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Aerosoft airbus x released!

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I might be tempted. :)If anyone gets it, please post short initial review.

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I have not really followed this project at all, I heard that it was not very complex, but after reading the product features it seems to be more then what I expected. One thing that I did here mentioned is that it does have Navigraph support, but it did not support Sids and Stars, you had to imput them manually, is this accurate????edit: cancel last I guess it does not support Sids and Stars only manual entry of them. Weird

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Yes, SID/STARS are just a short-hand form of listing multiple waypoints, in the same way jet airways are. There is no actual disadvantage to manually inputting the waypoints the procedure calls for.

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Yes, SID/STARS are just a short-hand form of listing multiple waypoints, in the same way jet airways are. There is no actual disadvantage to manually inputting the waypoints the procedure calls for.
Oh, there are disadvantages to that for sure. Just think about it, you fly online, the controller is assigning you to a different STAR than the one you originally planned for. Now you have to Aviate, Navigate, Communicate and reprogram the FMC manually. And play the role of both the captain and the FO at the same time. This can be a bit hectic to say the least.

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Looks like a nice model, if Ernie can intergrate his ISG2 FMC into this airplane I will buy.

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Oh, there are disadvantages to that for sure. Just think about it, you fly online, the controller is assigning you to a different STAR than the one you originally planned for. Now you have to Aviate, Navigate, Communicate and reprogram the FMC manually. And play the role of both the captain and the FO at the same time. This can be a bit hectic to say the least.
At the same time though, you should be able to handle all of that! Pilots did all of the flying we do now without any of the technological assistance. It's there as a convenience, not because it can't be done otherwise! Anyway, that's not aerosoft's reasoning but my own opinion..If you have all of the charts ready to roll and get re-assigned at the last moment, get the first one or two waypoints in there so you are on-course. If you have pressing duties take care of them and then finish the addition of the STAR/SID. It's not ideal, but it is in no means a deal-breaker.

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I have been following this project pretty much since conception, the only disadvantages are no 2D panels and no SID/STAR support. but its an airbus, relatively little pilot workload, so entering a couple of waypoints is hardly going to be gamebreaking ;)

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I wish they would work for another month after ironing out any bugs and give us a little more advanced FMC with sid/stars. I would certainly buy the product then, and even pay a little more. SID/STARs are a deal breaker for me.

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Same with me, I can understand no having a failure module and that kinda thing, but simplified VNAV no SID/STAR, no HOLD and pretty much the FMC looks very basic, so I'll have to pass. Maybe they will do an advanced version, if so I'd buy two copies to support these guys.Ron Hamilton

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the only disadvantages are no 2D panels and no SID/STAR support.
I don't understand what is the fascination with the 2D cockpits? In this day in age and especially with a product like TrackIR, 2D panels are pretty much obsolete. Is it the price of TrackIR, inability to pan in the VC? What is it?Yea, SID/STAR support would be sweet but is unnecessary for someone who doesn't fly online and does not need to get sudden vector changes from ATC.

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I don't understand what is the fascination with the 2D cockpits? In this day in age and especially with a product like TrackIR, 2D panels are pretty much obsolete. Is it the price of TrackIR, inability to pan in the VC? What is it?Yea, SID/STAR support would be sweet but is unnecessary for someone who doesn't fly online and does not need get sudden vector changes from ATC.
personal preference i believe, 2D panels have been in FS since the beginning so i guess its just always been 'standard'. As for the SID/STAR, its a nice touch of realism, that i use on the level d 767 and PMDG 747, but where it lacks in that area, it makes up for in terms of looks, sounds, and performance. As i said, i'm just waiting for the boxed version my friend ;)

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I don't understand what is the fascination with the 2D cockpits? In this day in age and especially with a product like TrackIR, 2D panels are pretty much obsolete. Is it the price of TrackIR, inability to pan in the VC? What is it?...
TrackIR isnt a solution at all imo. For me, using a 2d panel is about being able to easily reach whatever i need, and that the clickspots are in the exact same location etc. This is important when the workload is high. Remember, in a real airplane the pilots knows blindfolded where to reach to be able to manipulate the glareshield control panel, where the com radio is etc. On a computer screen this isnt as intuitive, having to use the mouse to move some mouse pointer on a screen that is 2d. Plus in a sim youre the only pilot, in real life the work load is cut in half. These kind of issues makes the 2d panel the obvious choice, all controls and click spots are in the exact same position all the time.

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I have not really followed this project at all, I heard that it was not very complex, but after reading the product features it seems to be more then what I expected. One thing that I did here mentioned is that it does have Navigraph support, but it did not support Sids and Stars, you had to imput them manually, is this accurate????edit: cancel last I guess it does not support Sids and Stars only manual entry of them. Weird
Maybe I missed this on the product page, but where does it say that SID/STAR is not supported? Aren't they included in Navigraph's data?Toni.

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TrackIR isnt a solution at all imo. For me, using a 2d panel is about being able to easily reach whatever i need, and that the clickspots are in the exact same location etc. This is important when the workload is high. Remember, in a real airplane the pilots knows blindfolded where to reach to be able to manipulate the glareshield control panel, where the com radio is etc. On a computer screen this isnt as intuitive, having to use the mouse to move some mouse pointer on a screen that is 2d. Plus in a sim youre the only pilot, in real life the work load is cut in half. These kind of issues makes the 2d panel the obvious choice, all controls and click spots are in the exact same position all the time.
Did you even try TrackIR? Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to pick on you or try to start some silly argument. I'm just curious.

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you could use a camera product and use pre-set views (FMC, Overhead, etc).. I have given up on 2D a long time ago, using trackIR, and EZCA, the immersion factor is pretty good.. give it a try, you never know :)John

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TrackIR made a VC user out of me a long time ago. Change can be rough for some though.Looking forward to hearing some reviews on this bird. It's tempting.

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Just got the AirbusX and flew a short leg. Very nice model! I think at the moment is second to none!Does anyone know how do we get more liveries for this Airbus? Best

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Just got the AirbusX and flew a short leg. Very nice model! I think at the moment is second to none!Does anyone know how do we get more liveries for this Airbus? Best
How's the sound? VC clarity? Did you autoland or manually?As far as liveries, they've said they'll make more available shortly after release. Is United livery included?

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Just got the AirbusX and flew a short leg. Very nice model! I think at the moment is second to none!Does anyone know how do we get more liveries for this Airbus? Best
Did they buuild a seperate mdl for the VC so it can easily be merged?

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I don't understand what is the fascination with the 2D cockpits? In this day in age and especially with a product like TrackIR, 2D panels are pretty much obsolete. Is it the price of TrackIR, inability to pan in the VC? What is it?
I could write you pages of explanations why I prefer 2D. And yes, I have a head tracking device (that I don't use anymore). Look, there are people flying in VC mode only (opposed to you, something that I don't understand), and others who prefer 2D. Some like this, others that. The discussion what is better, VC or 2D, has already been beaten to death. I for my part are in the community of those who don't want VCs and don't buy VC only planes, others do the same, it's that simple. It's pretty nonsense to say 2D panels are obsolete. They will be obsolete one day a much better technology will be available, but not in the forseeable mid-term.Andreas

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I fly only from the VC, but have never used any addon view product. To me a hat switch on my yoke is plenty along with the mouse. The VC just gives me a feeling of "being there" the 2d more of a chore like sitting in a class room. Plus it helps learning where everything is in the cockpit in relation to your seat, great practice.

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At the same time though, you should be able to handle all of that! Pilots did all of the flying we do now without any of the technological assistance. It's there as a convenience, not because it can't be done otherwise! Anyway, that's not aerosoft's reasoning but my own opinion..If you have all of the charts ready to roll and get re-assigned at the last moment, get the first one or two waypoints in there so you are on-course. If you have pressing duties take care of them and then finish the addition of the STAR/SID. It's not ideal, but it is in no means a deal-breaker.
A lot of airfields nowadays don't have STAR procedures that are navaid based, but waypoint based (coordinates instead of VOR radial/distance). So no, if you're instructed to fly an unplanned STAR, you'll be in a world of hurry to get all those waypoints punched in. Sometimes you can't simply tune a VOR or ILS and steer "that away" anymore.If you're lucky there's a VOR/DME approach chart for the airport you can request it from the ATC, but those usually aren't used for fast jets. Imagine an Airbus requesting to take the VOR approach and trying to slow down to stay behind that Cessna twin. Alpha floor, anyone? :(

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Did they buuild a seperate mdl for the VC so it can easily be merged?
Is there a specific reason you'd want to do that? The exterior model of the Airbus X must be one of the most beautiful I have ever seen and I wouldn't want to swap it for anything else...

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After 2 hours I have been unable to configure the throttles. :( Normally I use FSUIPC for all joystick calibration. Unfortunately it is required to configure the throttles via the FSX control axis menu. I always disable controller in this menu to prevent problems since I have many controllers attached (Saitek yoke, 2 Saitek throttle units, CH throttle quadrant, CH rudder pedals, Logitech joystick.)Anybody else having similar problems? And yes I have read the Vol1 guide Q and A ... Going to eat now and try again later...

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