X Plane exhibits very realistic engine torque and slipstream effects. All RW single engine GA's have engine torque and slipstream as well (That's the reason for all single engine GA's having their props a little off center when viewed from the front.) To counter this in the real world, you need rudder trim, especially on takeoff. If a GA doesn't have aileron trim in the RW, it would need rudder trim. If the propeller slipstream (which spirals from the front to the rear and hits one side of the vertical tail) is not countered with rudder trim, the aircraft will slowly start to yaw, and with yaw, comes the secondary effect of roll (due to the faster flowing air over one wing.)In the case of the engine torque, this can also cause the aircraft to roll slightly.

Thanks for the explanation, I'm a RW pilot as well and I know how C172 behaves in Straight and Level which needs a little rudder to counter for P-factor and turing tendency, but in my case it's almost 30 degrees to the right if I let the yoke go.Any recommendation to joystick settings to make it less sensitive ? a screen shot would be even better.Thanks again guys.

Usually after trimming, my indicator is about at the ninty degree spot. Every time I make a power change, I have to re-trim a little.

There is definitely something wrong if it's up to 30° bank.I'm happy to skype with you to help get it sorted if you want.

sure, I'd love to.

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Hey everyone, I just bought Carenado F33A BONANZA XPLANE, It's day a night better than the X plane 10 defaults , but one problem I found is the airplane banks to the right or the left sharply when I leave the yoke. Also with the default C172 anytime the flaps are lowered a step bank to the right.I can't trim and leave the yoke in straight and level, this is with standard weather with no wind. I have PFC yoke and pedals. I've tried to play with the joystick sliders but it didn't change that behavior. I have the 3 left sliders all the way to the right for Full stability and 30% for the 3 right sliders on the right and 15% Nullzone.Thanks for any Help.

Has anybody noticed when you pull the throttle to ideal the F33A banks to the right ?

That is an interesting question. Do you mean abruptly pulling the throttle from a cruise setting to idle?. I have to say I never did that in the 11 years I owned the bird-people are very concerned about high performance engines, shock cooling (whether a old wives tale or not-that one is still debated) and stalls/engine outs were even practiced with just low power settings in the low green.My throttle control had a vernier control-and even when coming down to idle on the flare was done in very gradual smooth twisting the control manner.However, if I am understanding your question-if we have all the left turning tendancies of the engine when producing the power, and we pull the power off to idle-which direction should the engine head when those left turning tendancies are removed-especially if suddenly?

That is an interesting question. Do you mean abruptly pulling the throttle from a cruise setting to idle?. I have to say I never did that in the 11 years I owned the bird-people are very concerned about high performance engines, shock cooling (whether a old wives tale or not-that one is still debated) and stalls/engine outs were even practiced with just low power settings in the low green.My throttle control had a vernier control-and even when coming down to idle on the flare was done in very gradual smooth twisting the control manner.However, if I am understanding your question-if we have all the left turning tendancies of the engine when producing the power, and we pull the power off to idle-which direction should the engine head when those left turning tendancies are removed-especially if suddenly?

If I pull the throttle gradualy or abruptly the plane will roll to the right and keep rolling.None of the other planes I have installed roll to the right when I pull the power, so I know its not my joystick setup.I have many hours in a Cessna 172, when you pull the power to idle the nose will drop but It well never roll to the right. Maybe the F33A is designed that way to counter act the left turning tendencies in cruse flight. Thats an awful design if thats the case.

Yeah-I went and tried it in the sim after the post and I am not experiencing this-the nose drops very slightly to the right but I am not getting a roll. I am thinking because of the nice video recording feature of the sim maybe the people having these situations want to take a video and post in the video forum so others can take a look?

Yeah-I went and tried it in the sim after the post and I am not experiencing this-the nose drops very slightly to the right but I am not getting a roll.

Hmmmmm, strange. Thanks !

I thought I was having issues as well, I had the same symptoms as strider, i.e. pulling off throttle and I would dive off to the right. I couldn't trim. As elevator trim made the trim indicator light go on I thought it would for aileron as well but it doesnt. Also on my set up I need to hold down my trim button for a lot onger on aileron than I need to for elevator so I didn't think anything was happening. Once I sorted it out that trim required a lot of button holding it is going well. It was easy to trim it for a very easy hands off final approach from a couple minutes out. Only adjustment needed was to line up so the f33 seems to be ok for me now.

Has anybody noticed when you pull the throttle to ideal the F33A banks to the right ?

I'm getting this effect as well, it's crazy and I don't think this is the way it should be, somebody knows better feel free to correct me.I don't know if we should contact carenado about this ? it might be a bug or a normal behavior.

Can someone post a video of what is happening? I did post a circuit of flying the pattern in it here-perhaps check it out and see if you see signs of what your mention?

To counteract the causes of the left drift, single engine airplanes with clock rotating props as seen from the cockpit will have the engine mount canted to the right, and the vertical stabilizer will be offset, or the rudder will have fixed or inflight adjustable trim tabs. The tab will be set for cruise speeds..........to keep the "ball" in the center, without a foot constantly on the pedal.If the power is pulled back, and the airspeed is high enough, the plane will now want to yaw to the right. This is countered with slight left rudder pedal. I see that the effect of the Carenado F33 varies with airspeed. If the effect is a bit overdone, I can't say for sure, as I'm not flying a real F33 and making it a point to actually test the effect. Note: these effects will differ with different airplanes. Dihedral of the wings, the inter- connecting bungie's, etc. make a difference.And in reality, there are phases of flight like this, that actually has to be tested with the pilot actually thinking about it. The pedal/ yoke forces to overcome this, may be very light. Until this was reported, I didn't even notice it within the sim. Even though I can detect some simulated forces to a degree, I never felt it was a force to overcome with my Saitek pedals or X52 joystick. I just used what ever movements were required to get the plane to where I wanted it. Nothing seemed extraordinarily wrong.L.Adamson