March 21, 201016 yr I'm not sure where your info comes from David, but having seen both the forum posts and the beta, I too was wondering about just how much the A32X wing actually moved.On a flight last week, I paid a lot of attention to the watching the wings and whilst it's true that the wingtip could be said to "judder" whilst taxiing over bumps, I'd have to say there's very little to suggest wingflex.In something like a 747 or even more so, A380, there are very obvious differences in the wingtip position based on fuel load and lift. I'm sure most people have looked out of the window of a 747 during take off roll and watched the height of the wingtip gradually get higher and higher before lift off, and that kind of aircraft very obviously has "wing flex". However, the A32X is nothing like this and to display 747 style wing flex on an A32X in FS is just plain silly and totally unrepresentative of the real thing. Same thing will be true of the DF727X, which will also not "feature" wingflex because regardless of what people think, the real thing doesn't have "bouncy" wings.As for someone elses comment of frame rates; you need to bear in mind that like Flight 1, Aerosoft both publish in house products as well as those of other developers, so it's a bit harse to make a sweeping comments From what I've seen to date, the AS A32X is only marginally shy of the default A321 in terms of frame rate affect.Hi Paul,Nice to see you here :--).If once you are in touch with Lou, please send him my best wishes.----Where do I have the information about the "wingflex"?From my own experience of this aircraft.We are here speaking about two different things.What you see during TO in a 747 is due to the specific wing shape and you're right, you won't notice the same lift phenomenom in a 727, nor in an A32X aircraft because they don't need this added help to take off.During turbulences however, the Airbus wings will bounce much more than the 747 ones because of the drag caused by the four composite material flap tracks. - PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D // Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO // 2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 // ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600 // Corsair 1600W PSU Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor. - Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7.
March 21, 201016 yr Author Why not? Just curious :( That product does look stunning.I'm trying to stop myself from playing until summer so I can study for the SAT. So far I've gone a month without FSX :(There is not a single low res or flat texture inside the VC - no matter how hard you try to find one (and I have tried real hard!)The external lighting is reminiscent of what was done with the L-39 Albatros, which is a first for a tubeliner in FSX.[/url]Here are some more detailed pics from the beta:http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?sh...st&p=212029http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?sh...st&p=212505 That is freaking INCREDIBLE!! I was looking very hard too, to find any 2D things that aren't modeled in the screenshots I posted and I couldn't find any. Even the gear doors have 3D modeling! This is amazing! I really hope they make an advanced version and if the basic version has a good functioning FMC, I may purchase it.BTW, Almost all aircraft's wings flex to some degree. If most airliner's wings were completely rigid then expect an even bumpier ride when flying through turbulence and maybe even a failure (The wings would probably break if they were rigid and did not flex). See You In The Skies...gman!"Impossible things are simply those which so far have never been done." - Elbert Hubbard
March 21, 201016 yr Cool! Now, who is actually modeling this thing? Is it Aerosoft, or another developer? It's so hard to tell because AS publishes a lot of products but they don't necessarily make themAlso, I hope the systems aren't as dumbed-down as they appear to be via the forum posts. Anyone know if it has an FMC with vnav etc? | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
March 21, 201016 yr Hi, Ryan!It's an internal Aerosoft project (simulatneously made in a special professional version ordered by an airline).Do not expect MCDU with full VNAV. Vertical navigation will be simplified.But an advanced version is planned later on, so it might change. We'll all see how it goes. :(
March 21, 201016 yr Commercial Member David, AlanThanks for your comments regarding the wingflex issue - I have passed them on to the developer. Konrad
March 21, 201016 yr Also, I hope the systems aren't as dumbed-down as they appear to be via the forum posts. Anyone know if it has an FMC with vnav etc?There is a fair amount of information on the systems below all the pictures: http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showtopic=33282From the outset the design goal has been described as "between the default Airbus and the far more complex (and more expensive) models from other development teams". So don't expect PMDG-level systems simulation. However, they are talking about making a more advanced version, as an addon to the initial release. Will be interesting to see how far they can take it. Tom Risager NGX tutorial: http://library.avsim.net/sendfile.php?Location=AVSIM&Proto=ftp&DLID=162360 SIDs & STARs Worked Examples: LOWI-UUDD, KSEA-KLAX, EKCH-ENGM, YSCB-YPAD
March 21, 201016 yr David, AlanThanks for your comments regarding the wingflex issue - I have passed them on to the developer.My pleasure Konrad - PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D // Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO // 2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 // ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600 // Corsair 1600W PSU Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor. - Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7.
March 21, 201016 yr But an advanced version is planned later on, so it might change. We'll all see how it goes. :(This sounds familiar :(Anyway it does look nice in the shots, I wouldn't say "better" than the PMDGJ41 VC but just as good imho | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
March 22, 201016 yr Commercial Member My pleasure KonradI imagine that few folks are as keen on a decent airbus sim as you are but with regards to the wingflex issue I suspect we may be outta luck. Lots of other tidbits to make up for it though...This sounds familiar :( Anyway it does look nice in the shots, I wouldn't say "better" than the PMDGJ41 VC but just as good imhoComparing AirSimmer and Aerosoft is a bit errr... naive imho.It is that subtle feeling of "being there" which to me at least seems that much more pervasive inside the Aerosoft Airbus X VC when compared to the J41. You will be able to judge for yourself soon enough. Konrad
March 23, 201016 yr I'm trying to stop myself from playing until summer so I can study for the SAT. So far I've gone a month without FSX :(Good luck! Gavin Barbara Over 10 years here and AVSIM is still my favourite FS site :-)
March 23, 201016 yr Where do I have the information about the "wingflex"?From my own experience of this aircraft.We are here speaking about two different things.What you see during TO in a 747 is due to the specific wing shape and you're right, you won't notice the same lift phenomenom in a 727, nor in an A32X aircraft because they don't need this added help to take off.During turbulences however, the Airbus wings will bounce much more than the 747 ones because of the drag caused by the four composite material flap tracks.David so true I have the info from first hand too lol :-)Cheers, André
March 25, 201016 yr Commercial Member Well, I can now pretty much confirm that there will not be any wing flex implemented on the Aerosoft Airbus X. The concensus is that it is simply not worth the 3 to 5 fps which would have to be sacrificed.Another feature recently added, and again a first I believe, is windmilling fan blades when the engines are shut down. Speed and rotation will be dependant on wind direction and speed. Konrad
March 26, 201016 yr Author Well, I can now pretty much confirm that there will not be any wing flex implemented on the Aerosoft Airbus X. The concensus is that it is simply not worth the 3 to 5 fps which would have to be sacrificed.Another feature recently added, and again a first I believe, is windmilling fan blades when the engines are shut down. Speed and rotation will be dependant on wind direction and speed.I think many people will be fine with that depending on how the way it looks. I'm gonna try and save my money so I can buy this plane next week and fly during spring break (breaking my promise to not fly until June :(). All this work and studying is making me tired anyway... See You In The Skies...gman!"Impossible things are simply those which so far have never been done." - Elbert Hubbard
March 26, 201016 yr Commercial Member I'm gonna try and save my money so I can buy this plane next weekThe expected release date is earliest mid April though end of April is by no means ruled out. All depends on the the beta progresses. Konrad
March 26, 201016 yr Reading through the 1st linked thread, I see there is no 2D panel for the airplane. :( The VC is truly a work of art, but for my dollar an airliner needs a 2D panel. It's just very well suited to having one. I only have a 21" monitor, and that isn't quite large enough to really handle a VC properly. If not a full 2D panel, than popup representations of the various switch panels and overheads to make it easier to manipulate the systems, rather than having to move your entire viewpoint to the panel location you need.I enjoy a good VC on a VFR airplane, down low and slow where the only things you are really manipulating are the control surfaces and such... a VC is great there. But for more systems oriented planes, a good solid 2D panel will get my $$. Maybe I'll reinstall the PMDG 747 and try it both ways to see if I can be converted to the dark side. Impressive none the less though! It really is a well detailed VC!
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