Hi all!After years of craving, I will finally be able to buy my new PC so I can upgrade from FS2004 to FSX. This purchase will happen tomorrow. I had my choice for months but lately I have seen a cheaper computer, and it is always good to save - so if this cheaper computer can also handle FSX properly and smoothly, I would go for it, saving around EUR 300 over the other one. Please, guys, review the below system and get back to me, what's your opinion, is it OK to run FSX? This is a specific product, and is one of the two configurations I am gonna choose between. The other one is however more expensive, but if you FSX guys say that the below one will be OK, then I order this one tomorrow and not the other, more expensive system.AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz @ 4.00GHz DDR3 SystemSystem Specification:- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit OEM- Case: Antec 300 Gaming Case - Black- Power Supply: OCZ 600W SteathXStream II- CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz overclocked to 4.00GHz- Motherboard: Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AMD 880G (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard- Cooler: Akasa Nero V2 heatsink- RAM: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz- Hard Drive: WD Caviar Black 640GB 3Gb/s 32MB cache- Graphics Card: GeForce GTX470 1280MB GDDR5- Sound: 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board)- Optical Drive: LG DVD+/-RW SATA DriveSorry for the typo, the title supposed to be URGENT HELP REALLY NEEDED:-)

Hi all!After years of craving, I will finally be able to buy my new PC so I can upgrade from FS2004 to FSX. This purchase will happen tomorrow. I had my choice for months but lately I have seen a cheaper computer, and it is always good to save - so if this cheaper computer can also handle FSX properly and smoothly, I would go for it, saving around EUR 300 over the other one. Please, guys, review the below system and get back to me, what's your opinion, is it OK to run FSX? This is a specific product, and is one of the two configurations I am gonna choose between. The other one is however more expensive, but if you FSX guys say that the below one will be OK, then I order this one tomorrow and not the other, more expensive system.AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz @ 4.00GHz DDR3 SystemSystem Specification:- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit OEM- Case: Antec 300 Gaming Case - Black- Power Supply: OCZ 600W SteathXStream II- CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz overclocked to 4.00GHz- Motherboard: Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AMD 880G (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard- Cooler: Akasa Nero V2 heatsink- RAM: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz- Hard Drive: WD Caviar Black 640GB 3Gb/s 32MB cache- Graphics Card: GeForce GTX470 1280MB GDDR5- Sound: 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board)- Optical Drive: LG DVD+/-RW SATA DriveSorry for the typo, the title supposed to be URGENT HELP REALLY NEEDED:-)

That's a big ask, the answer to "Will it be OK" is trite but truthful, "Where do you want to put the FSX sliders?" Unless someone has similar spec'd machine it is difficult to comment. I would personally never build a machine for myself nor build one for a friend with only on hard drive spindle but there is no law against it. If I had to live with a single hard drive spindle I would certainly have it divided into at least two separate partitions before I took delivery so you would end up with at least a "C" and a "D" drive that will give you some flexibility at least.

That's a big ask, the answer to "Will it be OK" is trite but truthful, "Where do you want to put the FSX sliders?" Unless someone has similar spec'd machine it is difficult to comment. I would personally never build a machine for myself nor build one for a friend with only on hard drive spindle but there is no law against it. If I had to live with a single hard drive spindle I would certainly have it divided into at least two separate partitions before I took delivery so you would end up with at least a "C" and a "D" drive that will give you some flexibility at least.

Ok, the other one I am thinking about is this:Intel Core i7 930 2.80GHz @ 3.60GHz Quad Core DDR3 SystemSystem Specification:- Case: Antec 902 Ultimate Gaming Case - Black- Power Supply: OCZ StealthXStream II 700W - CPU: Intel Core i7 930 2.80GHz Overclocked to 3.60GHz- Motherboard: Gigabyte EX58A-UD3R Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard- Cooler: Akasa Venom CPU Cooler cooler- RAM: Patriot Viper 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 (1600MHz) Tri-Channel- Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache- Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 470 1280MB GDDR5- Sound: High Definition 7.1 Onboard Sound Card- Optical Drive: LG GH22NS30 22x DVD

- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit OEM - OK- Case: Antec 300 Gaming Case - Black - OK- Power Supply: OCZ 600W SteathXStream II - OK, but only just. - CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz overclocked to 4.00GHz - Big question mark! Most folks would go for a Core i7 920- Motherboard: Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AMD 880G (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard - Depends on CPU, a core i7 would need an X58- Cooler: Akasa Nero V2 heatsink - Not sure, Thermalright Venomous X or Corsair H50 water are sound alternatives- RAM: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz - RAM is cheap, get as much as you can to minimize loading times, 6GB min.- Hard Drive: WD Caviar Black 640GB 3Gb/s 32MB cache - OK, loading times won't be as good as a velociraptor or an SSD but that won't affect framerates- Graphics Card: GeForce GTX470 1280MB GDDR5 - OK, a GTX480 would be better but both cards are HOT! so case & CPU cooling must be good- Sound: 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board) - OK- Optical Drive: LG DVD+/-RW SATA Drive - OKI'd go for a Corei7 920 system, preferably overclocked, as FSX needs the best possible CPU.Cheers,Noel.

- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit OEM - OK- Case: Antec 300 Gaming Case - Black - OK- Power Supply: OCZ 600W SteathXStream II - OK, but only just. - CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz overclocked to 4.00GHz - Big question mark! Most folks would go for a Core i7 920- Motherboard: Asus M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AMD 880G (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard - Depends on CPU, a core i7 would need an X58- Cooler: Akasa Nero V2 heatsink - Not sure, Thermalright Venomous X or Corsair H50 water are sound alternatives- RAM: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz - RAM is cheap, get as much as you can to minimize loading times, 6GB min.- Hard Drive: WD Caviar Black 640GB 3Gb/s 32MB cache - OK, loading times won't be as good as a velociraptor or an SSD but that won't affect framerates- Graphics Card: GeForce GTX470 1280MB GDDR5 - OK, a GTX480 would be better but both cards are HOT! so case & CPU cooling must be good- Sound: 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board) - OK- Optical Drive: LG DVD+/-RW SATA Drive - OKI'd go for a Corei7 920 system, preferably overclocked, as FSX needs the best possible CPU.Cheers,Noel.

Thx Noel.

So are you guys saying that a 920 is better than a 930.....or are you saying a 920 is better than the AMD? Thanks....I about have a new system configured and am going back and forth between the 920 and the 930.

So are you guys saying that a 920 is better than a 930.....or are you saying a 920 is better than the AMD? Thanks....I about have a new system configured and am going back and forth between the 920 and the 930.

I wanted to buy the AMD but now I think I will get the i7 930.

I just built a system with the I7 930. It went to 4.0 GHZ and never batted an eye. I' very happy with the results.

I just built a system with the I7 930. It went to 4.0 GHZ and never batted an eye. I' very happy with the results.

Great...thanks!!!!

The Core i7 930 is better than the 920, but the latter is cheaper and can be overclocked to pretty much the same level. Some people can achieve 4.2 GHz with a 920 but this usually requires increasing the RAM voltage and that I won't do. I'm happy with 3.4 GHz on stock voltages.Cheers,Noel.

Cooler: Akasa Nero V2 heatsink - Not sure, Thermalright Venomous X or Corsair H50 water are sound alternatives

If it will fit in your case, go for a Noctua NH-D14. It's huge, but the best air cooler around. Coupled with Innovation Coolings Diamond paste, it's superb. I know, I have it. Only water is better.The i7930 is the newer version of the 920. Intel suggested that on average, it should overclock slightly better than the 920. many are finding this is born out in practice.

Some people can achieve 4.2 GHz with a 920 but this usually requires increasing the RAM voltage and that I won't do.

My 920 will overclock to 4.2 with ease. Increase in RAM voltage no. CPU voltage yes, to 1.275. And QPI/DRAM Core Volts to 1.3.However, I found it unecessary, so I backed off to 4GHz. CPU at 1.24 volts. QPI/DRAM Core Volts at 1.25. I've not heard of anyone having to increase ram voltage, not above the specified 1.64 volts anyway. But theoretically, as long as QPI/DRAM Core Volts is within 0.5 volts of DRAM voltage it's said to be safe.Personally, I wouldn't though. I see no need, and wouldn't risk it anyway, just in case.

Now I am comparing the below two systems and hopefully make my final decision and finally order my PC for FSX. PLEASE HELP, I am not really good at hardware. Especially not sure about the graphics cards, don't know them at all... My one and only aim is to get as much FPS with FSX as possible, with sliders set as close to max as possible.System #1- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit OEM- Case: Antec 902 Ultimate Gaming Case - Black- Power Supply: OCZ StealthXStream II 700W - CPU: Intel Core i7 930 2.80GHz Overclocked to 3.60GHz- Motherboard: Gigabyte EX58A-UD3R Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard- Cooler: Akasa Venom CPU Cooler cooler- RAM: Patriot Viper 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 (1600MHz) Tri-Channel- Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache- Graphics Card: Point of View GeForce GTX 470 1280MB GDDR5- Sound: High Definition 7.1 Onboard Sound Card- Optical Drive: LG GH22NS30 22x DVD

<br />Now I am comparing the below two systems and hopefully make my final decision and finally order my PC for FSX. PLEASE HELP, I am not really good at hardware. Especially not sure about the graphics cards, don't know them at all... My one and only aim is to get <i>as much FPS with FSX as possible</i>, with <i>sliders set as close to max as possible</i>.<br /><br /><b>System #1</b><br />- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit OEM<br />- Case: Antec 902 Ultimate Gaming Case - Black<br />- Power Supply: OCZ StealthXStream II 700W <br />- <b>CPU: Intel Core i7 930 2.80GHz Overclocked to 3.60GHz</b><br />- Motherboard: Gigabyte EX58A-UD3R Intel X58 (Socket 1366) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard<br />- Cooler: Akasa Venom CPU Cooler cooler<br />- <b>RAM: Patriot Viper 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 (1600MHz) Tri-Channel</b><br />- Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache<br />- <b>Graphics Card: Point of View GeForce GTX 470 1280MB GDDR5</b><br />- Sound: High Definition 7.1 Onboard Sound Card<br />- Optical Drive: LG GH22NS30 22x DVD

For FSX since you will probably not be able to find a GTX285 any more then the GTX470 is the best that you can get, and this only applies to FSX. If you can afford it go with a GTX480. FSX is very CPU/GPU demanding and the better your CPU and the higher the OC plus the best performing GPU you can get equates to FSX smoothness and high FPS.If you are going to be playing other CPU/GPU demanding games then an ATI5870 is also a good choice, it just gets down to your preference.Check the CAS rating on the ram, CAS6 is great, CAS7 is pretty good, CAS8 is okay, CAS9 is SLOW. For performance go with CAS6 or CAS7.Since FSX is so CPU demanding go with the 4.0GHz OC.

Thanks guys for all suggestions! I am gonna use a 19" monitor. I also e-mailed to the company who builds the systems and I was told, that these games cannot take advantage of the multi cires, so there is no real need for an i7, but I will need a superb graphics card. I copy the letter I received:"Just to give you something to think about ... Flight Sim X as with most simulators and games do not use quad core technology so you are potentially buying a far too powerful CPU for your needs. As with most gamers you have fallen into the trap of thinking the CPU does most of the hard work for what you are using it for, you are however mistaken. The graphics card does a vast majority of the work so if you are compromising on the cost of the graphics card just to get the i7 you will be doing yourself an injustice. If however you are still going with a top class graphics card you will find that your system will be more than adequate.The basic rule to go by is - Buy the best graphics card and dual core CPU you can for your money, do not compromise on the quality of your graphics card to switch over to a quad core processor unless you are heavily multi tasking or doing multi project rendering/editing.My suggestion would be to go for a Titan Xenomorph with a 5870 graphics card"Basically, the guy suggested a CHEAPER config. If he just wanted to make better business, he would have offered the more expensive system, but he suggested the Titan Xenomorph, which is the below. My question about it, is about the RAM, it only has 4 GB of RAM, and it has an i3 CPU, and not an i7, is it a big problem? The system:- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit OEM- Case: Antec 300 Case with Alien Green case fans. - Power Supply: OCZ Stealth Stream II 600W - CPU: Intel Core i3 530 2.93GHz Clarkdale overclocked to 4.20GHz- Motherboard: Gigabyte H55M-UDH2 Intel H55 (Socket 1156) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard- Cooler: Akasa AK-967 V2 Nero Direct Contact Heatpipe CPU Cooler- RAM: Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit- Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500BB SATA-II 16MB Cache- Graphics Card: XFX ATI Radeon HD 5870 AVP Edition 1024 MB GDDR5- Sound: Realtek 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board)- Optical Drive: LG DVD+/-RW SATA DriveIf I take this system, I will save around 300 EUR. But I am unsure, isn't it a disadvantage to buy the i3 rather than the i7? And the 4 GB RAM instead of the 6 GB might be another weaknes. I have now time until monday, but it will be a hard decision...