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Hello,I am thinking of going down the line of some proper watercooling to replace my H60. I have decided to go for one of XSPC's range of kits which save you close to $100 in Australia. I am thinking of going for the RS360 kit but am wondering if it would be worth going for a RX240 instead. If its just a little difference and the RX240 is better, I would go for the RS360 just cos it looks better biggrin.png However, if it is significant, i will choose the RX240. I was also wondering if I need to be buying any coolant or can I just use some water. Secondly, should I be purchasing any addon fans because I have seen no specs for these fans and was wondering if they would be any good. Thanks in advance,

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Yeah, I was joking with the pay for shipping too. Some things just can't be understood in words.Whew.gif Anyone got any suggestions for my WC setup?

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I would do the RS360. I'm pretty sure a thin 360 beats a thick 240, but I could be wrong. Those Rasa kits are very very good - especially for the money. I would stick with the fans it comes with. I think they're yate loons - supposedly fairly decent stuff. Couple other notes...Just use distilled water ($1 at the grocery store) and throw a silver killcoil in the reservoir - that's seriously all there is to it. Don't use dyes or any nonsense like that or your system will gunk up.I would recommend buying some 7/16" hose instead of using the 1/2" hose that comes with the Rasa kit. 7/16" fits tight enough over 1/2" barbs that several people don't even bother putting hose clamps on it. Of course, it never hurts.

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Thanks a lot for that Corey, will take that info. I am thinking of buying a simple $20 Scythe 4 Fan controller as well, I would really love a quiet PC. I think the advantafe of the RX rads is that they dont need as faster fans for the same temps.

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I would recommend buying some 7/16" hose instead of using the 1/2" hose that comes with the Rasa kit. 7/16" fits tight enough over 1/2" barbs that several people don't even bother putting hose clamps on it. Of course, it never hurts.
It says on the specs at PCCG that it comes with 7/16 tubing for the 1/2" barbs. Its confusing with all the ID and OD stuff. And can I ask, please forgive me as I am in no way experienced at WC, what are the silver killcoils?

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I have become a bit disappointed with water cooling. Second time in 2 months I have had to send back my pc as the water pump packed up.

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I have become a bit disappointed with water cooling. Second time in 2 months I have had to send back my pc as the water pump packed up.
That's kind of an open ended statement. Care to share the details? Some of the stuff being installed out there is not up to the same rigid specs as Corsair or Swiftech, for example. If you have had 2 problems in 2 months, I would suspect you might be getting some junk or poor installation.

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I have become a bit disappointed with water cooling. Second time in 2 months I have had to send back my pc as the water pump packed up.
I have seen lots of reviews on this kit which have lead me to it, i have lot's of confidence that it will work. I am just looking for some tips.

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Hi Andrew,If you do go with either of the RASA kits, bear in mind the following:

  • The pump is fairly weak.. It will be fine for the kit setup but if you add a GPU block to the loop and another radiator it will struggle.
  • The tubing that is included in the kit is not great and tends to discolour quite easily. Rather pick up some other tubing such as Primochill. Plus you can get some great colours. 7/16th ID(Inner Diameter) tubing over 1/2 inch barbs creates a much tighter seal which is great as it will further help with preventing any leaks, but it is tricky to get over the barbs.
  • The fans that come with the kit are not brilliant... though depending on how you feel about noise they will work well enough. You could pick up others that will be better in both airflow and sound.
  • The RS radiator is best used with higher RPM fans (more noise) while the RX radiator is best suited for low speed fans (quieter)

Hope that helps

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I use two RX-360s in series, mounted in an external cooling tower. Even with six (low-speed) fans running, it's deadly quiet. My water-cooled GTX580 (overclocked to 1000 MHz) runs at 31 deg C wide open.Don't bother with the special coolant, it's not worth the expense. After a few hours of operation it'll absorb enough contaminants to lose any touted non-conductivity. FWIW, pure water is also nonconductive...Whatever you do, do NOT mix brass and aluminum components anywhere in the same cooling loop, or you'll destroy it with dissimilar metal corrosion. Silver is OK with either.And don't forget to add an anti-microbial chemical to your water--I use Petra's PT Nuke, which is basically just concentrated benzylkonium chloride.

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Hi Andrew,If you do go with either of the RASA kits, bear in mind the following:
  • The pump is fairly weak.. It will be fine for the kit setup but if you add a GPU block to the loop and another radiator it will struggle.
  • The tubing that is included in the kit is not great and tends to discolour quite easily. Rather pick up some other tubing such as Primochill. Plus you can get some great colours. 7/16th ID(Inner Diameter) tubing over 1/2 inch barbs creates a much tighter seal which is great as it will further help with preventing any leaks, but it is tricky to get over the barbs.
  • The fans that come with the kit are not brilliant... though depending on how you feel about noise they will work well enough. You could pick up others that will be better in both airflow and sound.
  • The RS radiator is best used with higher RPM fans (more noise) while the RX radiator is best suited for low speed fans (quieter)

Hope that helps

I wont be adding any GPU blocks for now. I dont think there are any blocks for the DirectCU ii cards anyway.At my local store I only have access to 3/8 and 1/2 ID tubing, would either be suitable? Actually, if its not too much of a hassle, could you take a look at the site below and recommend anything. I will go for the RS360 and maybe have noisier fans because I will end up putting a basic 4 fan controller in it.www.pccasegear.com

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Hi Andrew,Their is an EK block for the 580 Direct CU II though none for your 570.As for tubing, I would say go for the 1/2 inch tubing. Just make sure you have clamps if you use barbs or if you want to spend more you can go with compression fittings.To give you an idea, my loop is as follows:

  • Radiator: Swiftech MCR-320-K (works well with low-medium speed fans)
  • Pump: Swiftech MCP-655 (Variable speed so I can keep the noise down to a minimum)
  • CPU Block: EK HF Cu Plexi
  • Reservoir: Swiftech Micro Res
  • Fans: Yate Loon medium speed led fans (great price to performance ratio) (Best fans would be Gentle Typhoon AP-15's though)
  • Tubing: Primochill 7/16 tubing

I will be adding a Gtx 580 and another radiator to the loop shortly.Hope that helps

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What exactly are the benefits of water cooling? It's just that i5s and i7s can be overclocked to 4.5Ghz and beyond using decent air coolers, and my own overclocked i5 2500k PC (4.4Ghz) is as quiet as a mouse (Thermaltake Frio CPU cooler, and CoolerMaster Storm Enforcer case).

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Well when it heats up here in Australia, which it does, my CPU idle temps can be hovering around 40 degrees. At the moment in Melbourne we have been experiencing some 30 degree + days, so I am not looking forward to when it goes up to 35 degrees because idle temps of 45 degrees are not ok for me.

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Well with water cooling (unless you are using a water chiller or phase change unit) you can't go cooler than the ambient temperature.So at the moment in South Africa the temps are in the 30's during the day so my cpu is idling at 32-35 degrees.

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Yeah, I no. I am more looking to improve the load temps. But if I could get around 32 degrees I would be very happy.

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Well then you're thinking along the right lines... Water cooling will greatly reduce your load temps!

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I have seen mixed reactions all over the place, but will smaller tube diameters actually have any affect on performance?

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I have seen mixed reactions all over the place, but will smaller tube diameters actually have any affect on performance?
As I was buying my watercooling solution the guy in the shop told me there is a minimal difference, that it doesn't pay off to go bigger diameter.

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OK, thanks. At the moment it seems to get the tighter fit I will have to go for 3/8 over the 1/2 barb.

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