April 12, 201115 yr I did some testing?The A380 took just under a second to pass the 2.69 Metre Diameter of the CRJ.I Averaged a time of about 0.6 Seconds.Avg. Speed = Distance/Time Taken=2.69m/0.61s=4.40983607m/s 1m/s = 2.23693629 mph.. 4.40983607m/s * 2.23693629 = 9.86452235 Mph1Mph = 0.868976242 knots=8.57203556 Knotsor 9KnotsJust my 2c... It's wrong I know, it looks way faster.Just attempting to apply what I learn in Physics class here at school.
April 12, 201115 yr I did some testing?The A380 took just under a second to pass the 2.69 Metre Diameter of the CRJ.I Averaged a time of about 0.6 Seconds.Avg. Speed = Distance/Time Taken=2.69m/0.61s=4.40983607m/s 1m/s = 2.23693629 mph.. 4.40983607m/s * 2.23693629 = 9.86452235 Mph1Mph = 0.868976242 knots=8.57203556 Knotsor 9KnotsJust my 2c... It's wrong I know, it looks way faster.Just attempting to apply what I learn in Physics class here at school.I redid my math and estimated that a point on the A380 would take 0,4 second to cross the fuselage of the CRJ.Avg. speed = Distance / Time, so...V = 2,7m / 0,4sV = 6,75m/s1m/s = 1,94 knots, so 6,75m/s = 13 knots. I think that 13 knots make more sense. PS.: It's very interesting when we see that we can apply the things we learn at school in everyday situations. There are somethings that when we learn we think: "I'll never use that in my life. Why I have to learn it?" See. That's the reason :(. Edited April 12, 201115 yr by barfra1995 Matheus Mafra
April 12, 201115 yr It Could be :The tower, for bad traffic management.The A380, for speedingThe CRJ for parking like a grandpa on a ford TBenI'm thinking more about a mix of m*rde and put**n with the sentence, "did we just hit a bird ?" :(The A380 guy is going to ge the blame. When you are taxiing a plane you are responsible for making sure you are clear of obstacles around you. Besides it's hard to blame someone else when you run into a stationary object. Tom Landry
April 12, 201115 yr Official NTSB preliminary report************************************************************ NTSB ADVISORY************************************************************ National Transportation Safety BoardWashington, DC 20594 April 12, 2011 ************************************************************ NTSB INVESTIGATING WING CLIPPING INCIDENT AT JFK AIRPORT ************************************************************ The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating a wing tip clipping that occurred between an Airbus A380 (F-HPJD) and a Bombardier CRJ-700 (N641CA) at John F. Kennedy Airport in New York last night. On April 11, 2011 at 8:25 PM EDT, preliminary reports indicate that the left wing tip of Air France flight 7 struck the left horizontal stabilizer of Comair flight 293 while the Comair airplane was taxiing to its gate. There were 485 passengers and 25 crew onboard the Airbus and 52 passengers and 4 crew onboard the CRJ. No injuries were reported on either aircraft. The NTSB has requested the fight recorders (cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder) from both aircraft and will review the content of those devices as part of the investigation. Also, the NTSB will review the air traffic control tapes and ground movement radar data (ASDE-X). The damage sustained to both aircraft is still being assessed. Parties to this investigation include the Federal Aviation Administration, Comair, and the Air Line Pilots Association. Also, accredited representatives from the French Bureau d'Enquetes et d'Analyses (BEA), the Transportation Safety Board of Canada (TSB), and their advisors from Airbus, Air France, and Bombardier Aerospace, are assisting the investigation. The NTSB will release more information as it becomes available. Media Contact: Keith Holloway, 202-314-6100[email protected] Inactive
April 12, 201115 yr I redid my math at estimated that a point on the A380 would take 0,4 second to cross the fuselage of the CRJ.Avg. speed = Distance / Time, so...V = 2,7m / 0,4sV = 6,75m/s1m/s = 1,94 knots, so 6,75m/s = 11,7 knots. I think that 12 knots make more sense. PS.: It's very interesting when we see that we can apply the things we learn at school in everyday situations. There are somethings that when we learn we think: "I'll never use that in my life. Why I have to learn it?" See. That's the reason :(.Hey, thanks, for the corrections!It's very interesting when we see that we can apply the things we learn at school in everyday situations. There are somethings that when we learn we think: "I'll never use that in my life. Why I have to learn it?" See. That's the reason :(.Very true my friend, very true.
April 12, 201115 yr Tough one... the a380 driver may be blamed simply b/c it was his aircraft that made contact with the parked aircraft. However, I'm curious to read an official report that considers why there looks to be one or more vehicles parked at what might have been his target stand. The white pickup truck is moved aside fairly quickly; perhaps that caused the delay in the RJ getting clear of the main taxi route. From an objective standpoint, the "overlap" was only a few feet; 130ft from centerline in the dark with taxi clearance the left tip almost certainly felt clear...Dan D Dan Dominik "I thought you said your dog does not bite.... That's not my dog."
April 13, 201115 yr Looks like someone needs to tweak the afcad of that airport to move the holding point of the crj farther away from the taxiway of the A380. Is that FSDreamteam's KJFK in the video? :( A.J. Domingo
April 13, 201115 yr The A380 guy is going to ge the blame. When you are taxiing a plane you are responsible for making sure you are clear of obstacles around you. Besides it's hard to blame someone else when you run into a stationary object.It seems to me that the A380 pilots did a wrong estimate of the distance of their wing in relation to the CRJ, because only the very wingtip of the superjumbo hit the CRJ. I'm sure he saw the plane parked there (or didn't he?) and thought he could make it without having to deviate a bit more to the right. Matheus Mafra
April 13, 201115 yr Looks like someone needs to tweak the afcad of that airport to move the holding point of the crj farther away from the taxiway of the A380. Is that FSDreamteam's KJFK in the video? :(Funny joke!! Inactive
April 13, 201115 yr Could you just imaging being in that CRJ?? getting spun 90 degrees in a under 2 sec.......sitting there, getting your computer put back in the bag, stretching the arms a little......then WHAM!!!! At-least for those on the CRJ its a really cool story to tell. Tim Steele i5 2500K, Asus P8P67-Deluxe, Windows 7 64 bit, 4 GB Crucial ballistix RAM, Nvidia GeForce 9500GT, Corsair 650W PSU,
April 13, 201115 yr This incident is so ironic for me, because I tweaked my afcad of FSDT's KJFK just a few days ago to allow my AI Air France A380 to park at Terminal 1 gate A5 to match real life ops. While working on the afcad, I was wondering "can an a380 really fit in the cramped space of terminal 1?" I'm thinking that the Air France pilots are in the clear, they were given instruction to taxi on M and had the right of way, but someone from ground control really goofed on where they positioned the CRJ at the express parking spots for the Delta regionals at Terminal 2. A.J. Domingo
April 13, 201115 yr Author Looks like someone needs to tweak the afcad of that airport to move the holding point of the crj farther away from the taxiway of the A380. Is that FSDreamteam's KJFK in the video? :(LOL! Buddy Morgan Specs removed by Admin. See AVSIM Signature policy in Hangar Chat
April 13, 201115 yr Looks like someone needs to tweak the afcad of that airport to move the holding point of the crj farther away from the taxiway of the A380. Is that FSDreamteam's KJFK in the video? :(haha I wish that that was FSX... But unfortunately if it was it would probably look something more like this: Greg Hetherington
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