Hi all !Great news for us X-Plane fans ! Another famous FS developer will build X-Plane add-ons !

CARENADO ENTER X-PLANE MARKETOn August 18, 2010 Carenado is pleased to announce its entry to the X-Plane aircraft add-on market.All Carenado aircraft for X-Plane will have the same quality standards as they have in FSX and FS2004. Detailed models, realistic textures, custom instruments, realistic behavior and friendly FPS; making the flight experience very close to reality.The company chose the Mooney M20J as it first aircraft for this platform. The aircraft should be ready for sale during September, 2010.Carenado has plans to develop most of its current FSX fleet for X-Plane.Carenado

Source: http://www.carenado.com/ecommerce/novedades.php3 :( Reality-XP, REX, Carenado ... who's next ? :biggrin:Here's the post from their forum: http://forum.avsim.net/topic/293480-carenado-enters-x-plane-market/page__pid__1813129#entry1813129

Carenado and X-plane are a perfect fit, awesome GA aircraft with X-plane flight dynamicscan't wait to see what the marraige produces.It seems that the plane side of x-plane is being taken care of nicely(by carenado and others), now I would like to see some more scenery developers.

Hi all !They just released their C172N for X-Plane, after the Mooney, the Saratoga, the C152 and the Archer II ! :(

Hi all !They just released their C172N for X-Plane, after the Mooney, the Saratoga, the C152 and the Archer II ! :(

I bought the Archer II a few days ago. It's absolutely superb. Incredible how similar it is cosmetically to the FSX version, I suppose that shows how far X-plane has come. Have to buy the Cessna 172N, it's my favourite plane to fly in FSX and I'm sure it will be great in X-plane 9. CheersRhydian

I bought the Archer II a few days ago. It's absolutely superb. Incredible how similar it is cosmetically to the FSX version, I suppose that shows how far X-plane has come. Have to buy the Cessna 172N, it's my favourite plane to fly in FSX and I'm sure it will be great in X-plane 9. CheersRhydian

I bought the X-Plane Archer and the Mooney too.I also have the FSX Mooney with the hi-res Orbix VC textures, and to me the X-Plane version looks a lot better in the cockpit.The interior lights are dimable, the needles and scrolling are silky smooth, the animated keys swinging, and the lighting just overall looks better.Maybe its an open gl thing, not sure.I'm running a Phenom II 965 Quadcore at 3.8ghz with 4 gigs of ram, and the only way I can get FSX to run anywhere near as smooth is to disable all AI, disable Autogen, and fly with no clouds at 10-30 mile visibility.With X-Plane I have everything maxed out and its smooth as silk.Only gripe I have is with real weather these small GA planes get bumped around unrealistically no matter what the metar is it seems, even so I'm planning to get the new Carenado 172, and X-Plane 10 when its out.Chris

ChrisI would like to address your weather issue, if I may.I have been a pilot for 15 years and have flown GA's in that time. Both single engine and twin engine.When I first started flying solo, I would call the airport and ask them if I can book one of their Sundowners (Musketeers) and often times they would tell me it was too windy. The wind was only 10 to 15kts. But apparently that was too strong for a plane that size. When I was able to fly with a little wind in the air, the plane would bump quite a bit. GA's can get tossed around a fair bit in the calmest of conditions. Even with a wind as small as 4kts being variable up to 7kts or gusting up to 10-12 kts. It can also be bumped around when there is a change in wind direction. I have heard of some people saying x planes wind and weather simulation is incorrect, but I have to say, these same people are not pilots. Mostly, they are comparing the weather to FS9 or FSX weather.This is by no means gospel and just represents my view on it.

Hi guys,I am not a pilot myself and when I came over from FSX to X-Plane I felt the same way and I would have agreed with Chris that moment.Just af few months later I was flying over Holland in a Cessna 172.I must say that was a bumpy ride, alltough I have been airborne many times before in various small aircraft I never experienced the movements of the plane that way.I did not have a cup of coffee in my hand but the movements were so strong it would heve been absolutely impossible to keep the coffee in the cup.Not long ago I made a trip aboard a Max Holste Broussard , a plane as big as a De Havilland Beaver , in much better weather.The flight was not as bumpy as in the tiny Cessna there was no coffee if there was I would have spilled most of it.No need to say I fully agree with Goran.Leen de JagerMy link

ChrisI would like to address your weather issue, if I may.I have been a pilot for 15 years and have flown GA's in that time. Both single engine and twin engine.When I first started flying solo, I would call the airport and ask them if I can book one of their Sundowners (Musketeers) and often times they would tell me it was too windy. The wind was only 10 to 15kts. But apparently that was too strong for a plane that size. When I was able to fly with a little wind in the air, the plane would bump quite a bit. GA's can get tossed around a fair bit in the calmest of conditions. Even with a wind as small as 4kts being variable up to 7kts or gusting up to 10-12 kts. It can also be bumped around when there is a change in wind direction. I have heard of some people saying x planes wind and weather simulation is incorrect, but I have to say, these same people are not pilots. Mostly, they are comparing the weather to FS9 or FSX weather.This is by no means gospel and just represents my view on it.

Hi,I'm working on my PPL out of John Wayne, Orange County, CA (KSNA) in a 172.When I come home from my lesson (which is 15min from home), I fire up X-Plane with the current metar and go over the days lesson.All I'm saying is in the Carenado Mooney, Piper, and now 172 I just bought, 90% of the time I get knocked around WAAAAY more in X-Plane flying to and from the practice areas than I did just 45 min. earlier in real life.I've also got FSX with Active Sky, REX, etc., and duplicating the same flights with metar they are usually too smooth.Ohh well, thats just my observation, not a show stopper for me :)Chris

Hi,I'm working on my PPL out of John Wayne, Orange County, CA (KSNA) in a 172.When I come home from my lesson (which is 15min from home), I fire up X-Plane with the current metar and go over the days lesson.All I'm saying is in the Carenado Mooney, Piper, and now 172 I just bought, 90% of the time I get knocked around WAAAAY more in X-Plane flying to and from the practice areas than I did just 45 min. earlier in real life.I've also got FSX with Active Sky, REX, etc., and duplicating the same flights with metar they are usually too smooth.Ohh well, thats just my observation, not a show stopper for me :)Chris

Chris, I have to agree with you on this. I just received my PPL last month in a 172. At no point was I ever constantly battered in my training like X-Plane does with real weather downloaded. Yes, a Cessna gets bumped around on some days, but X-Plane is completely over the top with real weather downloaded.Scott

ChrisI would like to address your weather issue, if I may.I have been a pilot for 15 years and have flown GA's in that time. Both single engine and twin engine.When I first started flying solo, I would call the airport and ask them if I can book one of their Sundowners (Musketeers) and often times they would tell me it was too windy. The wind was only 10 to 15kts. But apparently that was too strong for a plane that size. When I was able to fly with a little wind in the air, the plane would bump quite a bit. GA's can get tossed around a fair bit in the calmest of conditions. Even with a wind as small as 4kts being variable up to 7kts or gusting up to 10-12 kts. It can also be bumped around when there is a change in wind direction. I have heard of some people saying x planes wind and weather simulation is incorrect, but I have to say, these same people are not pilots. Mostly, they are comparing the weather to FS9 or FSX weather.This is by no means gospel and just represents my view on it.

10-15 kts would be a good day much of the time where I live. Very surprised at your fbo!?

Check the times in the environment settings. The way you guys are describing it, it's like it's unflyable in the slightest wind. "Constantly battered"???Very rarely will x plane perform this way for me (and many others for that matter.)Check the x plane metar. Time of day. other weather settings.X-Planes flight model and weather model is more accurate now than it was in years past.

A few comments.I do turn the weather, turbulence settings..........in X-Plane down. While real GA can be bumpy, it can also be amazingly smooth. On most Sunday mornings, we fly our 23' wingspan, two seater airplane (Van's RV6A) to brunch. In the early morning hours, the aircraft will "often" fly so smoothly, that it's hard to really tell your moving with any speed. Yet we're doing approx. 180 mph across the ground. I live in mountain country. Sometimes the winds can be 12 kias or so, on the runway, yet fairly smooth in flight. Or it can be the opposite. Bumpy up, and smooth below.On the other hand, those smooth morning flights, will often turn into different variables of turbulence, as the sun heats the ground. Noon time can get rough. Afternoon & evening hours often calm down again. Winter will usually have more calm time, than summer.Last month, I flew across several states to Montana. Below the clouds and above the mountains, it was quite turbulent. Above the clouds, it was sunshine, blue sky, and a very smooth ride. I don't really like simulated turbulence, unless it's a simulated storm, or mountain waves. It's annoying for real, and annoying for the sim. That's why I've turned the default settings down. Simulated airplanes "don't" have to bounce around, to be perceived as real.L.Adamson

I do turn the weather, turbulence settings..........in X-Plane down. While real GA can be bumpy, it can also be amazingly smooth.

Where do you turn down the turbulence in the settings when you download real weather? I have always preferred using real weather when flying in MSFS, and when I try X-Plane I just can't deal with it. I have a pretty low-capacity HDD and removed X-Plane months ago. I'd give it another shot if I can get a lot of the gyrations real weather causes ironed out. Don't get me wrong - I actually like a lot about X-Plane and I enjoy challenges in simming. Occasional turbulence would add to the immersion, but it's just too much, too often for my liking.Thanks,Scott

Where do you turn down the turbulence in the settings when you download real weather? I have always preferred using real weather when flying in MSFS, and when I try X-Plane I just can't deal with it. I have a pretty low-capacity HDD and removed X-Plane months ago. I'd give it another shot if I can get a lot of the gyrations real weather causes ironed out. Don't get me wrong - I actually like a lot about X-Plane and I enjoy challenges in simming. Occasional turbulence would add to the immersion, but it's just too much, too often for my liking.Thanks,Scott

I'd like to know as well.I just finished L35 to SNA in the Carenado 172, and got absolutely hammered the whole way.Believe me its a beautiful calm balmy evening here in So.Cal,, and this was like trying to fly in a Santa Ana wind.I have never been consistently buffeted like that either in GA planes as passenger, or in a lesson. :(

I'd like to know as well.I just finished L35 to SNA in the Carenado 172, and got absolutely hammered the whole way.Believe me its a beautiful calm balmy evening here in So.Cal,, and this was like trying to fly in a Santa Ana wind.I have never been consistently buffeted like that either in GA planes as passenger, or in a lesson. :(

The other culprit could be the actual flight model.I don't have the new cessna but I do know if the flight model isn't made correctly, the weather can seriously affect the aircraft handling in wind.There are several settings in Planemaker that can be adjusted, yet are often overlooked.There are other payware products at www.x-aviation.com that you might want to take a look at.