Hello everyone.I have a question about the ND. In the nd i can see my flightplan. but all around it is black. My question is if it is possible to show a map in the nd so you can see where you are flying. (Like in the default fs 737 you can use the gps and then you see the map and where you are flying. So is it possible to do this so that you see where you are flying instead of all black around you in the ND. I hope it is clear what i mean, my english isn't that good.THNXRemy

Hello everyone.I have a question about the ND. In the nd i can see my flightplan. but all around it is black. My question is if it is possible to show a map in the nd so you can see where you are flying. (Like in the default fs 737 you can use the gps and then you see the map and where you are flying. So is it possible to do this so that you see where you are flying instead of all black around you in the ND. I hope it is clear what i mean, my english isn't that good.THNXRemy

We need your full name in your signature, forum rules. In then 07 Systems Operations Manual, please review in the Navigation Displays Expanded and Center Map Modes, 7-55 through 7-59 as well as Flight Instrument Displays EFIS Instruments - Controls and indicators, 7-59 through 7-62. These sections describe the systems and capabilities. Let us know if you have further questions. :(

Hello thnxs for the quick reply.But that is not the answer to my question. What i mean is if you can set the nd display so that you see the route you are flying ((same as now in map mode) and underneath that route you see the moving earth map. so you can see where you are flying on earth. just like in the regular gps from fs itself, you see a moving map in the background on the gps and you see the route of your navigation. So the question is if it is possible to show a moving map in your nd so you can see where you are flying like for example you can see if you are flying over ..... country? Hope it is now clear what i mean. It's difficult to explain in english what i exactly mean, but i hop you understand now what i mean. So i mean a moving map (from the terrain you're flying over) in the nd, just like in the default gps in fs.Thnx once again.Gr.Remy van de MortelThe Netherlands

We need your full name in your signature, forum rules. In then 07 Systems Operations Manual, please review in the Navigation Displays Expanded and Center Map Modes, 7-55 through 7-59 as well as Flight Instrument Displays EFIS Instruments - Controls and indicators, 7-59 through 7-62. These sections describe the systems and capabilities.Let us know if you have further questions.

Hello thnxs for the quick reply.But that is not the answer to my question. What i mean is if you can set the nd display so that you see the route you are flying ((same as now in map mode) and underneath that route you see the moving earth map. so you can see where you are flying on earth. just like in the regular gps from fs itself, you see a moving map in the background on the gps and you see the route of your navigation. So the question is if it is possible to show a moving map in your nd so you can see where you are flying like for example you can see if you are flying over ..... country? Hope it is now clear what i mean. It's difficult to explain in english what i exactly mean, but i hop you understand now what i mean. So i mean a moving map (from the terrain you're flying over) in the nd, just like in the default gps in fs.Thnx once again.Gr.Remy van de MortelThe Netherlands

What's described in the manual is what can be displayed on the ND. I have seen a few posts on folks working on trying to incorporate the FSX and other add-on GPS instruments into the panel. A forum search may provide a few quick answers.

Hello thnxs for the quick reply.But that is not the answer to my question. What i mean is if you can set the nd display so that you see the route you are flying ((same as now in map mode) and underneath that route you see the moving earth map. so you can see where you are flying on earth. just like in the regular gps from fs itself, you see a moving map in the background on the gps and you see the route of your navigation. So the question is if it is possible to show a moving map in your nd so you can see where you are flying like for example you can see if you are flying over ..... country? Hope it is now clear what i mean. It's difficult to explain in english what i exactly mean, but i hop you understand now what i mean. So i mean a moving map (from the terrain you're flying over) in the nd, just like in the default gps in fs.Thnx once again.Gr.Remy van de MortelThe Netherlands

Hi Remy,I think what you are asking for is not available in the sim because it simply doesn't exist in real life - ie on the real NG, (someone please correct me if I am wrong !).The ND allows to display quite a few symbols (waypoints, airports, navigation aids etc.) but not a full moving map.Btw, it would be interesting to know if any airliner ND allows to do that at all. I guess it's of little use for airline flying...For your information, in the real NG, you can also superimpose a weather radar image on the ND but PMDG chose not to support this because MSFS would not allow to collect realistic data.Hope this helps,Bruno

I haven't heard of any airplanes modified for this. Most airlines wouldn't pay for it, even if it was an option.

The closest thing any airliner (I know of) has on a ND is the terrain display if its even equipped. Other than that, the only moving map is usually the IFE display in the passenger cabin.

If you want more stuff to look at on the ND, turn on the stations, fixes, and airports.

Hello everyone. THNX for al the answers.I hope that someone could make it possible in the future to make it possible to see a moving map. For myself i find it easier if there is a moving map so i can actually see where i am flying.Maybe another question/possibility.Is it possible to use the default gps from fs in the cockpit? I don't want it to work, but just show up so i can see the moving map. Like for example when i press shift+0 that the gps pops up?? i believe that shift+0 now doesnt have any assignments correct me if i'm wrong. Is this possible??THNXthnxRemy van de MortelThe Netherlands

Hello everyone. THNX for al the answers.I hope that someone could make it possible in the future to make it possible to see a moving map. For myself i find it easier if there is a moving map so i can actually see where i am flying.Maybe another question/possibility.Is it possible to use the default gps from fs in the cockpit? I don't want it to work, but just show up so i can see the moving map. Like for example when i press shift+0 that the gps pops up?? i believe that shift+0 now doesnt have any assignments correct me if i'm wrong. Is this possible??THNXthnxRemy van de MortelThe Netherlands

Remy,This question has come up regularly, mostly by people who didn't want to learn how to use the FMS (which is not your case). I believe the answer is no.My suggestion : as you become more familiar with the NG and its system, you'll forget very quicky about the default GPS and its moving map. You'll be concerned with airways, SIDs and STARs instead. What you need is a good flight planning software package.I use FS Navigator which provides a map (with your actual position) in a separate window and I must admit it is great not only for flight planning but also for orientation in case you get confused. Unfortunately, I can't recommend it to you as it is not available anymore but there are other very good flight planning software packages around. Maybe some of them provide moving maps?Bruno

HelloIndeed i know how the fmc works, that is no problem.But i think it's handy and i like it for my information to see where i am flying in the world.I have some navigation software, but that does not support a map which follows you.So therefore my question if it would be possible to use the default gps of fs just to see where you are, i thought that it wouldn't be that difficult, but probably it is difficult to assign the gps to for example shift+0.THNX for the answers.

Remy,This question has come up regularly, mostly by people who didn't want to learn how to use the FMS (which is not your case). I believe the answer is no.My suggestion : as you become more familiar with the NG and its system, you'll forget very quicky about the default GPS and its moving map. You'll be concerned with airways, SIDs and STARs instead. What you need is a good flight planning software package.I use FS Navigator which provides a map (with your actual position) in a separate window and I must admit it is great not only for flight planning but also for orientation in case you get confused. Unfortunately, I can't recommend it to you as it is not available anymore but there are other very good flight planning software packages around. Maybe some of them provide moving maps?Bruno

Remy: I recommend you become proficient at using aeronautical charts instead of relying on a topographic map. I rarely have a vfr chart in the cockpit anymore, most navigation is with reference to airways, fixes and navaids and if I want to know where I am then I look at the DME to see my distance to the navaid or the ND will display distance/time to next fix. Believe me, moving maps have very little value and that is why you don't see them in airliners.Free current real world charts are available from Eurocontrol on-line.

Hello.I really know and i CAN FLY WITHOUT THE GPS i just personaly think it is handy for myself to see where i am flying so once again i can fly with the fmc, waypoints etc. i just find it handy to see where i am flying so that is why i really like to have a moving map. Just for info to see where i am flying and for example which country i fly over etc. etc.And i tought it was possible to let the default fs gps pop up so you can use it (just to look at where you are), but it seems not possibleTHNXRemy van de Mortel

Remy: I recommend you become proficient at using aeronautical charts instead of relying on a topographic map. I rarely have a vfr chart in the cockpit anymore, most navigation is with reference to airways, fixes and navaids and if I want to know where I am then I look at the DME to see my distance to the navaid or the ND will display distance/time to next fix. Believe me, moving maps have very little value and that is why you don't see them in airliners.Free current real world charts are available from Eurocontrol on-line.

The real NG's ND does not display a map or anything like that. It has EGPWS terrain display (which does not look like the type of map you are thinking of), and we have simulated this in the new NGX.

FWIW:I have a Belair cockpit video cockpit video of 763 and 752 flights. I don't know if it was the 763 captain's personal choice or airline policy but for terrain awareness he referred to a map collection manual called 'The Pilot's Fee Flight Atlas' published by Absolutezero and out of print. It comes in a North America volume for the US, Canada, and Mexico, and a Europe, Sorth Africa, and Middle East volume.These are low resolution (one inch = 27.5 nm) mostly topographical maps with locations of major VORs, NDBs, waypoints (including some oceanic), and runway length classified airports with at least 700m runways that are ICAO registered. High spots are shown in feet or meters as appropriate to the region. Its intended audience is for any pilots that wish to 'get a feel' for what's beneath them and provide some terrain situational awareness possibly for use in very drastic navigational emergencies. Major highways are overlaid on the topography as well. It's for those flying in unfamiliar locations. For airline pilots laying over in major cities some street maps are included. For those of poor geographical knowledge (like me) it provided interesting terrain and aeronautical features. World political maps have overprinted index keys to the more detailed topo maps.These out of print guides also have appendices regarding weather symbols, weather anatomy, VOLMET broadcasting locations (not in FS) crosswind computation charts, etc., that are of general interest. Airways are not shown. It looks like the Europe volume has a new edition and the US volume is still available. Amazon only has these at rare book prices. For the US these guides are still shown where I purchased them:http://www.stopoverstore.com/product/detail.cfm/pnid/415/pnid2/422/nid/424/pid/377http://www.stopoverstore.com/product/detail.cfm/pnid/415/pnid2/422/nid/423/pid/1271at US $33 plus shipping. This is a supply store for airline crews located in a secure area of KMSP. (I had mine sent UPS since the area was not accessible to me.)I can't find the date of the data but I assume it is very late 1980's or early 1990's. Jeppesen furnished the aeronautical data.I used them to find flights of interesting terrain and durations of up to four hours and then looking for the current airlines and flight schedules available for airports of interest.For the OP there are some applications that run in a separate window that are moving maps using Google Earth tht might be of interest.