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Level-D Such a shame

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Have Level-D for FSX since 2007 but started recently flying with it since my new SB system build can handle it and switched to 100% FSXAfter happy years Level-D 767 VA flying in FS9 I encounterd serious problems with the FSX version.Looking in the Level-D forums for solutions gives me another look and feel about the Level-D support and the fact that Level-D was a king in the old FS9 days but since FSX becomes the joker.I have a problem with bounching 767 after filling the FMC and specially the Cost Index. This one is starting the bounch and even while flying the plane goes nuts.Also the SID/STARS went away or only half so using VNAV is also impossible...I saw a very longggggg topic about it started in 2007 and in summer 2009 the moderator answer was, The team is very busy now with the 757 but after that there will be a fix, Case Closed and topic closed.What the heck, It is now 2 years later and there is no progression for solving that annoying bug????? and we have to wait until the 757 is ready....Level-D, scrap me from your fan list and iFly, go ahead with your 737 for FSX very rapidly and I will make the step-over. Already have the FS9 version with lots of pleasure but as I said, I stepped over 100% to FSX now.Happy landings...

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Interesting.Searching the official forum for your posts, you have never posted about the issue you are describing.The "annoying bug" has a solution. Follow SOPs and the bounce will not occur.

The SUPPORT FORUM for Level-D Simulations products: http://www.leveldsim.com/forums

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Interesting.Searching the official forum for your posts, you have never posted about the issue you are describing.The "annoying bug" has a solution. Follow SOPs and the bounce will not occur.
Well, time for a new glasses for you I suppose.... Seems to me that I kicked the holy Level-D churchI expect that you have access to the forums as a member/owner, look at these topic. exacly my problem and I haven't found a clue for it. Be my guest with a solution,5 pages long, started in 2007 and ended in july 2009http://www.leveldsim.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=16203PS: and NO, the beta gauge is not the solution
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This user has now posted in the official forum and I am helping the user with the problem. Odd that he has chosen to post here with such attitude and disrespect in this public forum, yet no such attitude is present in his private forum posting. For the record, the user has not posted previously in the official forum about the issues he has posted here. The thread he references is 5 pages long, and the solution to the problem is given many times in the thread.

The SUPPORT FORUM for Level-D Simulations products: http://www.leveldsim.com/forums

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Hi,Seems as though he found his own solution, as shown below."I found the solution by myself for the bounching issue,The FSX Level-D configuration manager is making the error. Setting on empty and do the loads by yourself is solving the bounching problem.I came to it after reading some replies in this topic that some have no problem at all but using external programs like FSBuild. Still a bit of shame that Level-D support closed that topic in 2009 without any clue or a pinned answer/solution for something that is so simple but killing the experience."I don't suffer from that problem, never did but I glad he got it worked out.

This user has now posted in the official forum and I am helping the user with the problem. Odd that he has chosen to post here with such attitude and disrespect in this public forum, yet no such attitude is present in his private forum posting. For the record, the user has not posted previously in the official forum about the issues he has posted here. The thread he references is 5 pages long, and the solution to the problem is given many times in the thread.

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Hi,Seems as though he found his own solution, as shown below."I found the solution by myself for the bounching issue,The FSX Level-D configuration manager is making the error. Setting on empty and do the loads by yourself is solving the bounching problem.I came to it after reading some replies in this topic that some have no problem at all but using external programs like FSBuild. Still a bit of shame that Level-D support closed that topic in 2009 without any clue or a pinned answer/solution for something that is so simple but killing the experience."I don't suffer from that problem, never did but I glad he got it worked out.
Well, not to enthousiast, it was a placebo, tonight the bouncing plane was back.I will place two screenshots with the half filled SID/STARS and found another strange behavior after testing with saved files,I saved a clean setup at EDDM with the half filled SID/STARS and bounching plane and started again and loaded the saved flight and everything worked normal. Then I made the second screenshot and you can see that the SID data is filled correct so I expected that it was solving the problem with that workaround.Tonight however I wanted to make a VATSIM flight from EDDS to LOWI and made first a clean saved file (same procedure as in EDDM with good result) but now there was the bounching plane again after loading the saved file. (?/!)I decided to start all over again at EDDS, Filled the FMC but leave the Cost Index blank and made a departure on LNAV.After take-off I'll put in the cost index and quess what... The SID and the route filled correctly with the correct data...Whatever I tried, hitting the Cost Index on the ground remains the absolute showstopper...By the way, don't know if it is normal but the data is mixed in lower and upper case.EDIT: Member jwenham (jim) brought the workaround in the regular FSX forum after suffering the same bounch issues.Loading the route first and after that the SID seems to solve the problem, No bounching and correct filled rows.

Hi,I don't see the Upper and Lower case text, unless I'm missing something. I do see Bold and non Bold text. The only difference between the two is that manual entries are displayed in bold type.

Well, not to enthousiast, it was a placebo, tonight the bouncing plane was back.I will place two screenshots with the half filled SID/STARS and found another strange behavior after testing with saved files,I saved a clean setup at EDDM with the half filled SID/STARS and bounching plane and started again and loaded the saved flight and everything worked normal. Then I made the second screenshot and you can see that the SID data is filled correct so I expected that it was solving the problem with that workaround.Tonight however I wanted to make a VATSIM flight from EDDS to LOWI and made first a clean saved file (same procedure as in EDDM with good result) but now there was the bounching plane again after loading the saved file. (?/!)I decided to start all over again at EDDS, Filled the FMC but leave the Cost Index blank and made a departure on LNAV.After take-off I'll put in the cost index and quess what... The SID and the route filled correctly with the correct data...Whatever I tried, hitting the Cost Index on the ground remains the absolute showstopper...By the way, don't know if it is normal but the data is mixed in lower and upper case.

Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings

                Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME                    One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck

Why is this topic on two now, seperate forums? Was it moved by the moderator?

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No, this thread was first. Then, the user posted in the official Level-D forum. Before we had worked through the issue, the user posted the same post to the FSX forum.

The SUPPORT FORUM for Level-D Simulations products: http://www.leveldsim.com/forums

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Simba_nl, what is your FSX configuration? Do you have Acceleration Pack installed ?

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Simba_nl, what is your FSX configuration? Do you have Acceleration Pack installed ?
Thx for your contribution but the problem is already solved due to input from other members in the FSX forum.The bug occurs by filling the FMC with route information by doing the SID first.
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D. Shutt, in his unstinting mission to keep the record straight, wrote "For the record, the user has not posted previously in the official forum about the issues he has posted here." and he is spot on in his observation, except that the poster never said he did. The poster says "Looking in the Level-D forums for solutions" and "I saw a very longggggg topic....." but not "I posted ......".Kick that church!

This holier than thou attitude is really annoying. Lets keep the record straight but sidestep the issue that in 2 years this bug was never resolved. :( There's plenty that does it though, the Leonardo SH group is even worse IMO, they do not even communicate :(

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D. Shutt, in his unstinting mission to keep the record straight, wrote "For the record, the user has not posted previously in the official forum about the issues he has posted here." and he is spot on in his observation, except that the poster never said he did. The poster says "Looking in the Level-D forums for solutions" and "I saw a very longggggg topic....." but not "I posted ......".Kick that church!
Well, Let's kick you out of the church Mister Northridge,You really don't know what you are saying so I belief you are some of the Level-D huggers...Before making such a stupid statements, search and look for the very old (and hidden) topic on the Level-D forums and the very hot discussion recently on AVSIM due to the lack of support.I have placed my problem on the official Level-D forum and only received a English lesson about Bouncing is something different than Bounching.Is that what I have to expect from support people? Ohh, and for your information, You wish was already fulfilled, THEY KICKED ME OUT OF THE (YOUR) CHURCH.Yes, you read it correctly, They banned me from further support or updates. I have paid for both the versions, FS9 and FSX and even have made very good PR for their plane in my movie on YouTube with the KLM763 Boeing 767-300ER EDDS to LOWI flight who becomes one of the best watched flights .However, They denied the bug and blamed for incompetence of the pilot. In fact it was there and still there is and reproduced by many AVSIMMERS. Ok, there is a work around for it but not a solution.If you have doubts about my skills, look and watch the film. I am not a real world 767 pilot but fly for many, many years complex airplanes in the real world.So, Mister Northridge, any thing else?Just my 2 cents....
This holier than thou attitude is really annoying. Lets keep the record straight but sidestep the issue that in 2 years this bug was never resolved. :( There's plenty that does it though, the Leonardo SH group is even worse IMO, they do not even communicate :(
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Hmm. Kicked out.One might wonder why, with such eloquent and polite prose?We can only guess.

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