April 13, 201115 yr Im not talking about regional airlines in 3rd world countries. Personally I won't fly with them, hence why the post started with I. Cars are obviously much more dangerous as you don't really need any training to be able to drive, not to mention you are driving down the road or highway at 100km/h within feet of eachother. If I didn't have to drive I wouldn't, but it gets mighty cold up here therefore walking becomes much more dangerous with windchills hitting the -50C mark so Ill take my chances. All I am saying is Air France has had multiple fatal crashes in the last 15 years so I wouldn't fly with them. Airbuses sketch me out too, Boeing all the way. How does that make me crazy? because I have a preference as to which aircraft I like to fly on? or is it because I dissagree with you? Call me crazy all you want Paul.. But I know you'll be thinking about it when your Air France Airbus starts to clip the trees.. right before the OH SH.... BOOM! Should have flown on a boeing.
April 13, 201115 yr Im not talking about regional airlines in 3rd world countries. Personally I won't fly with them, hence why the post started with I. Cars are obviously much more dangerous as you don't really need any training to be able to drive, not to mention you are driving down the road or highway at 100km/h within feet of eachother. If I didn't have to drive I wouldn't, but it gets mighty cold up here therefore walking becomes much more dangerous with windchills hitting the -50C mark so Ill take my chances. All I am saying is Air France has had multiple fatal crashes in the last 15 years so I wouldn't fly with them. Airbuses sketch me out too, Boeing all the way. How does that make me crazy? because I have a preference as to which aircraft I like to fly on? or is it because I dissagree with you? Call me crazy all you want Paul.. But I know you'll be thinking about it when your Air France Airbus starts to clip the trees.. right before the OH SH.... BOOM! Should have flown on a boeing.I agree with you, I never go out my home, polluted air or diseases from mosquito bites can kill us all. Ben
April 13, 201115 yr ~6600 737s "As of May 2010, a total of 303 incidents involving 737s had occurred, including 148 hull-loss accidents resulting in a total of 4,097 fatalities."~6900 A320s "For the entire A320 family there have been 17 hull-loss accidents with a total of 795 fatalities as of July 2010."Quotes from wikipedia. Yeah, you go and fly on those safe Boeings lol
April 13, 201115 yr How does that make me crazy? because I have a preference as to which aircraft I like to fly on? or is it because I dissagree with you? Call me crazy all you want Paul.. But I know you'll be thinking about it when your Air France Airbus starts to clip the trees.. right before the OH SH.... BOOM! Should have flown on a boeing.+1 I agree with what you said, and I don't think your crazy. Everyone is entitled to preferences. I think too, that some of the incidents with airbus come from the way information is presented and actions are executed when it comes to autoflight. With airbus, it seems that the plane gathers information, and does most of the decision making itself. However, with Boeing, it presents the information to the pilot, and the pilot chooses which decision to make. The Boeing approach seems better and safer to me. It is important to note however, that both Boeing and airbus a extremely safe, and flying on either is a privilege for the simple fact that you get to fly. However, if I have a choice, for me Boeing always wins. Ethan Rayhorn My Office: (Taken at FL410)
April 13, 201115 yr ~6600 737s "As of May 2010, a total of 303 incidents involving 737s had occurred, including 148 hull-loss accidents resulting in a total of 4,097 fatalities."~6900 A320s "For the entire A320 family there have been 17 hull-loss accidents with a total of 795 fatalities as of July 2010."Quotes from wikipedia. Yeah, you go and fly on those safe Boeings lolWow, I knew the A320 family was safer, but the number are really impressive :(.I will never fly on an 737 again , only my mother in law is more dangerous.Ben
April 13, 201115 yr And a really excited user will manage to get this thread locked as well. Good job
April 13, 201115 yr And a really excited user will manage to get this thread locked as well. Good job Although I do lean on the Boeing side, I agree 200%, your opinion is accepted, there is no wrong or right, so don't argue over it.
April 13, 201115 yr ~6600 737s "As of May 2010, a total of 303 incidents involving 737s had occurred, including 148 hull-loss accidents resulting in a total of 4,097 fatalities."~6900 A320s "For the entire A320 family there have been 17 hull-loss accidents with a total of 795 fatalities as of July 2010."Quotes from wikipedia. Yeah, you go and fly on those safe Boeings lol~ 1,182 777's As of January 2011, the 777 has been in seven incidents, including one hull loss accident, with no fatalities among the passengers or crew.The only fatality involving the twinjet occurred in a refueling fire at Denver International on September 5, 2001, during which a ground worker sustained fatal burns. ~1,126 A330's As of April 2011, the Airbus A330 has been involved in 13 major incidents, including six confirmed hull loss accidents and two hijackings for a total of 338 fatalities Quotes from wikipedia too. Thought I might add some more info... Thanks
April 13, 201115 yr Author ~ 1,182 777's As of January 2011, the 777 has been in seven incidents, including one hull loss accident, with no fatalities among the passengers or crew.The only fatality involving the twinjet occurred in a refueling fire at Denver International on September 5, 2001, during which a ground worker sustained fatal burns. ~1,126 A330's As of April 2011, the Airbus A330 has been involved in 13 major incidents, including six confirmed hull loss accidents and two hijackings for a total of 338 fatalities Quotes from wikipedia too. Thought I might add some more info... Thanks To add , I find statistics that only reflect number of hull loses vs. quantity produced as the only data presented to be somewhat incomplete. It would be interesting to see how many hours each model variant has flown vs. fatalities/hull loss...Cheers! Buddy Morgan Specs removed by Admin. See AVSIM Signature policy in Hangar Chat
April 13, 201115 yr And here it goes... :rolleyes:From jokes about someone who is afraid of Airbus, AF, all the third world companies and even carsHere goes the non funny war with who can flex their muscles the most...I'm French so of course I love Airbus, but with hear protection, mask, some red wine, and sleeping pills, I don't give a rat *ss, if I flight on A or B.I just like AF over other companies because you can get a 4 classes planes with old business seat, twice luggage weight and checking in business deck for an extra 300$ round trip over eco price.Ben
April 13, 201115 yr Just keep your seatbelt fastened and everything is gonna be alright :D Felipe Andrade at SBSP
April 14, 201115 yr ~6600 737s "As of May 2010, a total of 303 incidents involving 737s had occurred, including 148 hull-loss accidents resulting in a total of 4,097 fatalities."~6900 A320s "For the entire A320 family there have been 17 hull-loss accidents with a total of 795 fatalities as of July 2010."Quotes from wikipedia. Yeah, you go and fly on those safe Boeings lolWell, sure, but of course the first flight of the Airbus A320 was in 1988, whilst the 737's been in the air since 1967 :( When you consider the advancements that have been made in everything from things like weather alerting, radar, and TCAS, to aircraft manufacturing and even seat design, flying in the 1960s and 70s is a world of difference from flying in the 1990s and later in terms of safety :( But - wanna know what plane i'm sorta impressed with now?The CRJ-700 :( Hit by an A380, spun violently 90 degrees, yet stayed in one piece without any serious injuries! Buzz Benz
April 14, 201115 yr I'd say the Boeing 757 and 737NG's are pretty safe, unless you're Southwest's poorly maintained fleet of 737s. Inactive
April 14, 201115 yr I'd say the Boeing 757 and 737NG's are pretty safe, unless you're Southwest's poorly maintained fleet of 737s.Right, because its completely logical that the airline with no passenger fatalities has a poorly maintained fleet? Greg Hetherington
April 14, 201115 yr Why else would the governemnt fine them $7.2 Million a few years back for not complying with safety regulations and service bulletins? And Boeing's 737s a very safely made airplanes, and they don't do much flying over water where bigger airlines have their accidents, I'm sure Sotuhwest would have had some fatalities going into Kai Tak if you ask me. Just because they're planes aren't maintained well, doesn't mean they should have fatalities. Thats liek teh FAA telling the airline training centers that they don't fail enough people because they're too easy on them, without thinking that maybe they have good training... Inactive
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