Talking about water cooled, what about mineral oil. LOL Ultra quiet.Taylor Oldham

Talking about water cooled, what about mineral oil. LOL Ultra quiet.Taylor Oldham

Quiet it sure would be! The oil would cease up the pumps in a few minutes and it would be whisper quiet :(Personally, my next big new comp venture (way down the road) may include some liquid nitrogen concepts. But only because I like to tink, not to try and get any additional fps, haha.

Or stick your computer in the freezer and when you need a drink just open the fridge and get a nice cold drink and game on. LOL I wonder if you computer can get so cold that it actually starts losing performance. LOLTaylor

Or stick your computer in the freezer and when you need a drink just open the fridge and get a nice cold drink and game on. LOL I wonder if you computer can get so cold that it actually starts losing performance. LOLTaylor

I actually started looking into water cooling back in 1998, or cooling in general for that matter. The first was a system I built within my desk (bug desk), there were there comps networked as 1 under my desk lid so it was only the mobo's and had my main CD rom drive mounted in the front of my desk. I did a few designs. I almost tried to route my Air-conditioner thru my desk, but like in the fridge idea wouldn't work since the air would then create condensation and that would be a nightmare.I have a friend about to give me a small fridge though, so my beer will be a short reach away ;-)

DmitriyI also have the same CPU and motherboard and I run my computer totally stable at 3,8 GHz with a Zalman CPU cooler. The cooler is pretty big, but as far as I can tell it has received great reviews and I have no complaint:http://www.kitte.ax/zalman.jpgMy RAM memory is Corsair Dominator Intel Core i7 6GB Kit PC3-12800.I just made a few changes in the BIOS under AI Tweaker (you have to set AI Overclock Tuner to manual first):BLCK Frequency 190DRAM Frequency DDR3.1523CPU voltage 1.35QPI/DRAM Voltage 1.35DRAM Bus voltage 1.35That's it! I first ran the computer with my old Nvidia 8800GT video card and 500 W PSU but when I put in the Asus EAH5870 I would get into trouble so I bought a 850 W PSU instead and have no problem since that.

Hey friend, don't do that. i7 is far bether than i5. ok ok. it's 2.66mhz but it have 8 threads vs 4 in i5.check this out:http://www.intel.com/consumer/products/pro...ors/ratings.htmPaulo.

I do get confused when looking at cpu's for FSX. I've read somewhere that FSX doesn't really take advantage of hyper-threading so the number of threads a cpu has doesn't really matter? And then someone in this topic thread has said his FSX runs better using only 2 cores, he turns off the other two in his quad core to get better performance.From these observations is might be wise to get a 2 core i-670 with a turbo boost of 3.73 Ghz as standard with no over-clocking at all?Regards,Pete Smith, UK

This is good to hear. Might I ask, do you use any weather engine, traffic & PMDG airplanes ??As I never fly on-line, I'm thinking of getting the new Ultimate Traffic 2. It is done from the ground up, specially for FSX and the Avsim review states; none or very little FPS impact.Golli

I have UT2 running max traffic, yes I like it much better than what they had out before. For wx I've used ASX but have switched to REX, have a variety of airports by FSDreamTeam, Blueprint, etc. I have everything in the PMDG fleet except the B1900. I do all my flying in FSX, but use FS9 for the NG. Mostly for editing and testing my sidstar collection. As soon as the engineering business picks back up I'll add GEX and some more airports, but know one knows when that is going to happen. I'm basically living on a military retirement now.

DmitriyI also have the same CPU and motherboard and I run my computer totally stable at 3,8 GHz with a Zalman CPU cooler. The cooler is pretty big, but as far as I can tell it has received great reviews and I have no complaint:http://www.kitte.ax/zalman.jpgMy RAM memory is Corsair Dominator Intel Core i7 6GB Kit PC3-12800.I just made a few changes in the BIOS under AI Tweaker (you have to set AI Overclock Tuner to manual first):BLCK Frequency 190DRAM Frequency DDR3.1523CPU voltage 1.35QPI/DRAM Voltage 1.35DRAM Bus voltage 1.35That's it! I first ran the computer with my old Nvidia 8800GT video card and 500 W PSU but when I put in the Asus EAH5870 I would get into trouble so I bought a 850 W PSU instead and have no problem since that.

Krister, With these settings or any OC for that matter with Turbo. I want to add that you MUST disable turbo, or you will fry your cpu. If not in one big flash, you will get degradational failure.

I do get confused when looking at cpu's for FSX. I've read somewhere that FSX doesn't really take advantage of hyper-threading so the number of threads a cpu has doesn't really matter? And then someone in this topic thread has said his FSX runs better using only 2 cores, he turns off the other two in his quad core to get better performance.From these observations is might be wise to get a 2 core i-670 with a turbo boost of 3.73 Ghz as standard with no over-clocking at all?Regards,Pete Smith, UK

Both true statements, but very different meanings for us simmers in FSX! FSX does benefit by as many true cores as you can throw at it. It does not benefit much (if at all) from hyperthreading (too many 'collisions' I hear - data & instruction collisions, not airplanes!).So, as an example, on my i7 920, Performance will show 8 cores, only 4 are 'true', physical cores and FSX will use all 4 'true' (physical cores) to the best of its ability. The key here is to recall that "hyperthreading" is really a 'virtual core', not a physical one.Hope this helps clear up confusion!...without creating more. :( Bottom line: more cores, i.e. Quad, or the upcoming Six core and in the future more cores (I believe FSX sp2 can explicitly schedule 32 cores with no user intervention or tweaking).Cheers!

Krister, With these settings or any OC for that matter with Turbo. I want to add that you MUST disable turbo, or you will fry your cpu. If not in one big flash, you will get degradational failure.

Krister, Dan's correct - watch your cpu core heat! (download RealTemp or something similar to monitor) You could easily fry it (watch those voltages!!), or just as bad, your cpu will throttle itself back to 1.2 Ghz or something silly like that in order to cool down! 1.2Ghz, no matter the cores, will give you lowsy simming!Cheers!

Hi Dmitriy, OC'ing isn't the only way to get good performance. You will get better performance, but in some cases can also open up a can of worms also. With things like artifacting dur to overheating, lock ups, blue screens etc...Of course you can also get a stable overclock and love it. I wouldn't recommend OC'ing, but will say your mobo has many protections from keeping it from accepting anything out of the norm. If you want I can list my exact settings for my overclock and you can try them out. Our systems are very comparable with one possible exception of your ram. What type is it?

Dan,Here are the specs for my RAM: Corsair 3x2PC3-10700H (667Mhz)BIOS version - 0112, Date 11/28/2008

Dan,Here are the specs for my RAM: Corsair 3x2PC3-10700H (667Mhz)BIOS version - 0112, Date 11/28/2008

My apologies for missing this post yesterday Dmitriy, I actually did see it, but forgot to reply with getting caught up with all the other activity here lately. I have not been able to track down my written settings (I know I have them somewhere) since my surroundings are quite a disaster at the moment preparing for a move. I will need to check my bios settings and will get the information to you soon as I can but first, before I give you advice on this, it looks like we have a big problem with your ram.The memory seems rather odd that you list here. 667Mhz? The clock settings I have would need memory capable and rated for 1600Mhz. The reason I first asked about your ram was because I wouldn't want to cause you more problems than it's worth, and that memory looks like a stop sign to me. Do you have a link to it so I can read the specs before I do anything?I rather be safe than sorry, for both are sake.

Dan,Thanks for your response,The information about memory is taken from CPUID. I have 3 sticks 2GB each. Here is the data from CPUID (cannot take a screenshot) for each stickMemory SPD-------------------------------------------------------------------------DIMM # 1 SMBus address 0x50 Memory type DDR3 Module format UDIMM Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000) Size 2048 MBytes Max bandwidth PC3-10700H (667 MHz) Part number CM3X2G1600C9 Number of banks 8 Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts EPP no XMP yes XMP revision 1.2JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-16-23 @ 444 MHz JEDEC #2 8.0-8-8-22-30 @ 592 MHz JEDEC #3 9.0-9-9-24-34 @ 666 MHzXMP profile XMP-1600 Specification PC3-12800 Voltage level 1.650 Volts Min Cycle time 1.250 ns (800 MHz) Min tRP 11.25 ns Min tRCD 11.25 ns Min tWR 15.00 ns Min tRAS 30.00 ns Min tRC 50.63 ns Min tRFC 110.00 ns Min tRTP 7.50 ns Min tRRD 7.50 ns Command Rate 2TXMP timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage) XMP #1 6.0-6-6-16-27-2T @ 533 MHz (1.650 Volts) XMP #2 9.0-9-9-24-41-2T @ 800 MHz (1.650 Volts)DIMM # 2 SMBus address 0x52 Memory type DDR3 Module format UDIMM Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000) Size 2048 MBytes Max bandwidth PC3-10700H (667 MHz) Part number CM3X2G1600C9 Number of banks 8 Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts EPP no XMP yes XMP revision 1.2JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-16-23 @ 444 MHz JEDEC #2 8.0-8-8-22-30 @ 592 MHz JEDEC #3 9.0-9-9-24-34 @ 666 MHzXMP profile XMP-1600 Specification PC3-12800 Voltage level 1.650 Volts Min Cycle time 1.250 ns (800 MHz) Min tRP 11.25 ns Min tRCD 11.25 ns Min tWR 15.00 ns Min tRAS 30.00 ns Min tRC 50.63 ns Min tRFC 110.00 ns Min tRTP 7.50 ns Min tRRD 7.50 ns Command Rate 2TXMP timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage) XMP #1 6.0-6-6-16-27-2T @ 533 MHz (1.650 Volts) XMP #2 9.0-9-9-24-41-2T @ 800 MHz (1.650 Volts)DIMM # 3 SMBus address 0x54 Memory type DDR3 Module format UDIMM Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000) Size 2048 MBytes Max bandwidth PC3-10700H (667 MHz) Part number CM3X2G1600C9 Number of banks 8 Nominal Voltage 1.50 Volts EPP no XMP yes XMP revision 1.2JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency JEDEC #1 6.0-6-6-16-23 @ 444 MHz JEDEC #2 8.0-8-8-22-30 @ 592 MHz JEDEC #3 9.0-9-9-24-34 @ 666 MHzXMP profile XMP-1600 Specification PC3-12800 Voltage level 1.650 Volts Min Cycle time 1.250 ns (800 MHz) Min tRP 11.25 ns Min tRCD 11.25 ns Min tWR 15.00 ns Min tRAS 30.00 ns Min tRC 50.63 ns Min tRFC 110.00 ns Min tRTP 7.50 ns Min tRRD 7.50 ns Command Rate 2TXMP timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC-CR @ frequency (voltage) XMP #1 6.0-6-6-16-27-2T @ 533 MHz (1.650 Volts) XMP #2 9.0-9-9-24-41-2T @ 800 MHz (1.650 Volts)

wait for the i7 980X and see what it can do, it gonna have 6 cores and running of a speed of 3.33 ghz im sure it can be clocke to 4,5 ghzyes its gonna be expensive i know but i have the money to buy it when it arives.

wait for the i7 980X and see what it can do, it gonna have 6 cores and running of a speed of 3.33 ghz im sure it can be clocke to 4,5 ghzyes its gonna be expensive i know but i have the money to buy it when it arives.

Well if it's as scalable as the 920, then could see it hit 5ghz easy. I just don't want to part with this motherboard, and that one is of course a new socket type :(