February 19, 201115 yr For those of you that have flown the PMDG 737 and now fly the IFLY 737, was there much difference in learning the flying characteristics and procedures when switching over to IFLY? I just purchased the IFLY after a few years with the PMDG. I realize that there are more systems simulated with the IFLY. So what was the most diffulcult to adjust to?I really don't relish studing the 500+ page manual if much of it is similar to PMDG, which I think, should be the case.I appreciate your input, and thank you.Jim D.
February 19, 201115 yr For those of you that have flown the PMDG 737 and now fly the IFLY 737, was there much difference in learning the flying characteristics and procedures when switching over to IFLY? I just purchased the IFLY after a few years with the PMDG. I realize that there are more systems simulated with the IFLY. So what was the most diffulcult to adjust to?I really don't relish studing the 500+ page manual if much of it is similar to PMDG, which I think, should be the case.I appreciate your input, and thank you.Jim D.I've just switched to iFly for couple of days and in my opinion the procedures are pretty much similar. The only difficulty that I'm having is my patient :( Can't wait for the next service pack :(/If you have flown the PMDG then 515 pages of manual shouldn't take long :( Hoang Le i7 13700k - Sapphire Nitro+ AMD RX 7900 XT - Asus TUF Z790 PLUS D4 - Gskill Trident 32GB DDR4-3600 LG 34GP63A-B Ultrawide - ASUS VG259QM MSFS2020
February 19, 201115 yr To be honest in its day the PMDG was pretty detailed so if you can fly that then you'll have no problems with the iFly. Yes the iFLy has more simulated systems but most of the advancements are really in terms of graphics, fidelity and flight model rather than systems. It really is a superb add-on which I'd go so far as to say is probably an all time high for FS9. I'd also recommend you to have a look at FS2 Crew for the iFly which takes a lot of the pressure off you as PF. Once you get your head around it you really can just leave the FO to get on with most things and concentrate on the flying, just like in real ife.
February 19, 201115 yr To be honest in its day the PMDG was pretty detailed so if you can fly that then you'll have no problems with the iFly. Yes the iFLy has more simulated systems but most of the advancements are really in terms of graphics, fidelity and flight model rather than systems. It really is a superb add-on which I'd go so far as to say is probably an all time high for FS9. I'd also recommend you to have a look at FS2 Crew for the iFly which takes a lot of the pressure off you as PF. Once you get your head around it you really can just leave the FO to get on with most things and concentrate on the flying, just like in real ife.Totally agree with you :( I'm saving my money again to buy Fs2Crew..can't wait to have it!!! Hoang Le i7 13700k - Sapphire Nitro+ AMD RX 7900 XT - Asus TUF Z790 PLUS D4 - Gskill Trident 32GB DDR4-3600 LG 34GP63A-B Ultrawide - ASUS VG259QM MSFS2020
February 19, 201115 yr Don't forget MultiCrewExperience supports iFly also. One cool thing is its ability to chain commands together withought waiting for your first to execute. I use it and FS2Crew for a really awesome experience.
February 19, 201115 yr Author Thanks for the replys. I do have MCE but haven't really used it. I'll give it go again with the IFLY. I did have a problem in the beginning as the procedure for bringing the aircraft to life was a little different than the PMDG model. While I did get the batteries to supply power, I couldn't get Ground Power to take over. Then I did the "If evertything else fails, READ THE DIRECTIONS" thing and saw where I have to go to the IFLY tab when in the window mode and check the "CONNECT Ground Power" command. Now all is coming together.Thanks for the encouragement.Jim D.
February 20, 201115 yr Well I couldn't resist the temptation after reading so many praises about the Ifly 737-NG and finally I purchased it some days ago.Used as I am to the rock-solid stability of the LevelD-767, I've found the Ifly to be the most unstable plane when handflying it of all my FS9 fleet.Not to say that it is more FPS hungry than the PMDG-737.My copilot only says "V1", and nothing else on takeoff (no "Rotate" callout).The config manager and Ifly menu are somewhat confusing and not always save my elections.I'm also having problems with autopilot refusing to engage after takeoff (as many other people has, afaik) and LNAV not arming on the ground.So, I've taken the aircraft back to the hangar where it will be resting for some time until I decide to give it another try, and I've taken out my beloved PMDG-737 again into the air. signed: José Luis
February 20, 201115 yr HiJust for info, no any major problems with iFly b737.It is one of the most stable planes when hand flying.About FPS hit, same like any newer PMDG plane like MD11.Ok, PMDG B737 is less FPS hungry, but in my opinion it is much less simulated then iFly.Config manager is great and I don't see what is the problem with Config manager?!AP engaging without any problems. Never had any problems with AP engagement.Probably spikes from Yoke. Read about it on support forum: http://ifly.flight1.net/forumsIt has some minor bugs, like LOC Only Approach bug, but I hope it will be solved in future pack.I wrote this because if You read Basa post, you could have totally wrong picture about iFly b737.One of the best a/c for fs9.And support is GREAT. ThanksEdin
February 21, 201115 yr HiJust for info, no any major problems with iFly b737.It is one of the most stable planes when hand flying.About FPS hit, same like any newer PMDG plane like MD11.Ok, PMDG B737 is less FPS hungry, but in my opinion it is much less simulated then iFly.Config manager is great and I don't see what is the problem with Config manager?!AP engaging without any problems. Never had any problems with AP engagement.Probably spikes from Yoke. Read about it on support forum: http://ifly.flight1.net/forumsIt has some minor bugs, like LOC Only Approach bug, but I hope it will be solved in future pack.I wrote this because if You read Basa post, you could have totally wrong picture about iFly b737.One of the best a/c for fs9.And support is GREAT. ThanksEdinEdin,Just so you know I've found that the only time there is a LOC only problem is when the runway ONLY has Loc and no GS. I f you go into Afcad and just check the GS box for that runway and add a GS there is no more LOC only problem. Will work until the FP comes out and they fix it. Other than that I agree with you. LOVE this plane and have had No problems with it.
February 21, 201115 yr HiYes I know that :( Thanks again.Edin Edin,Just so you know I've found that the only time there is a LOC only problem is when the runway ONLY has Loc and no GS. I f you go into Afcad and just check the GS box for that runway and add a GS there is no more LOC only problem. Will work until the FP comes out and they fix it. Other than that I agree with you. LOVE this plane and have had No problems with it.
February 21, 201115 yr Well I couldn't resist the temptation after reading so many praises about the Ifly 737-NG and finally I purchased it some days ago.Used as I am to the rock-solid stability of the LevelD-767, I've found the Ifly to be the most unstable plane when handflying it of all my FS9 fleet.Not to say that it is more FPS hungry than the PMDG-737.My copilot only says "V1", and nothing else on takeoff (no "Rotate" callout).The config manager and Ifly menu are somewhat confusing and not always save my elections.I'm also having problems with autopilot refusing to engage after takeoff (as many other people has, afaik) and LNAV not arming on the ground.So, I've taken the aircraft back to the hangar where it will be resting for some time until I decide to give it another try, and I've taken out my beloved PMDG-737 again into the air. You should have tried to go into their forum,this has been discussed many times and there is few ways to solve it already.Anyway,everybody has their own opinions :( I don't really expect this "new bird" eat as less FPS as the PMDG 737 "years old" Hoang Le i7 13700k - Sapphire Nitro+ AMD RX 7900 XT - Asus TUF Z790 PLUS D4 - Gskill Trident 32GB DDR4-3600 LG 34GP63A-B Ultrawide - ASUS VG259QM MSFS2020
February 21, 201115 yr No complaints here, the Autopilot was fixed with the latest service packs. You should enter the licensed forum and have your issues addressed, they reallly will help you with your issues.
February 21, 201115 yr Well I couldn't resist the temptation after reading so many praises about the Ifly 737-NG and finally I purchased it some days ago.Used as I am to the rock-solid stability of the LevelD-767, I've found the Ifly to be the most unstable plane when handflying it of all my FS9 fleet.Not to say that it is more FPS hungry than the PMDG-737.My copilot only says "V1", and nothing else on takeoff (no "Rotate" callout).That isn't the copilot, that is the plane.The real one also only features a v1 callout, for the Rotate call you'll have to get a trained First Officer.You guys wanted realism, didn't you?The config manager and Ifly menu are somewhat confusing and not always save my elections.They're only confusing if you do not read the manual,or have Windows set to interfere with some of the config manager operations.I'm also having problems with autopilot refusing to engage after takeoff (as many other people has, afaik) and LNAV not arming on the ground.You have to trim out the aircraft just as a real pilot has to before he can engage the autopilot.There's again a big sticky in the iFly support forum where all is explained and if you do not understandit the guys overthere will be glad to help.as for the LNAV issue :From the FCOM:LNAV arming criteria on the ground:• origin runway in flight plan• active route entered in FMC• track of first leg within 5 degrees of runway heading• LNAV selected prior to TO/GA.• LNAV guidance becomes active at 50 feet AGLSo, I've taken the aircraft back to the hangar where it will be resting for some time until I decide to give it another try, and I've taken out my beloved PMDG-737 again into the air.I think that is the problem,you are so used to how the PMDG bird handles you expect any other 737by any other softwarehouse to fly the same.The iFly doesn't, and once you dive in deep and try to learn instead of critique you might just get to understand how good a sim it actually is.I strongly encourage you to visit the iFly support forum anyway, as most of the " issues"you raise are well documented and I daresay even fixed.JP.
February 21, 201115 yr Couldn't agree more with JP here. I don't mean anything on basa,those are his opinions. Some people was so used to flight simulator that almost forget about the real side of this bird and they are annoyed by some "strange" behaviors with the iFly 737 which are the "realistic" behaviors and keep saying those are bugs.And yes, I am too have been used to the "V1..Rotate..V2..Possitive Rate...Gear Up" by the F/O but hey,iFly designed for us to be the captain,so if you want a F/O sits next to you,pay for the FS2Crew and enjoy it :biggrin:I can't wait to buy the FS2Crew edition for iFly :( Hoang Le i7 13700k - Sapphire Nitro+ AMD RX 7900 XT - Asus TUF Z790 PLUS D4 - Gskill Trident 32GB DDR4-3600 LG 34GP63A-B Ultrawide - ASUS VG259QM MSFS2020
February 21, 201115 yr HiJust for info, no any major problems with iFly b737.It is one of the most stable planes when hand flying.About FPS hit, same like any newer PMDG plane like MD11.Ok, PMDG B737 is less FPS hungry, but in my opinion it is much less simulated then iFly.Config manager is great and I don't see what is the problem with Config manager?!AP engaging without any problems. Never had any problems with AP engagement.Probably spikes from Yoke. Read about it on support forum: http://ifly.flight1.net/forumsIt has some minor bugs, like LOC Only Approach bug, but I hope it will be solved in future pack.I wrote this because if You read Basa post, you could have totally wrong picture about iFly b737.One of the best a/c for fs9.And support is GREAT. ThanksEdinWell, the problem of autopilot engaging has been solved, it was all a question of leaving any pressure on the joystick while pushing the button.I still have not been able to arm LNAV on the ground. I always get a "NOT ON INTERCEPT HEADING" message in the CDU while I have a perfectly aligned with the runway first leg in my flightplan.About the config manager and Ifly menu: I get different results every time I load the aircraft (always after loading the C172 first), sometimes I get correct fuel load, sometimes one tank is full and the other empty, sometimes the engines are running and sometimes not, sometimes the units are US and others metric, etc etc.About the unstability: Despite having my Joystick perfectly calibrated via registered Fsuipc and working OK with other aircraft, with the Ifly 737 (properly trimmed) the slightest movement of the joystick at takeoff makes the aircraft rotate violently with no possibility of control. I've tried setting the sensibility of the joystick to minimum in the Ifly menu, but did not make any difference.Anyway, I've now already registered as a licensed member in the Ifly forum and will take these issues there and see if I can find solutions to my problems. signed: José Luis
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