Ok im off for ESSA full staffing tonight and my question how much fuel on tis trip, ESSA - ENGM 333nm (ESSA SID ARS N623 BEDLA P609 VATEX UP609 TOR UZ35 SKI UM609 RIPAM STAR ENGM )I have my own calculation that i have made, - TOTAL FUEL= APU(min) + Taxi(min) + Reserve(min) + Trip(nm) + Divert(nm) (40kg pr.min. fuel burn average) (nm x 9,4=kg/tons fuel)(cost index CI 70/311kts crz) And my calculation wil then be "APU(60min) + Taxi(20) + Reserve(60) + Trip(333) + Divert(nm dont take it on this trip) = 60+20+60=140minx40kg.pr.min = 5600kg fuel + trip333nm x 9,4= 3130kg fuel,Total 8730kg for this trip. Any draw back/fault in my calculation (and for the record my payload is "fwd cargo 3366kg + aft cargo 3266kg, with 92 people on board)(The above formula is a average calculation inkl. cargo/people) but this could be the drawback if i get a verry full airplane on a trip since this is a avarage formula .......... And what would your calculation be for this trip

I usually use the Generic PMDG 737NG Fuel Planner available on their Download/Misc section!

That seems like an awfully large amount of fuel for a 333NM sector. I'm no real world pilot, nor do I have any sophisicated planning software, but I am currently doing a KATL to KSTL segment and my total fuel load was 13486LB (6,1 T metric) and that's a 487nm flight with the 737-800W, ZFW of 130300LB (59,2T) with about 5600LB (2,5T) total reserve to be left in the tanks at primary destination after no holding. I don't know where I read this, but a RW pilot said that about 5000 - 5500LB (2.25 - 2.5 T) would be a standard amount of fuel to have on board at primary destination after no holding or other slow downs (total reserve). And 60Min for APU burn time seems awful long as well. I usually plan on using ground services and only use APU for about 10-15 minutes per pre-flight. Just my two cents.... Adam

I usually use the Generic PMDG 737NG Fuel Planner available on their Download/Misc section!

I was try to download before,but so far can't download now.

12,000 lbs (5443 kg) is more than enough to get there. It also gives you an hour of hold time if there is a lot of traffic and you have to circle awhile before you can land. Im not as technical as you are with all those figures. I use a very simple forumula and it works well for me every time and usually puts me right on the money or very close. If your flying half weight 6,250 lbs for each hour of flight and add an extra hour for reserve. 1 hour flight plus 1 hour reserve is 12,500 rounded off to the nearest thousand which is 12,000 lbs or 5443 kg If your flying full then 6,600 lbs for each hour of flight and add an extra hour for reserve. This probably wont be to your liking since it appears your like to be very technical about things. Your amount of 8,730 kgs is overkill for that flight and you will probably end up with 2 hours of reserve fuel when you get there. Let me know what you ended up with as I am curious to see how close I came.

8,000 Kg sounds about right to me. I tend to fly 200-400 NM trips and am flying with 15,000-17,000 lbs (I fly in the US, so I also fly with FAR reserve with is 4,300 lbs...more than the 60 minutes you have). About right for your ballpark. Realize though that you're only going to burn about 5,000 lbs (2,300ish Kg). When all is said and done, I should land with my FAR reserve + 45-60 minutes of holding fuel (FAA dicates at least 45 minutes) + divert fuel (often negligble in the grand scheme of things). Eric Szczesniak

Yes, as stated above 8+tons for a mere hop is a true waste. Just recently we were on an 1150NM trip and had 11 tons FOB, and that's like way over three times your distance but not so much more fuel. Took some time to find again but the maestro of the NG's FMC wrote a probably quite useful post about it some time ago.

Hi, I have flown this trip on a few occasions and I usually take 4800kgs - 5000kgs dependent on the forcast upper winds as well as the time of day. I land with 2.5 - 3.0kgs. Norman

Hey Geir-Anders! Here is a real life calculation for that route: TRIP 2.4 (2400 kilograms for the route from Arlanda to Oslo)TAXI 0.2 (200 kilograms for taxi)FRES 1.1 (1100 kilograms for reserve fuel (30 minutes in certain altitude and speed))ALT 0.9 (900 kilograms for alternate airport Rygge) EXTRA 2.6 (2600 kilograms for return flight, so they use tankering method so they don't need to refuel at Oslo - Not required though) RAMP 7.3 (7300 kilograms of fuel at ramp before departure - that should give maximum flight time of 2 hours and 57 minutes)

I land with 2.5 - 3.0kgs.Norman

And did you make it to gate?

I was try to download before,but so far can't download now.

There seems to be something wrong in the URL: 'EXE' should be replaced with 'exe'So here you go! https://s3.amazonaws.com/PMDG_Downloads/file_library/misc/FuelPlanner737NG.exeRegards,

So here you go! https://s3.amazonaws...lanner737NG.exe Thanks!

Hi,Yes I made it with 2.6 first time and then with 2.4 the second occasion

Im not as technical as you are with all those figures. I use a very simple forumula and it works well for me every time and usually puts me right on the money or very close.If your flying half weight 6,250 lbs for each hour of flight and add an extra hour for reserve. 1 hour flight plus 1 hour reserve is 12,500 rounded off to the nearest thousand which is 12,000 lbs or 5443 kgIf your flying full then 6,600 lbs for each hour of flight and add an extra hour for reserve.

Marvellous - I do like broad rules of thumb, and have been looking for one like this, for fuel, for an age. Thanks.

Hi Geir,just wanted to point out the reason your fuel calculation was so high was that you were assuming the cruise fuel flow of 40 kg/min also for apu and taxi fuel. However, the apu consumes only about 2 kg/min, and during taxi, you consume about 10 kg/min. So 60 mins of apu would be 120 kg, and 20 minutes of taxi would be 200 kg.---Martin Boehme