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So i just made a ebay account becuase there is no store within 50 miles of where I live that has any in stock.So now on ebay, Ive come down to 2 or 3 choices.The one that I like the looks of the most, is the saitek x45, with the throttle body seperateand the saitek x52 also looks very nice, but seems very simular to the x45..then there is the microsoft sidewinder 2 joystickand Ive already had the logitec wingman 3d force feedback, which I did not like the way the force feedback felt, as it was really jerky, and not very smoothand then there is all those other ones that I have not mentioned.I am looking for a joystick that I can easily control the basic control surfaces of the aircraft, with rudder control.I would like force feedback, but only if it is smooth like butter, or none at all...So which should I look into getting?

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My Joystick of choice is the Logitek Cyborg Evo Force. I have had it for a few years now, and it does the job perfectly, with its twist rudder, and costs very little...£25-£35).It does the same job as the extremely expensive Flight Yoke and Rudder Pedals!I like Joysticks....Its; "Point and Fly"!...Hug.gif ...!Force-feedback?...I always switch it off completely via the Sim Menu, as its not realistic as real life...and its very annoying!Paul....FS 2004...FS Nav...G-BPLF...Big%20Grin.gif ...!http://www.amazon.co.uk/Saitek-Cyborg-EVO-Joystick-PC/dp/B0000AW9P1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1319544211&sr=8-1

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My Joystick of choice is the Logitek Cyborg Evo Force. I have had it for a few years now, and it does the job perfectly, with its twist rudder, and costs very little...£25-£35).It does the same job as the extremely expensive Flight Yoke and Rudder Pedals!I like Joysticks....Its; "Point and Fly"!...Hug.gif ...!Force-feedback?...I always switch it off completely via the Sim Menu, as its not realistic as real life...and its very annoying!Paul....FS 2004...FS Nav...G-BPLF...Big%20Grin.gif ...!http://www.amazon.co...19544211&sr=8-1
ok well thankyou I will look into that..BTW I just have to ask... are you the fozzer from SimV? you seem rather like him.. :D:D

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ok well thankyou I will look into that..BTW I just have to ask... are you the fozzer from SimV? you seem rather like him.. :D:D
Hello Michael......the one and only....im%20Not%20Worthy.gif ...!Paul.....LOL.gif .....!

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...there you go Michael...It doesn't have to cost the Earth to navigate your way around the skies...Angel.gif ...!Paul...Nerd.gif ...!
haha I never knew anyone with as much online personality as you have Drooling.gifbut thankyou for pointing those out..I was wondering about the saitek X45, and the x52 just because I could get them for cheap -- if im lucky.. (maybe $40)and from what they look like, they look great!Although the other ones there seem pretty cool.. like the thrustmaster..I really like the idea of having a big throttle handle that fits in your hand, and not a lil finger operated one..but it seems as though the X45 and x52 are the best because ya can move the throttle whereever you want it relitive to the stick.. whether your in a fighter, or a jumbo..But ill see how ebay turns outThanks guys! Big%20Grin.gif

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My Joystick of choice is the Logitek Cyborg Evo Force. I have had it for a few years now, and it does the job perfectly, with its twist rudder, and costs very little...£25-£35).It does the same job as the extremely expensive Flight Yoke and Rudder Pedals!I like Joysticks....Its; "Point and Fly"!...Hug.gif ...!Force-feedback?...I always switch it off completely via the Sim Menu, as its not realistic as real life...and its very annoying!Paul....FS 2004...FS Nav...G-BPLF...Big%20Grin.gif ...!http://www.amazon.co...19544211&sr=8-1
I used the same for years till he broke up 2 months ago. Now flying with the F.L.Y. 5.

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I got an X52 Pro. Its kinda plastic, but then again, all the other "toy" joysticks out there are plastic as well. You'd have to pay a lot to get a non plastic stick. It seems fairly accurate and it havent started spiking yet, even after 3 years of heavy usage. I would recommend it over any logitech (I have very bad experience with logitech ... the logi sticks i have owned have always started spiking really early)

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I got an X52 Pro. Its kinda plastic, but then again, all the other "toy" joysticks out there are plastic as well. You'd have to pay a lot to get a non plastic stick. It seems fairly accurate and it havent started spiking yet, even after 3 years of heavy usage. I would recommend it over any logitech (I have very bad experience with logitech ... the logi sticks i have owned have always started spiking really early)
ok cool.. what about rudder controls? is it a twist grip? that is somthing I am very curious now that I have seen it.

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Yeah, it has a twist grip rudder system. Its not very good, but its not worse than any other twisting grip rudder system I've tried either. You'd be better off with dedicated rudder pedals (obviously)

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I've been through 3 or 4 of these cheapie logitech sticks, they weren't too bad up until the last one I bought, the Extreme 3D Pro. I've had 2 of these, the first was like butter and it stayed that way for well over a year before it started spiking and lost it's ability to center. The second one was junk right out of the box. The pots are not affixed properly to the stationary part of the "gimbal", they move, the stick will not center, never has, never will.Recently I thought I'd really splurge and buy a nice stick so I bought a Thrustmaster T.1600M for around $70 bucks. Great stick for about a week, I'm a better person for having experienced hand flying the Turbine Duke with this buttery smooth stick, but within a month it also lost it's ability to center and got twitchy. The handle got loose and floppy, and it had (yes, that's past tense) a stupid bright green light that illuminated whenever you touch the stick, very annoying even when the stick worked right, but when it stopped centering the light would stay on indefinitely. Another case of some bean counter passing off 10 cent pots on us I suppose. I'm ticked off about this one with the $70 stick and all, Thrustmaster can bite me.So... I'm in the market for a stick too. I don't want one of those monstrosities with the remote throttles (HOTAS, I guess it's called), I had a Saitek X45 or whatever it was once and I hated the big ole clunky thing on my desk, I sold it NIB at a local auction. CH flight stick would probably be OK quality-wise but it doesn't have a rudder. What I want is an exact duplicate of the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, only basically rebuildable, with precision CNC machined steel or aluminum, ball bearing supported gimbals, replaceable, high quality pots, and a base that can be filled with lead shot or something so I don't have to hold the damn thing down with one hand while I fly with the other. I'd pay $300 for this stick if someone would just make it. Seriously I would, maybe more if I knew it was the last stick I'd ever buy, does anyone know of someone who makes custom joysticks? It seems there should be some machinist types out there that are also into FS that have or could pull this off?Jim

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I got an X52 Pro. Its kinda plastic, but then again, all the other "toy" joysticks out there are plastic as well. You'd have to pay a lot to get a non plastic stick. It seems fairly accurate and it havent started spiking yet, even after 3 years of heavy usage. I would recommend it over any logitech (I have very bad experience with logitech ... the logi sticks i have owned have always started spiking really early)
Had the same but only for an short ammount of time. After I installed the drivers from the CD some axis didn´t respond anymore although they worked like a charm before. The stick I currently use does its work without a hitch. And I´m able to control left and right engine indeppendently.

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Had the same but only for an short ammount of time. After I installed the drivers from the CD some axis didn´t respond anymore although they worked like a charm before. The stick I currently use does its work without a hitch. And I´m able to control left and right engine indeppendently.
which stick do you use now?

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which stick do you use now?
I´m currently using the Saitek Cyborg X, or, as it´s called in the U.K., Saitek F.L.Y 5.

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I have used, initially, the MS Sidewinder, then up until recently the Saitek X 52 pro. Now I don't wish to be disrespectful to guys who may have these controllers, but after having owned them myself I think I am qualified to offer an opinion... If you want a joystick, then save up or beg or borrow and get a Hotas Warthog, IMO there is no similarity whatsoever to any other joystick on the market. I had considered going from the x52 pro to a yoke, but after having handled the Saitek and the CP products offerings I'm afraid I found them a joke. Plasticky and built to a low price. I would have loved to have got my hands on one of the better offerings from the likes of Elite, but they really are quite out of my range money wise. As for functions on the Warthog, I have more switches and buttons than I actually need! However, unlike some of the cheaper sticks, the Warthog does not have a rudder facility built into the grip and so unless you allocate buttons to the rudder, you will need to invest in a set of rudder pedals. As I said, the Saitek does what it is supposed to do, but to be honest, the Warthog is in a league all of it's own.

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+1 for the Warthog. Best stick I've owned. Previous to that I had a MS Sidewinder. If you go force feedback, get FS Force:http://www.dirks-software.ca/fs-force/download.htmCheers,Noel.

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Good grief!.....Shocked.gif ...!£350!....Worried.gif ...!http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Thrustmaster-Hotas-Warthog-Joystick-and-Throttle-PC-NEW-/300489650163That's equivalent to 3-1/2 hours flying time in my local Club's Cessna 150/152!I think I'll stick to my £35 Saitek Cyborg Evo force, and save the money for my real flights...Whistle.gif ...!Paul....a bit reluctant to spend loadsa money...LOL.gif ...!

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What I want is an exact duplicate of the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, only basically rebuildable, with precision CNC machined steel or aluminum, ball bearing supported gimbals, replaceable, high quality pots, and a base that can be filled with lead shot or something so I don't have to hold the damn thing down with one hand while I fly with the other. I'd pay $300 for this stick if someone would just make it. Seriously I would, maybe more if I knew it was the last stick I'd ever buy, does anyone know of someone who makes custom joysticks? It seems there should be some machinist types out there that are also into FS that have or could pull this off?Jim
Jim,I don't think a creature like that exists! The closest joysticks (material, construction wise) that I've seen are either the Warthog or the Cougar; the high end sticks seem to be modeled after ones in Fighter/ Attack aircraft.I've been through a number of joysticks through the years (Suncom, Thrustmaster FCS, Logitech, Saitek)... the last one I ended up with was the Cyborg Gold USB and it worked great for me until I decided to make the jumpinto a Yoke. I chose the CH Eclipse because of the built in rudder paddles, and I like it a lot; it's smooth, and has more than enough buttons, knobs, etc. for me! tongue.pngAlan :(

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Good grief!.....Shocked.gif ...!£350!....Worried.gif ...!
Nope, £268 from Amazon.co.uk! I like to think that it's a bit like the guy who spends £45 on an office chair when he spends 8 hours a day, 6 days a week at his desk! I mean, ask yourself, how important is it to have a good controller?

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CH Products yoke is good. Probably better out there but for the price it's great . Mark

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Nope, £268 from Amazon.co.uk! I like to think that it's a bit like the guy who spends £45 on an office chair when he spends 8 hours a day, 6 days a week at his desk! I mean, ask yourself, how important is it to have a good controller?
It is important to have a good controller, but forking out almost $700.00 (including rudder pedals) is a pretty hefty chunk of change for gaming hardware... kind of like spending $850.00 for a Herman Miller office chair!Of course, if you have that type of "disposable" income... then by all means go for it!Alan

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Jim,I don't think a creature like that exists!
Hi Alan, I'm afraid you're right. I've spent half the afternoon trying to google something up and haven't had any luck. I was looking at the CH site again though and I see they also make joysticks for I would assume heavy equipment/excavators and stuff too. I'm sure they aren't cheap and I suppose they'd need some type of controller to work with a PC, but they'd need to be high quality stuff for comercial use like that? A twitchy joystick could put an excavator bucket through the cab of a dump truck pretty easily. It looks like they have a 3-axis unit with a bazillion buttons on it, I don't know what you'd do for throttle, maybe one of the buttons could be a slider. Probably way out any reasonable price range for FS anyway, I suppose.I guess I'll just order up a pallet of these logitech Extreme 3D Pro sticks, there should be one amongst them that works properly I'd think :( .Jim

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I've had a few Saiteks, X52 and Cyborgs, and hated them.Currently I have two MS FFs, one of which I've had for about 10 years and the other I got on ebay about a year ago. I run them both with FF turned off. I also have CH pedals on one of my machines.George

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