April 23, 201016 yr I find it rather hard to understand why people are complaining. The product isn't even out yet. Aerosoft says it won't be hardcore so you're warned beforehand. For 30 euros, it seems a bargain considering the screenshots and features and I think that quite a few of us will enjoy flying it. KInd regards Jean-Paul I7 8700K / Fractal Design Celsius S24 watercooling / ASRock Z370 Extreme4 motherboard / Corsair 32GB 3200mhz DDR4 / INNO3D iChiLL GeForce GTX 1080 Ti X3 / Samsung SSD 960 EVO M.2 PCIe NVMe 500GB / Seasonic-SSR-850FX power supply / Fractal Design Define R5 Black case / AOC Q3279VWF 32″ 2560x1440 monitor / Benq GL2450 24″ 1920x1080 monitor / Track-IR 4
April 24, 201016 yr Hi LongyearLike you, I am going to make an assumption here - with the difference being that my assumption is visibly correct, whilst literally not a single one of yours is. My assumption is that you did not even take a moment to read any of the information about the Aerosoft Airbus X available on their forums before deciding to post what you make out as facts, am I right?So then to set you straight: All phases of flight with the correct thrust mode settings are simulated so there is no need to stick to vspeed modes as pitch modes are also simulated. Furthermore there is a seriously good FBW implementation with full auto trimming.Just to add that Aerosoft are concurrently developing this Airbus for a commercial client, that should tell you something about the fidelity of the simulation.Pretty pictures do not the whole story tell...Hi Konrad,Whilst you attitude leaves a lot to be desired, it's clear that the aspirations and functionality of this project have been far improved upon, since the original statements that this aricraft would "hold more or less the same operational functionality as the default A321".As such I am happy to be a man and admit that my post and assumptions were inaccurate and agree that the project now includes a lot of exciting features for basic operation.I based my assumptions on good faith on the last time I looked at this project; but ultimately they were wrong.Thank you for putting me right, and feel free to be as much of a man and offer an apology for your acidic tone and condescending attitude.Regards,
April 24, 201016 yr I find it rather hard to understand why people are complaining. The product isn't even out yet. Aerosoft says it won't be hardcore so you're warned beforehand. For 30 euros, it seems a bargain considering the screenshots and features and I think that quite a few of us will enjoy flying it.Use of common sense on the play.Penalty 15 yards. Ark -------------------------- I9 9900K @ 5ghz / 32GB G.Skill (Samsung B) / Aorus Master Mobo / EVGA GTX 2080Ti FTW 3
April 24, 201016 yr Commercial Member Thank you for putting me right, and feel free to be as much of a man and offer an apology for your acidic tone and condescending attitude.Hi LongyearIndeed, my apologies for the excessive attitude, but you did deserve it just a little bit, hey? :( There are just so many negative and misinformed posts here lately about products people put a lot of effort into (FSD, VRS, Aerosoft etc to name but a few) and I guess I'm just a bit fed up with it all. But I'll get over it! Getting over the impact on sales for the developers may be a bit harder though. Konrad
April 24, 201016 yr Is the Wilco Airbus a decent representation of the Airbus systems?I have the Wilco and think it's systems are modeled fairly well. It models all realms of the FBW flight protections well except for overspeed. Not sure why they left that out. VNAV and LNAV is also modeled. as well as Autoland. Not all functions are clickable but the primary ones you need are (Like many other aircraft addons) I'm not a big fan of the external model, so I replace it with the Project Airbus external models, which are much better. I have a few videos of it on youtube. You can access them below. Thanks Tom My Youtube Videos! http://www.youtube.com/user/tf51d
April 25, 201016 yr Thanks Tom... what about the virtual cockpit at night. Is there separate backlighting and dome lighting that you can control?
April 25, 201016 yr Thanks Tom... what about the virtual cockpit at night. Is there separate backlighting and dome lighting that you can control?Here's a link to the Aerosoft Preview forum for their Airbus..http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?sh...=34108&st=0Bob
April 25, 201016 yr Hi LongyearIndeed, my apologies for the excessive attitude, but you did deserve it just a little bit, hey? :( There are just so many negative and misinformed posts here lately about products people put a lot of effort into (FSD, VRS, Aerosoft etc to name but a few) and I guess I'm just a bit fed up with it all. But I'll get over it! Getting over the impact on sales for the developers may be a bit harder though.Cheers Konrad, no hard feelings. I agree with your comments about the negativity. I didn't intend to add to it, and it is annoying when people spout inaccurate rubbish (as I inadvertantly did on this occasion!!!). :( I'm pleased we 'dunched' because I am now interested in this A320, knowing that it will have a reasonably realistic A/T system and some form of 'speed by pitch' mode (open or managed climb), for the ascents.
April 27, 201016 yr Author I just looked at the most recent shots, and I must say I am very much impressed, again. It looks like the project is coming along nicely with some great liveries and the resolution of the textures is really top-notch. I love the detail the put into things such as the flap mechanics, and landing gear... it really gives a sense of realism. See You In The Skies...gman!"Impossible things are simply those which so far have never been done." - Elbert Hubbard
April 27, 201016 yr As pretty as it looks, I suspect that many will be rather more interested in the complex version that is promised at a later date. But since that is apparently to be a payware upgrade which can enhance the simpler version that is coming first (unlike the Airsimmer A320), many might be tempted anyway, and simply park it up until the upgrade shows up, which does at least spread the cost if nothing else.So I can't help thinking that as it stands, without such an upgrade it simply does not address what people really want, which is a realistic A320 in terms of systems. Like a good many simmers, I'll take systems realism over eye candy any day of the week. What makes an Airbus different is the systems it uses, and without those, it might just as well be the default FSX Airbus with a shiny cockpit.Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
April 27, 201016 yr As pretty as it looks, I suspect that many will be rather more interested in the complex version that is promised at a later date. But since that is apparently to be a payware upgrade which can enhance the simpler version that is coming first (unlike the Airsimmer A320), many might be tempted anyway, and simply park it up until the upgrade shows up, which does at least spread the cost if nothing else.So I can't help thinking that as it stands, without such an upgrade it simply does not address what people really want, which is a realistic A320 in terms of systems. Like a good many simmers, I'll take systems realism over eye candy any day of the week. What makes an Airbus different is the systems it uses, and without those, it might just as well be the default FSX Airbus with a shiny cockpit.AlTrue for you, for me, and for many others on this forum, but from what I understand Aerosoft also aims to address those people that do enjoy FSX, but are no diehards (they don't even know that AVSIM exists for example). Aerosoft argues that these people are looking for (boxed and in-store I presume) add-ons that do not have the complexity of for example PMDG because it is too complicated and time-consuming, but do go is beyond the default FSX stuff; thus it is positioned somehwere between the two extremes. Correct me if I'm wrong though, but this is from what I understand. Best regards, Alexander Rietveld
April 27, 201016 yr True for you, for me, and for many others on this forum, but from what I understand Aerosoft also aims to address those people that do enjoy FSX, but are no diehards (they don't even know that AVSIM exists for example). Aerosoft argues that these people are looking for (boxed and in-store I presume) add-ons that do not have the complexity of for example PMDG because it is too complicated and time-consuming, but do go is beyond the default FSX stuff; thus it is positioned somehwere between the two extremes. Correct me if I'm wrong though, but this is from what I understand.No correction needed, because this is indeed Aerosoft's target group: people who don't even know yet the Airbus X is coming. :( And most certainly not those who complain about the lack of wingflex on the Aerosoft forum... :( I sometimes wonder how much owners of FSX visit forums about it and buy PMDG-like stuff. 5%...? Maybe 10%...? I do believe we over here are a minority. :(
April 27, 201016 yr I am sure every PMDG offering is the top seller of all addons, so I seriously doubt it. Yes casual simmers are a bigger audience but those people are long gone, moved on to another game already. Casual simming means you don't spend years and years with one game like people do with FS9, and now FSX
April 27, 201016 yr Crisis or not, Aerosoft appears to be doing pretty well. I think they have a very good understanding of their market. Tom Risager NGX tutorial: http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Location=AVSIM&Proto=ftp&DLID=162360 SIDs & STARs Worked Examples: LOWI-UUDD, KSEA-KLAX, EKCH-ENGM, YSCB-YPAD
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