all have ILS, which is the preferred type of approach :(

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Some really GREAT stuff here guys, thank you so much.

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Hi GuysJust thought i'd drop by again to say thanks for these suggestions. I did purchase the MHTG Toncontin addon. Although nothing spectacular by today's standards in FSX, the package is far better that FSX default.What a hoot i've been having with it. This approach is simply amazing - surely one of the most dangerous in the world is it not? I also have Kai Tak from Fly Tampa and, although difficult, the IGS13 approach can be mastered as the descent rate is pretty constant. Toncontin on the other hand, i find MUCH more challenging. I've been flying circuits for a couple of days now with 737s, 757s & a 767, but still only manage about 1 in 3 'acceptable' landings!Judging from the video footage i've seen, i'd say that pilots must actually fly 'wide' of the published approach? Be very curious to know if that's correct?If anyone can now tell me how to add airports and navaids to the PMDG database I'd be extremely grateful. I'd love to try this with some of their aircraft.So, once again, many thanks for the pointer..... and happy new year to you all!
I believe Latin VFR has made a patch to help the shimmering issue they had with this package.http://www.latinvfr.com/

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Okay guys, now i'm in trouble..... seems I don't really have the right aircraft for some of these approaches, especially Toncontin.I have the PMDG 744 & MD11, which are simply too big. I also have their JS41 but I'm not a lover of turbos. I have the LDS767, which is also too big. I have the Captain Sim 757, which would be the right size, but I don't find the FMS reliable enough, and the VC gauges are a bit small to see. I also have Wilco's 737-300/400/500, which is fine for hand or A/P flying, but hopeless at following an FMC route.So, I've now realised I don't have a high quality, small to medium commercial jet with a good nav system, and that would be an aircraft seen at Toncontin.One of my MUSTS is a good functioning FMC, but I'm unsure if there's anything left out there that fits the bill.Any/all suggestion welcome???Thanks

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Okay guys, now i'm in trouble..... seems I don't really have the right aircraft for some of these approaches, especially Toncontin.I have the PMDG 744 & MD11, which are simply too big. I also have their JS41 but I'm not a lover of turbos. I have the LDS767, which is also too big. I have the Captain Sim 757, which would be the right size, but I don't find the FMS reliable enough, and the VC gauges are a bit small to see. I also have Wilco's 737-300/400/500, which is fine for hand or A/P flying, but hopeless at following an FMC route.So, I've now realised I don't have a high quality, small to medium commercial jet with a good nav system, and that would be an aircraft seen at Toncontin.One of my MUSTS is a good functioning FMC, but I'm unsure if there's anything left out there that fits the bill.Any/all suggestion welcome???Thanks
Would the maddog md80 be of any use? It's not the biggest of birds but it works well and the systems seem very realistic although I'm not an expert on such things :(

Tom

 

Why not read some useful tips and tricks - http://forum.avsim.n...22#entry1965722

Okay guys, now i'm in trouble..... seems I don't really have the right aircraft for some of these approaches, especially Toncontin.I have the PMDG 744 & MD11, which are simply too big. I also have their JS41 but I'm not a lover of turbos. I have the LDS767, which is also too big. I have the Captain Sim 757, which would be the right size, but I don't find the FMS reliable enough, and the VC gauges are a bit small to see. I also have Wilco's 737-300/400/500, which is fine for hand or A/P flying, but hopeless at following an FMC route.So, I've now realised I don't have a high quality, small to medium commercial jet with a good nav system, and that would be an aircraft seen at Toncontin.One of my MUSTS is a good functioning FMC, but I'm unsure if there's anything left out there that fits the bill.Any/all suggestion welcome???Thanks
Here is the thing, though:You don't need a good FMC for a lot of these approaches.A lot of them are hand-flown VOR, LOC-Only, or DME approaches.So, you need to know how to actually "fly" versus let the AP, or FMC guide you in.A lot of these approaches use what are called CDAP: Constant Descent Approach Procedures.The only thing you need in the FMC for these types of approaches is a FIX function, so you can plot the radius of so many NM from the runway in order to help calculate and maintain your descent profile and how fast your VS should be. Normally, a good all around number is 700 FPM.However, how you go about finding that number (700) is what you need to research and learn how to do.The Level-D, and 747 Training videos by Angle of Attack are a good source for learning procedures like this.I highly recommend them. The 747 more so than the 767, because the 747 is their second, more polished video.
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Would the maddog md80 be of any use? It's not the biggest of birds but it works well and the systems seem very realistic although I'm not an expert on such things :(
Ah, it's funny, I've always sort of fancied that, but just not sure it would be seen there. Any idea how I'd find out?

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This is a repetitive question. Recent thread on the subject was here:http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtop...p;#entry1517419
Yes Michal, I'm aware it's a repetitive question. So are many, many questions that get asked on most FS forums.However, things change and move on all the time, as more and more developers release more and more scenery packages, making more and more attractive approaches.Wow! Is that a record the number of 'more' in one sentence I wonder :(EDIT:PS Thanks though, that was a good thread.

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However, things change and move on all the time, as more and more developers release more and more scenery packages, making more and more attractive approaches.
Well, your first question was about approaches and not scenery packages. Actually as far as 'fun' approaches are concerned - very little changed over the last years. You should have been asking about approaches-scenery combos.

Michael J.

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You should have been asking about approaches-scenery combos.
Okay-Dokay Michal, I'll consider myself duly reprimanded :( :( In the meantime..... I've just downloaded and installed all the San Jaun (TJSJ) charts from Navigraph, and there's nothing showing up for 'Lagoon Visual Rwy8'. Can anyone tell me, has it been replaced/removed?I can see some references to it and very small b/w charts from a Google search, but no decent plates.Couldn't help myself :( went and bought the Maddog Pro.

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